Sell Out.... (56)

Mar 1, 2015 4:28 AM CST Sell Out....
Did you ever 'sell out' for a relationship?...
Friends, Family, Career, Ideals...
Speak your brains....

conversing
Mar 1, 2015 4:40 AM CST Sell Out....
MarsMan
MarsManMarsManBobbing along, Cork Ireland29 Threads 8 Polls 981 Posts
I think if you live long enough you will end up selling out some aspect of your ideals at some stage, especially as our principles change with time, what you thought was important and a priority at 18 when you were single and care free, may be radically different at 38, when you have a partner, 2 kids, a mortgage, and bills to meet.
Mar 1, 2015 5:00 AM CST Sell Out....
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
MarsMan: I think if you live long enough you will end up selling out some aspect of your ideals at some stage, especially as our principles change with time, what you thought was important and a priority at 18 when you were single and care free, may be radically different at 38, when you have a partner, 2 kids, a mortgage, and bills to meet.




Haha mine was the partner,house,two kids by the time I was 23

Was carefree then with responsibility .


I think we sell ourselves out but with life comes experiences,

And to learn not to short change ourselves,

grin .

If we can help it.

uh oh
Mar 1, 2015 5:04 AM CST Sell Out....
annaroach
annaroachannaroachLimerick, Ireland217 Threads 6,747 Posts
About_Blank: Did you ever 'sell out' for a relationship?...
Friends, Family, Career, Ideals...
Speak your brains....


Good Thread, Maybe, but only on myself, if trusting someone counts.
When you think yes here is one that, maybe can be trusted, (men )
Then discover that they can't , that being, in word or deedscold
Mar 1, 2015 5:08 AM CST Sell Out....
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: Haha mine was the partner,house,two kids by the time I was 23

Was carefree then with responsibility .I think we sell ourselves out but with life comes experiences,

And to learn not to short change ourselves,

.

If we can help it.




I think people can come into our lives for a reason.

We can attract people into our lives ,,,say for instance if we abit vunerable or naive and that other person may not be the trusting type and it is down to us to take responsibility for ourselves and see how we deal with it,

If another person is not to our liking or we to them then it's up to ourselves to deal with it,

Some people are very vunerable and naive and may end up victims nuts thats another debate,
Mar 1, 2015 5:13 AM CST Sell Out....
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: I think people can come into our lives for a reason.

We can attract people into our lives ,,,say for instance if we abit vunerable or naive and that other person may not be the trusting type and it is down to us to take responsibility for ourselves and see how we deal with it,

If another person is not to our liking or we to them then it's up to ourselves to deal with it,

Some people are very vunerable and naive and may end up victims nuts thats another debate,




Just to say when we are feeling good and strong in ourselves then we can attract same and if a person is mistrusting we are able to deal with it better in ourselves and our coping strategies are much better than if we were in a vunerable position,

We can only be taken advantage of if we allow it and if another is mistrusting or whatever the undesirable trait is then that is their problem and don't let it become ours,

We as adults responsible for our own actions and not another's,
Mar 1, 2015 5:17 AM CST Sell Out....
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: Just to say when we are feeling good and strong in ourselves then we can attract same and if a person is mistrusting we are able to deal with it better in ourselves and our coping strategies are much better than if we were in a vunerable position,

We can only be taken advantage of if we allow it and if another is mistrusting or whatever the undesirable trait is then that is their problem and don't let it become ours,

We as adults responsible for our own actions and not another's,





Having said that we are only human,


blues
Mar 1, 2015 6:11 AM CST Sell Out....
annaroach
annaroachannaroachLimerick, Ireland217 Threads 6,747 Posts
About_Blank: Did you ever 'sell out' for a relationship?...
Friends, Family, Career, Ideals...
Speak your brains....


Have you ever sold out yourself?grin
Mar 1, 2015 6:41 AM CST Sell Out....
annaroach: Have you ever sold out yourself?


Yes Anna,I have, which is what prompted me to post this as a thread topic...
I think we all have the ability to reflect on our pasts and see the good and bad therein, however, being honest and open with others (and i mean that in an outwardly sense) is what we need to be...
i am a self confessed 'poor mans hedonist', no financial wealth to speak of, but a handful of things that in this later stage of my life make me 'me', and I know I traded it (at to early an age) for a belief that there was something more to life than just my pleasures (we wont stress the obvious of family and friends, which i maintain in my life are a constant delight)....
As a younger man, I thought I could put aside the things that defined me, in fact it only made me resentful, and post marriage break up sent me back to where I was before, and Fast Forward, 20 years, im still here...A bad thing?, well, you could argue that I have not moved on in my life, but I would counter that, I am happy in my life, and while of course (why should i say "of course") I would like to have a close companion, I'll be damned if I'll put aside the very things that make me the person I'm happy to be....
Whoop, Whoop.....Its my life....
...Now where did all that come from....
I blame he scrambled eggs, they told me to say it!....
Mar 1, 2015 7:54 AM CST Sell Out....
annaroach
annaroachannaroachLimerick, Ireland217 Threads 6,747 Posts
About_Blank: Yes Anna,I have, which is what prompted me to post this as a thread topic...
I think we all have the ability to reflect on our pasts and see the good and bad therein, however, being honest and open with others (and i mean that in an outwardly sense) is what we need to be...
i am a self confessed 'poor mans hedonist', no financial wealth to speak of, but a handful of things that in this later stage of my life make me 'me', and I know I traded it (at to early an age) for a belief that there was something more to life than just my pleasures (we wont stress the obvious of family and friends, which i maintain in my life are a constant delight)....
As a younger man, I thought I could put aside the things that defined me, in fact it only made me resentful, and post marriage break up sent me back to where I was before, and Fast Forward, 20 years, im still here...A bad thing?, well, you could argue that I have not moved on in my life, but I would counter that, I am happy in my life, and while of course (why should i say "of course") I would like to have a close companion, I'll be damned if I'll put aside the very things that make me the person I'm happy to be....
Whoop, Whoop.....Its my life....
...Now where did all that come from....
I blame he scrambled eggs, they told me to say it!....





First to thine own self be true, isn't that the saying.
I think you hit the nail on the head there when you said,
("at too early an age"), it is with hindsight (which is pretty useless)
that we know, what we should have done and what makes us really happy.

But from there ,with a lot more experience in life, we can move on to
do the things that make us happy( and why not) and cherishing family at
the same time, so it's a no loose situation. We cannot change our
pasts

It is not a bad thing, if 20 years later you are still doing the thing that you love, on the contrary, you are blessed.
The key there is the open and honest, and i'm sure you will find a close companion ( if that be your desire) if you just be the person you are happy to be, sure that is an attraction in itself.


thumbs up conversing
Mar 1, 2015 8:42 AM CST Sell Out....
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
I think to value our own self worth is not a selfish thing,,

That saying of dont let the past dictate your future is true,,yes I believe our past shapes the way we are today but today we can shape our future,

Maybe mistakes we make are not really mistakes when we not aware we are making them but more of a learning in oneself,

Maybe I should be a Buddha.


laugh
Mar 1, 2015 8:59 AM CST Sell Out....
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: I think to value our own self worth is not a selfish thing,,

That saying of dont let the past dictate your future is true,,yes I believe our past shapes the way we are today but today we can shape our future,

Maybe mistakes we make are not really mistakes when we not aware we are making them but more of a learning in oneself,

Maybe I should be a Buddha.



Maybe the choices we have made in the past and we wonder why we chose what we did are not mistakes at the time or even lessons to learn just our choices and its only in hindsight that we look upon them as lessons to learn as to be more insightful as not to choose same again,
Again personal choice,

Life's has its ups and turns and can be unpredictable so one has to allow for that too,

beer
Mar 1, 2015 1:18 PM CST Sell Out....
Fraya
FrayaFrayaCork, Ireland1 Threads 3,762 Posts
About_Blank: Did you ever 'sell out' for a relationship?...
Friends, Family, Career, Ideals...
Speak your brains....


Sometimes if one does not "sellout", even a little bit, they can be viewed as uncompromising and selfish.
Mar 1, 2015 1:50 PM CST Sell Out....
annaroach
annaroachannaroachLimerick, Ireland217 Threads 6,747 Posts
Fraya: Sometimes if one does not "sellout", even a little bit, they can be viewed as uncompromising and selfish.



If you "sell out" doesn't that mean there is no compromise?confused
Mar 1, 2015 1:52 PM CST Sell Out....
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
All depends what ya selling out on or not whatever the case may be,

conversing
Mar 1, 2015 1:56 PM CST Sell Out....
Fraya
FrayaFrayaCork, Ireland1 Threads 3,762 Posts
annaroach: If you "sell out" doesn't that mean there is no compromise?


My understanding of the thread is being put in a position, for the sake of a romantic relationship, where one has to forego to a degree that which defines the individual. Hence the compromise? Perhaps I am misunderstanding this.
Mar 1, 2015 2:00 PM CST Sell Out....
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
If I was in a romantic relationship and he betrayed my trust on something we had spoke about and agreed on and it was broken there would be no compromise ,

I'd finish it end of,
Mar 1, 2015 2:10 PM CST Sell Out....
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: If I was in a romantic relationship and he betrayed my trust on something we had spoke about and agreed on and it was broken there would be no compromise ,

I'd finish it end of,




If I didnt I would be selling myself short and not valuing myself first,


I did compromise myself years ago when I got into a two year relationship with a man that I stayed with for longer than I should,he got very possessive and was sometimes downright abusive mentally and I compromised till one day I thought hey I deserve better than this for myself,,I finished it and he was sorry sorry and all that crap ,,phoning me,calling to my house,

My mother and sis had to go on telephone and tell him,still he called,,I had a big talk with him one day and said look I need to move on so do you.

He ended up leaving the town and moving to city,

I was wondering after why I didnt finish it earlier as my ex husband had never got abusive or possessive with me and yet I took it from him when he had been drinking,

I guess it was because it was ompnly a year after my marriage breakup that I was in a different state of mind as to know the difference,
Mar 1, 2015 2:15 PM CST Sell Out....
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: If I didnt I would be selling myself short and not valuing myself first,I did compromise myself years ago when I got into a two year relationship with a man that I stayed with for longer than I should,he got very possessive and was sometimes downright abusive mentally and I compromised till one day I thought hey I deserve better than this for myself,,I finished it and he was sorry sorry and all that crap ,,phoning me,calling to my house,

My mother and sis had to go on telephone and tell him,still he called,,I had a big talk with him one day and said look I need to move on so do you.

He ended up leaving the town and moving to city,

I was wondering after why I didnt finish it earlier as my ex husband had never got abusive or possessive with me and yet I took it from him when he had been drinking,

I guess it was because it was ompnly a year after my marriage breakup that I was in a different state of mind as to know the difference,




I would say I have compromised myself with men after my marriage breakup,

I would say myself and my ex compromised each other for a long time to try make things work,

Just we had grown so apart,.
Mar 1, 2015 2:18 PM CST Sell Out....
Fraya
FrayaFrayaCork, Ireland1 Threads 3,762 Posts
peachmelba: If I didnt I would be selling myself short and not valuing myself first,I did compromise myself years ago when I got into a two year relationship with a man that I stayed with for longer than I should,he got very possessive and was sometimes downright abusive mentally and I compromised till one day I thought hey I deserve better than this for myself,,I finished it and he was sorry sorry and all that crap ,,phoning me,calling to my house,

My mother and sis had to go on telephone and tell him,still he called,,I had a big talk with him one day and said look I need to move on so do you.

He ended up leaving the town and moving to city,

I was wondering after why I didnt finish it earlier as my ex husband had never got abusive or possessive with me and yet I took it from him when he had been drinking,

I guess it was because it was ompnly a year after my marriage breakup that I was in a different state of mind as to know the difference,


Compromise has to happen for a relationship to exist, let alone last. Obviously if its an unhealthy one do a runner at first opportunity. For two individuals to exist together harmoniously, compromise has to feature.
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