Immigration for and against (67)
ButinIngatestone, Essex, England UK17 Threads 1,900 Posts...as of late......i.m against it.....the Arabs come to this country....in. Droves..live. Off the state.....make their own rules.............in ten. Years time.......England as we know it...will be lost.........
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We should abandon the idea of moral progress because it’s a sham. The greatest men and women are all dead.
And instead focus on technical progress. If you want a second chance at multiculturalism and liberal capitalism you’ll need to conquer the stars. And if you find aliens eventually you’ll have to do to them what you did to the Sioux.
Liberal global capitalism is based on 19th century America; The immigrants endless expansion across an Indian burial ground, but the concepts of infinite growth and boundless opportunity need that space and in this century the only space to find that space is in outer space.
And instead focus on technical progress. If you want a second chance at multiculturalism and liberal capitalism you’ll need to conquer the stars. And if you find aliens eventually you’ll have to do to them what you did to the Sioux.
Liberal global capitalism is based on 19th century America; The immigrants endless expansion across an Indian burial ground, but the concepts of infinite growth and boundless opportunity need that space and in this century the only space to find that space is in outer space.
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Bogart_1960: pretty much the same for everyone in EU... I bet. !
I wouldn't trade your islands for "cold" .. ever. hope all is well with you
Our winters are mild compared to the North of Europe.I wouldn't trade your islands for "cold" .. ever. hope all is well with you
Rarely snow.in this part of Greece.-
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In a sense both sides are right. The liberals are right to say you're an immigrant and global capitalism was built by Britain and America. It's anglo to be liberal capitalist. Yet the lower classes are quite right to regard themselves in the position of the Sioux. It's no secret that 500 million in the west are to be driven into the ground. Do you wish to sustain American values when you are no longer the opportunistic coloniser but are instead the Sioux? Or will you rebel against western values and tighten the borders?
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I suppose that's the irony. Nationalism is unEnglish and all our children from America to Australia embody boundless independence the idea of belonging everywhere and nowhere. It's in our roots to not value our roots.
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I'm trying to explain why the survival instinct isn't kicking in and the best answer I can give is prosperity. Liberal capitalism and the more open, tolerant world won out but at the price of trust in the people around you. Capitalism is a sensible nerd system that you've always been bribed into by riches to forget that nobody really likes anybody, mass immigration is the completion of that but I doubt that even infinite prosperity could create a completely borderless earth.
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BelladonnaMaria: Look down at the ground. Do the ants mix? Look up at the sky. Do the birds mix?
In my backyard, when I put bread out, yes they do. Big blackbirds, sparrows, and wee waxeyes all pile in together.So perhaps birds weren't the best example?
But in general you make a valid point.
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