Can you handle the truth ? (6)

Nov 2, 2023 10:25 AM CST Can you handle the truth ?
Hann56
Hann56Hann56Clane, Kildare Ireland4 Threads 1 Polls 11 Posts
Can you handle the truth ?


It is God's will that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.

God 1Ti 2:4  Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 


Eph 1:13  In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

The word of truth, the gospel, given to Paul by the Lord Jesus Christ.

1Co 15:1  Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 
1Co 15:2  By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 
1Co 15:3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 
1Co 15:4  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 

The apostle Paul wanted to know from people in Galatia in his letter, he was doubting them, they were turning back to the law.

Gal 4:16  Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? 

People dont see the truth of God in the gospel when the word SIN offends them.

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

So the one who preaches the gospel becomes an enemy to those who are offended.

They cant handle the truth.

We speak the truth in love, we want the same as God's will for them that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.

Some people will never be able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

2Ti 3:7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 

They turn away their ears and turn to fables, commandments of men, ever learning rather than the truth of God which is Christ is us.
Nov 2, 2023 11:04 AM CST Can you handle the truth ?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
It could be claimed there are two forms of truth...Conventional Truth and Ultimate Truth.

Conventional Truth, we can all relate to this....

"Conventional truth involves our everyday experience and understanding of the way the phenomenal world appears and functions. If our senses and cognition are in working order we recognize that fire burns, that dark clouds foreshadow rain and that birds and not elephants fly. Conventional truth is our agreed upon identification of things and how they work, and this understanding directs our worldly activities.

Conventional truth includes what is called valid cognition because it is able to distinguish conventional truth from conventional falsehood, an important difference. For example, there are consequences in distinguishing a snake from a rope and that sense of being right matters. If there was no reliability to our everyday assessments our activity would be senseless. There is a coherence, so that conventional truth cannot be constructed randomly or simply as we choose."

Ultimate Truth....this evades most of us.......

"Conventional truth is truth about phenomena that is inferred through cognition. When conventional truth asserts the emptiness of phenomena it does so conceptually and linguistically, through the abstract construction and analysis of conceptual objects. Ultimate truth is different in this regard. It is the direct, non-conceptual perception of the emptiness of phenomena. It is like realizing that something you were looking for is not there, and right then, directly perceiving the absence of the object. The ultimate truth of emptiness is not mediated by thought at the time of the apprehension. It is not a conceptual realization. There is no reification involved, no subject-object duality present. An absence is objectless, non-deceptive, free from conceptual construction.

When the inherent existence of an object or property is looked for using ultimate analysis, as in the example of fire, it cannot be found. A shift then occurs and the meditator experiences a vacuity, directly perceiving the absence. With practice, as one continues to negate the inherent existence of all kinds of objects, as well as processes such as motion and cause and effect, emptiness becomes global. The illusion of inherent existence is dispelled. When one is no longer ruled by the attraction and aversion that accompanies the reification of phenomena, equanimity is finally possible.

When inherent existence is globally negated through ultimate analysis, conventional images do not then disappear, but no longer deceive. There is no need to withdraw from objects, for they are directly and immediately recognized as illusory-like. In order to experience the direct, non-deceptive force of emptiness, the liberating role of ultimate truth is required.

The direct perception of emptiness depends upon conventionally designated phenomena to discover that they are empty. Conventional truth provides the conceptual force necessary to subsequently perceive the ultimate emptiness of phenomena. Ultimate truth is not more than phenomenal emptiness. If ultimate truth was the entire truth, then nothing could be said to exist at all, as all there would be was an absence, a negation. This would take us to the affliction of nihilism. That is why it is so important to identify the object of negation to be only the inherent existence of phenomena, not their conventional existence, and to recognize ultimate truth as only that absence. Liberation requires a well-reasoned path."

“Since objects do not exist through their own nature, they are established as existing through the force of convention.”
–Je Tsongkhapa

Nov 2, 2023 4:04 PM CST Can you handle the truth ?
Is this the sequel to A Few Good Men?
Nov 2, 2023 6:39 PM CST Can you handle the truth ?
this queastion...........should be asked to all M.P,s.....around the world........because the man on the streets......where ever you live are fed up with all the B/S that is fed to us.....................mumbling thumbs up
Nov 2, 2023 6:43 PM CST Can you handle the truth ?
Stringy_Bob
Stringy_BobStringy_BobNeepsntatties, Grampian, Scotland UK17 Threads 3 Polls 586 Posts
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Nov 8, 2023 10:44 PM CST Can you handle the truth ?
OddTraveller
OddTravellerOddTravellerMontgomery, Alabama USA19 Threads 200 Posts
That is a horrible movie for demonstrating how the U.S. military legal system works. Not even close. Good acting though!
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