A den or Fun or Hypocrisy? (16)
Hey Jane...good thread!!
Gawd knows i have tried to get people to really say what they are thinking rather than go with the norm....and truly i respect others opinions...
I thought that was what "forums" were all about...to "debate" a topic...to give personal views about a subject without it becoming a personal attack...and believe me after a year on here i usually come into the forums with "full body armour"...
Sure it gets heated sometimes...but that just adds to it...but the "personal attacks" i don't agree with...but would still be willing to chance that to be able to get my point across...
Controversial subjects are just that "controversial"...it does not make anyone right or wrong...
Gawd knows i have tried to get people to really say what they are thinking rather than go with the norm....and truly i respect others opinions...
I thought that was what "forums" were all about...to "debate" a topic...to give personal views about a subject without it becoming a personal attack...and believe me after a year on here i usually come into the forums with "full body armour"...
Sure it gets heated sometimes...but that just adds to it...but the "personal attacks" i don't agree with...but would still be willing to chance that to be able to get my point across...
Controversial subjects are just that "controversial"...it does not make anyone right or wrong...
And by the way...i didn't mean to imply that people don't speak their minds here...but rather i find they "avoid" the topic if its one sure to cause people to choose sides....
I agree wikked. Not speaking about any particular thread or person. To hear if others have an opinion or thought on the topic in general. Yes, it gets heated in here, with so many differences of opinions, cultures and upbringings but thats what makes it a great place.
What doesn't make it great is when people send really ignorant emails to others, name call and sht like that, towards people they don't even know. Does someone have the right to insult and name call someone for not being interested in them, when they replied to the initial flower/email saying thanks but no thank you (at least acknowledging you got it, being polite)? Because you are not interested in someone, and politely tell them, does that give them the right to say and do ignorant stuff? Does anyone have the right to tell another not to post what they have to say versus a select few who can post whatever they want?
What doesn't make it great is when people send really ignorant emails to others, name call and sht like that, towards people they don't even know. Does someone have the right to insult and name call someone for not being interested in them, when they replied to the initial flower/email saying thanks but no thank you (at least acknowledging you got it, being polite)? Because you are not interested in someone, and politely tell them, does that give them the right to say and do ignorant stuff? Does anyone have the right to tell another not to post what they have to say versus a select few who can post whatever they want?
I see that the Int'l has a thread up pretty much expressing somewhat these same thoughts wikked. So, it's not only in Canada that we ask, why oh why..... think thats the thread name.
This isn't one of those fence-riding topics, I don't feel. Canada isn't Switzerland either, last I checked.. so no true neutrality in that respect. It's easy for human nature and the human mind to 'ignore' or 'tune-out' what one doesn't want to hear. Fact of the matter is that it doesn't fix the issue in any form, it's like an alcoholic that drinks to 'forget'.. it's temporary, and will again manifest itself in one or more fashions until a pro-active position is taken, and acted upon.
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I like that...."a glass full of misunderstanding". Good descriptive for a lot of what is said. Especially when done in fun and one twists it and makes it not so fun. I still don't understand how people complain someone didn't answer their email or reply to a flower, yet when you do and you're not interested, they flip out. Can't win for losing.
The world wide web site, hence they call it the w.w.w. and people from all over the world are in here and bring many different opinions and views and takes on what is said. An example would be, something we say commonly here in Canada, and in fun, is taken as an insult or ignorance elsewhere. It can flip the other way also. Something commonly used and funny at the other side of the globe is an outright insult here.
The world wide web site, hence they call it the w.w.w. and people from all over the world are in here and bring many different opinions and views and takes on what is said. An example would be, something we say commonly here in Canada, and in fun, is taken as an insult or ignorance elsewhere. It can flip the other way also. Something commonly used and funny at the other side of the globe is an outright insult here.
Thanks for posting in Canadians Prof. and Happy B'day. Are ya legal yet?
Are you saying that it is not a random, one of, and that people who do that will continue to do that, over and over? When you say pro-active, do you mean speaking up, expressing yourself, or, defending yourself? To me, they are all different. I would really question why one would have to defend themselves, on a dating site no less, from insults, names, ignorant emails and the like, from total strangers only because of their pic, profile or an opinion they post that another doesn't agree with. I guess it's hard to keep in the spirit of fun, when things get heated and human nature being what it is....
Are you saying that it is not a random, one of, and that people who do that will continue to do that, over and over? When you say pro-active, do you mean speaking up, expressing yourself, or, defending yourself? To me, they are all different. I would really question why one would have to defend themselves, on a dating site no less, from insults, names, ignorant emails and the like, from total strangers only because of their pic, profile or an opinion they post that another doesn't agree with. I guess it's hard to keep in the spirit of fun, when things get heated and human nature being what it is....
What people sometimes miss in here (myself included at times) is that this is an opportunity to perhaps make someone see a topic from their point of view...but it can't be done when you are mud slinging...
I don't pretend to have all the answers to life...and you're right Jane when you say this is a world wide web...how awesome is it to get advice or view a subject through the eyes of someone who lives perhaps half way around the world from us...
I will never be to old to stop learning...and i welcome the insight of everyone...
I don't pretend to have all the answers to life...and you're right Jane when you say this is a world wide web...how awesome is it to get advice or view a subject through the eyes of someone who lives perhaps half way around the world from us...
I will never be to old to stop learning...and i welcome the insight of everyone...
Very true wikked, very true. No one has all the answers. If we did, then Google would be unemployed and we wouldn't be asking questions all the time.
I agree with you.
I have no problems with anyone who share a different opinion than me just as long as they respect my opinions just like I respect theirs.
What I do not tolerate and what peeves me is those who have to personaly attack someone because of their different views and opinions yet if that person being attacked defends themselves the others will have a beyotch fest about it. Like as if its okay for them to speak their minds but not for us.
If everyone had to agree all the time this world would be boring if you ask me!
I have no problems with anyone who share a different opinion than me just as long as they respect my opinions just like I respect theirs.
What I do not tolerate and what peeves me is those who have to personaly attack someone because of their different views and opinions yet if that person being attacked defends themselves the others will have a beyotch fest about it. Like as if its okay for them to speak their minds but not for us.
If everyone had to agree all the time this world would be boring if you ask me!
This is what I have been saying and I agree with what people are posting as responses..... Just don't understand why I guess. Why do people feel the need to treat another in such a manner, especially when they don't even know a person, or anything in realtion to who and what they are as a human being.
I don't think anyone knows the answers to that but the person who is guilty himself/herself.
Unfortunatly for some its because they have self confidence/esteem issues and feel the need to attack others in order to make themselves feel better.
Either way its disrespectful and I won't have any of it.
Unfortunatly for some its because they have self confidence/esteem issues and feel the need to attack others in order to make themselves feel better.
Either way its disrespectful and I won't have any of it.
Yep...sad but true. I peeked at wikked's thread in international and some of the stuff is unreal. Most of it, just because of her pic. Is like feeding time in the zoo sometimes. Will probably take a degree to figure that out, maybe that's just human nature and that's it.
LOL...it has always been that way for me Jane...and not only here on the forums...I will say though that when most people get to know me..they either like me or they don't...which is just fine by me...
People have a right to their opinion, and sometimes they are very "passionate" about what they believe...and so they should be, however, they fail to understand that they way to bring someone around to seeing it from their point of view...or perhaps even changing someone's view...is not by attacking or by mud slinging, but by stating the facts about what they believe....
Its like i said before lots of people are willing to jump on a bandwagon over a theory that sounds good...yet they have no idea WHY they believe it...it just sounds good and thats all they know!
Questioning them allows them the opportunity to question it themselves and see if they truly believe what they are saying...yet they see it as an attack and behave as such...
I have changed my views on lots of things based on the solid arguments of people on here and in my day to day life....i am not opposed to that..its how i learn and grow...
BTW...I have had several messages of "apology" from some folks on the international site...I guess in hindsight they saw that they were being petty about a question genuinely posed...and the fact that regardless of what...I very seldom "mud sling" but i will say what i have to...in a polite way of course...
People have a right to their opinion, and sometimes they are very "passionate" about what they believe...and so they should be, however, they fail to understand that they way to bring someone around to seeing it from their point of view...or perhaps even changing someone's view...is not by attacking or by mud slinging, but by stating the facts about what they believe....
Its like i said before lots of people are willing to jump on a bandwagon over a theory that sounds good...yet they have no idea WHY they believe it...it just sounds good and thats all they know!
Questioning them allows them the opportunity to question it themselves and see if they truly believe what they are saying...yet they see it as an attack and behave as such...
I have changed my views on lots of things based on the solid arguments of people on here and in my day to day life....i am not opposed to that..its how i learn and grow...
BTW...I have had several messages of "apology" from some folks on the international site...I guess in hindsight they saw that they were being petty about a question genuinely posed...and the fact that regardless of what...I very seldom "mud sling" but i will say what i have to...in a polite way of course...
LOL, you've been doing this for a while haven't ya? Saw your posts on the other side. An example for all to learn. Being new to this and here, I can appreciate the value of that and continue to learn daily as well. Glad to hear you got apologies and they realized after the fact, that you posted a good question, not about yourself, but themselves.
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