"The Outsider" (46)
servantesAscona, Ticino Switzerland3 Threads 62 PostsI am reading a book at the moment called "The Outsider" by Colind Wilson and i found a lot of myself in it. The book is about various known people who have been in a way "outsiders" whether they are artists, writers, painters,...different. They are the outsiders in a way that they do not belong to the "mainstream" current and most of them endede up tragically because theyn could not reconcile their inner energies with the demands of their mainstream cultural norms and expectations. I am wandering how many outsiders are outthere? I am certainly one of them and I do wish to find the way out and get "in" or get that "in" out...anyway its all about the people who do not follow the trends but have a deeper insight into life so...let's talk about it....
Servantes !! welcome to the forums...
i am happy to be the first to welcome you here...i should warn you it can be addicting and keep your humour!!
salut !
alex
i am happy to be the first to welcome you here...i should warn you it can be addicting and keep your humour!!
salut !
alex
There are so many addicting things Alex...thank's for welcoming me! I will be cautious..and I will try to keep cheerful although it is hard for the outsider...thats why they are outside I guess.
Its easy mate...all you have to do is try to fit out...but its not fun at all, so better stay in...or if you wanna get out you are in the right place..
Hello Servantes,
my welcome present for the non mainstream:
are you Swiss Italien then you can read also spanish right ?
Se cree, que en un lugar cerca del suyo había una moza labradora de muy buen parecer, de quien él un tiempo anduvo enamorado, aunque, según se entiende, ella jamás lo supo ni le dio cata dello. Llamábase Aldonza Lorenzo, y a esta le pareció ser bien darle título de señora de sus pensamientos; y, buscándole nombre que no desdijese mucho del suyo y que tirase y se encaminase al de princesa y gran señora, vino a llamarla «Dulcinea del Toboso» porque era natural del Toboso: nombre, a su parecer, músico y peregrino y significativo, como todos los demás que a él y a sus cosas había puesto"
my welcome present for the non mainstream:
are you Swiss Italien then you can read also spanish right ?
Se cree, que en un lugar cerca del suyo había una moza labradora de muy buen parecer, de quien él un tiempo anduvo enamorado, aunque, según se entiende, ella jamás lo supo ni le dio cata dello. Llamábase Aldonza Lorenzo, y a esta le pareció ser bien darle título de señora de sus pensamientos; y, buscándole nombre que no desdijese mucho del suyo y que tirase y se encaminase al de princesa y gran señora, vino a llamarla «Dulcinea del Toboso» porque era natural del Toboso: nombre, a su parecer, músico y peregrino y significativo, como todos los demás que a él y a sus cosas había puesto"
Hola highfidelity,
Yo no soy de aqui pero si puedo hablar castellano un poco. Se parece de tu historia triste que el hobbre es un forastero, por la donna que la llamaba. Eso es muy comun con los forasteros...el amor triste que da tanta dolor a el alma..
Yo no soy de aqui pero si puedo hablar castellano un poco. Se parece de tu historia triste que el hobbre es un forastero, por la donna que la llamaba. Eso es muy comun con los forasteros...el amor triste que da tanta dolor a el alma..
Maybe we are all outsiders...here in CS? Thats why we are here..lol!
Its not fun because the Outsiders are torchured souls. They become outsiders against their will and have maybe deeper insights into life. They can't really be part of the "mainstream" but they reach the point when everything becomes meaningless-they find themselves merely existing. Its not fun to be in that state of being or more precisely non-being as Sartre would put it.
Look at it from another way.
Would you join the mainstream? The flow of prevalent thought irrespective of what it really is? Do you really feel the need to be a part of society?
Sometimes it's good to be on the outside looking in rather than being locked in.
Would you join the mainstream? The flow of prevalent thought irrespective of what it really is? Do you really feel the need to be a part of society?
Sometimes it's good to be on the outside looking in rather than being locked in.
I like this one better ...
If you are lonely when you're alone, you are in bad company.
Jean-Paul Sartre
If you are lonely when you're alone, you are in bad company.
Jean-Paul Sartre
In a way yes I would like to be part of the mainstream but that's impossible. being an anthropologist and migrating from country to country I have always been an Outsider. Sometimes I envy those people who live from today to tomorrow have their family BBQ-s, circle of friends, kids and what not. But again, no thanks I prefer to be outside but I have to find the meaning again. This book really opened my eyes to my current condition (at least I can put the finger on it and see that its happening to others too.
why you are complaining then .. write a book too - make the experience worthwile - enjoy what you are doing - mingle with people you can relate to - have friends who are different does not mean you differ - and last not least - dont take everything so seriouse
much less yourself 
Do you think I am not trying (or am I?) or would not like that...but we are talking here about the existentialist crisis and when crisis is in question it is a crisis and that means its not just to do things..because part of the crisis is not doing them..as far as book..that's exactly why I am in Switzerland at the moment.
Hello there!! Why are you living a complicated life? Why dont you keep it simple? I'm sure you will find the right track where you want to belong. Welcome friend & think positive. Dont forget life is too short. 
cheers
cheersThank you that is exactly what I want...to find the right track. At the moment I am like a person lost in a Sahara blizzard. I am not sure where I belong any more..its kinda like a major identity crisis. I would like to keep it simple but HOW????
well in my opinion you must choose a country where you can earn a living & start a social life. I think your time as a wanderer is over.
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