Happy Holidays OR Merry Christmas? Why must we choose? (27)
DrkeyedbeautyToledo, Ohio USA7 Threads 336 PostsI went to see Larry the Cable guy recently and he was all ticked off that we have to say "Happy Holidays" now so we don't offend anyone instead of saying "Merry Christmas". I guess I'm living in a cave cuz I didn't know it was a problem until then and now that's all I'm hearing. Who are we offending all of a sudden and why? I say both but mostly I wish everyone a Merry Christmas. How does everyone else feel? This is from me and Larry... Merry Christmas everyone!!
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i say happy holidays
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I was raised in a devout Southern Baptist family, so I can see why "Happy Holidays" would be offensive to some. Personally, I'm pagan, but for the sake of my children, I celebrate Christmas, so whether I say "Happy Holidays" or "Merry Christmas" really depends on who I'm talking to at the time. When speaking to my Christian relatives and friends, it's "Merry Christmas", but when speaking to friends of other religions, such as pagan or jewish, I say "Happy Holidays". A lot of people don't stop to think that not everyone celebrates Christmas. Basically, I think it's one of those "politically correct" type things. So yeah, it depends on who you're talking to.
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Saying Happy Holidays is considered being "politically correct" by those who wish to be :with it" It does not offend anyone but the Christians and they do not matter, after all the majority of the US-Canadian populations are mostly Christian people of different sects and those who want, need to remove any link to Christ from any Christian Holiday, have the right to do so...in a secular State, God, let alone Christ by name especially, has no legal right to anything sanctioned by the State.The Old Testament of "Yaweh" is ok to ve around in various representations, but the name is not to be mentioned in public either.As most Christians, whether of any Protestant or Catholic denomination is insulted by this and the taking of Christ out of any function or heritage, or customs is termed as "progressive" and even "patriotic",is irrelevent. Christians do not matter; the heritage and teachings of Christ do not matter,( when was the last time any President of the US evern uttered the name of Christ in public or swore an oath to anything other than some nameless, vague "God"? Never, and you never will.)Minorities here have the right to impose their wishes and customs upon the majority...the full meaning of "democracy": mob-rule, which is always a minority. Now the language of many pronouncements and court decisions regarding "religious issues" are using terminology and concepts that are clearly implying that if a person(Christian) objects to the illimination, banning, suspending, outlawing and actually erradicating anything to do with Christ from any and all phases of life in your country, you are"unpatriotic" and, of course, we all know that is ohhh sooo politically incorrect...and we don't ever want to be that do we....why, what will our neighbors think! Heavens to Murgatroid!!I put a lot of this in "tongue-in-cheek" style, hopefully the irony will be recognized as such as well as the "general" as opposed to the individual; certainly in no way regarding anyone here as many of you have over time have written your strong objections to this "de-Christianizing" of Christmas with which I fully agree with; just thought I'd put a little "twist" on it.
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if they do not want to have christ in the christain holiday then they should not be celibrating the holiday to begin with
why would a jewish, hindu, muslum, or athiest person want to celibrate christmas to begin with
and if the govt wants to keep religion out of govt why is christmas and thanksgiving a national holiday does that not mean that important days of other religions should be national holidays as well
the only reason that (christ)mas is such a big deal is the money aspect of the whole thing if you make everyone forge it is a (christ)ian holiday maybe those of other religionswill sircome to child pressure and buy GIFTS if they have not already
if they want to be politically corect then if ya aint (christ)ian don't participate in (christ)mas
just another bunch of hypacritical nonsense
but what do i know
why would a jewish, hindu, muslum, or athiest person want to celibrate christmas to begin with
and if the govt wants to keep religion out of govt why is christmas and thanksgiving a national holiday does that not mean that important days of other religions should be national holidays as well
the only reason that (christ)mas is such a big deal is the money aspect of the whole thing if you make everyone forge it is a (christ)ian holiday maybe those of other religionswill sircome to child pressure and buy GIFTS if they have not already
if they want to be politically corect then if ya aint (christ)ian don't participate in (christ)mas
just another bunch of hypacritical nonsense
but what do i know
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bah humbug
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lol...next time anyone is in Wash. DC, take a tour of the US Supreme Court especially, and gaze upon all the religious murals, carvings and paintings everywhere! including in the Judge's chambers and especially where the verdicts are handed down.....
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you can say that again tech... ect...
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bah humbug
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maybe those of differnt faith should go back to the holiday that the organized christian religion stole to help convert others to thier religion
The following is a quote from the 2000 Encyclopædia Britannica, Volume 11 ; page 390.
"During the later periods of Roman history, sun worship gained in importance and ultimately led to what has been called a 'solar monotheism.' Nearly all the gods of the period were possessed of Solar qualities, and both Christ and Mithra acquired the traits of solar deities. The feast of Sol and Victus (open unconquered Sun) on December 25th was celebrated with great joy, and eventually this date was taken over by the Christians as Christmas, the birthday of Christ."
but what do i know
The following is a quote from the 2000 Encyclopædia Britannica, Volume 11 ; page 390.
"During the later periods of Roman history, sun worship gained in importance and ultimately led to what has been called a 'solar monotheism.' Nearly all the gods of the period were possessed of Solar qualities, and both Christ and Mithra acquired the traits of solar deities. The feast of Sol and Victus (open unconquered Sun) on December 25th was celebrated with great joy, and eventually this date was taken over by the Christians as Christmas, the birthday of Christ."
but what do i know
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We don't need to choose on a personal level. Just say whatever you wish to communicate. It's a free world.
However, if you're actually working for, and representing, a company and dealing with customers of whom you know nothing about then, as a representative of that company, you should say "Happy Holidays" if you are going to say anything at all.
After all, wishing someone a Merry Christmas who doesn't celebrate Christmas is being quite presumptuous. It can also be offensive to someone who doesn’t celebrate Christmas.
I can't imagine anyone being offended by "Happy Holidays" because there are many different holidays this time of year anyway so it covers everything.
So I agree that when it comes to businesses employees should say "Happy Holidays", when representing a company. When they get off work they can say whatever they want because then they are no longer representing the company.
However, for the most part I'm with TechnicalEcstasy;
Bah humbug!
Although if I had a partner I might feel differently. ;o)
However, if you're actually working for, and representing, a company and dealing with customers of whom you know nothing about then, as a representative of that company, you should say "Happy Holidays" if you are going to say anything at all.
After all, wishing someone a Merry Christmas who doesn't celebrate Christmas is being quite presumptuous. It can also be offensive to someone who doesn’t celebrate Christmas.
I can't imagine anyone being offended by "Happy Holidays" because there are many different holidays this time of year anyway so it covers everything.
So I agree that when it comes to businesses employees should say "Happy Holidays", when representing a company. When they get off work they can say whatever they want because then they are no longer representing the company.
However, for the most part I'm with TechnicalEcstasy;
Bah humbug!
Although if I had a partner I might feel differently. ;o)
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There is no must to choose.
Everyone is adult enough, to act in his opinion. As long as he-she-it is not related to bound´s that seem to be nessesary. These bounds are simulated.
So what the..., keeps you up?
On christmas I will hang out somewhere, downtown having some drinks, let´s see, ( the unexpected is always the most fun, isn´t it? ).
Everyone is adult enough, to act in his opinion. As long as he-she-it is not related to bound´s that seem to be nessesary. These bounds are simulated.
So what the..., keeps you up?
On christmas I will hang out somewhere, downtown having some drinks, let´s see, ( the unexpected is always the most fun, isn´t it? ).
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I tend, for myself, to agree with Tech and try to pass it all off with the "Bah, Humbug" altitude...it's a time when far too many old memories come-a-haunting and with 2 kids I can't afford to crawl into a dumpster with several nice bottles of my favourite entertaiment and close the lid til this "happy holiday season" is over with...bah!
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Good post, i surely agree
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It is the birthday of our Lord, Jesus Christ. If it doesn't have his name in it, then we are changing the holiday into something it isn't. If you don't like selabrating what it is, then why selabrate it. The jews have holidays that they selabrate, that doesn't meen I have to. I don't selabrate halloween. It doesn't stop it from coming. So, why should others touch CHRISTmas? We Christians don't try to stop, or change halloween. We just don't selabrate it. So, why should the non-Christians touch our holaday. Just don't selabrate it, like we don't selabrate your holaday. Well, some of us don't. But it shouldn't be changed because some of you can't handle hearing Jesus' name in it, CHRIST. It was made for Him not santa. So you have your own choice to make it about who you want it to be. But believe me, we will hold his name on high, and no one will stop that, Jesus Christ. God bless.
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well if you do the research the astronmical position of the star that lead the wise men to bethleham acctually points to it being sometime around july
but to convert many that did not want to lose one of their large celabrations they made the celabration dec 25
and as pointed out in other postings there are many other holidays of other faiths near this date as well
but what do i know
The following is a quote from the 2000 Encyclopædia Britannica, Volume 11 ; page 390.
"During the later periods of Roman history, sun worship gained in importance and ultimately led to what has been called a 'solar monotheism.' Nearly all the gods of the period were possessed of Solar qualities, and both Christ and Mithra acquired the traits of solar deities. The feast of Sol and Victus (open unconquered Sun) on December 25th was celebrated with great joy, and eventually this date was taken over by the Christians as Christmas, the birthday of Christ.
but to convert many that did not want to lose one of their large celabrations they made the celabration dec 25
and as pointed out in other postings there are many other holidays of other faiths near this date as well
but what do i know
The following is a quote from the 2000 Encyclopædia Britannica, Volume 11 ; page 390.
"During the later periods of Roman history, sun worship gained in importance and ultimately led to what has been called a 'solar monotheism.' Nearly all the gods of the period were possessed of Solar qualities, and both Christ and Mithra acquired the traits of solar deities. The feast of Sol and Victus (open unconquered Sun) on December 25th was celebrated with great joy, and eventually this date was taken over by the Christians as Christmas, the birthday of Christ.
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From my stand point, I always assumed the happy holidays greeting was to lump Christmas and New Years together. But now I see on the new that evangelists are going crazy over that slogan. I'm sorry if I offend anyone by saying this..but evangelists seem a little crazy to me. =X
Allen
Allen
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no one should be offended reguardless of how you say it if they are then it is their lack of understanding that reguardless of how you say it you are wishing them good tiding of great joy (just had to put it that way)
so to all out there
merry holidays and may your god, God, or non god be with you throughout the coming year
hehehehehe
so to all out there
merry holidays and may your god, God, or non god be with you throughout the coming year
hehehehehe
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Seasons Greetings,winter,spring,summer or fall.
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I think that you're right that we should say "Merry Christma" rather than "Happy Holidays". It's Jesus's birthday. Even for you non believers, if Jesus never exsisted than there would be no Christmas. We should not really just be thinking about the holidays, we should be thinking about Jesus, not ourselves, and what we get out of Jesus's birthday. We should even use our holidays to give thanks to Jesus, and give him our utmost attention. After all there are no materials in this world that we could give to him, that would make him satisfied. What would make him satisfied, and the best christmas present you could give to Jesus is you, and your full attention. God Bless, and Merry Christmas!!!
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