It's of interest to me how Christians can state we have "freedom of choice", and yet can read from their very bible of God's 'hardening (taking away free will) of the pharoh's heart' - that god is all powerful and all knowing (transgressing both time and space) - and yet he is powerless to make us do only good (except in the face of certain examples such as that of the pharoh).
BTW, who created the evil in this world? If not god, then whom? If god created Everything, then god created your satan - hence, god created evil. Should he choose not to eradicate it, then is he actually good? If he is good and can't erase it, doesn't that render him powerless to an extent?
I agree that experience is key, but that has nothing at all to do with a god, that's just simple nature.
I guess my frustrations lie with not understanding how anyone can live life having faith in biblical contradictions and yet question nothing.
I usually try to refrain from posting in the religion threads, but can't help but follow up brilliance from Anarqi.
Was that post about God or Bush? lol
Yes, I question everything. Change my mind hourly regarding religion.
My useless thought for the day...constant source of amusement that the "people of God" that post here are usually the first to spit venom when questioned. Odd. Never seems very Holy.
I know. The word Christian means Christlike and I don't feel that way all the time. It also makes me wonder what will be left for the meek to inherit. It is a pleasure to chat with you as always. I bet you could charm the warts off a frog, lol.
I could charm a ton of warts off a frog with the right laser configuration (and with a frog that could hold a ton of warts). Unfortunately for the frogs of this world, I have no such laser, nor am I in the least bit interested in torching warts for the remainder of my days.
Yeah, Roy, I'm not much into charming, obviously, but good chatting with you as well. Peace.
ok i jsut had to come in here Anargi you could charm me anyday although i have no warts (hehehe)
as far as what God has done for me i always question my religion especially since i was rasied Catholic and i have seen especially the last few years recently how many things have come about in the Catholic church that is bad(things that were and are being done that is) i dont try to preach what i beleive to anyone i just hae conservation of what i beleive to be truth as i know and have learned it i now consider my self Christan(sp) i do beleive in God and the whole bible thing and evil as i have learned was created when Satan wanted to take over heaven and be head angle and tell God how to do his job so he was thrown from the heavens and then started the fires of hell and this is just a thought why do we question God when bad things happen but forget to praise him when OGd things happen
i understand what you are saying..but again that comes from the human side of things..give 100 scollors a paragraph to translate and they all do it diferently..God created the living things..and gave us free will..if he wanted to take it away..yes he could do so..but then if he did eradicate it..he would be takeing the promise of giving us free will back..and the oportunity to live and learn..and decide what we believe.. .and yes created the angel who made the choice to become the evil we view as satan.. i have a hard time going to most churches because of how a lot of humans contradict..but this is why it's never a good idea to put your faith into a human..because we are only that..human..
God has loved me through so much...and after divorce has been faithful to restore my life . He has given me deep peace and love beyond what I could ever imagine. And He has healed some pretty deep wounds...freed me to love and give and trust again. He has given me life and abundantly.....its up to me to continue to choose that Life.His grace helps me to do that day after day.
hey there! I was raised Catholic and lived in Pasadena...check out Harvest Rock Church. Its a great place to grow in freindship and faith - even though its not Catholic....try outside of the box. Protesants and catholics are both Chritstian....its the same Gospel and Jesus. And I got to know Jesus after just hearing about him all my life...personlaly. RICH. You are in a good place.
Lots of great people and music at Harvest Rock too....if you are interested I can give you some friends names......
for me is when this verse came true and it was proven true 100% and it stands true today and it will be forever true.mark 10:27 with men it is impossible,but not with God for with God all things are possible"'.. for after my ex wife left me and when i decide to go after custody of my children which at the time it was impossible and never done.it has always been in a case of divorce that the woman gets the kids and the man pays child support.the only except to the rule if they woman is willing to sign her rights away for the children.which my ex wife was not going to do and it was going to have to be fought out in a courtroom where everyone knew that the man will lose and the woman was going to win no matter what.everyone who i talk to about it told me it was impossible.ministers,preachers,priests and rabbi's i talk to and they all said it was impossible and they was man of God and they was telling me it was impossible.for 1 year i had to listen to people telling me there was no way in hell that it will be done.but i believe in God and i knew through God everything is possible and for God nothing is impossible.so 1 night i got that and pray to God saying you have gving my children to me and i thank you for that,when i lost my children you gave them back to me.i thank you for that,every since they have been born you have giving me what i needed to take care of them,i thank you for that.but now lord they are telling me what i want to do is impossible.but i know through you anything and everything is possible.but now lord it is out of my hands you have giving me these children to love.to care for and watch over them for you.but now lord it is time to but them back into your hands lord and let your willing be done.knowing in my heart whe i prayed that i could lose them and if i have lost them i would not have seen them until they have grow up and came and found me.it was all or nothing no middle ground,win all or lose all.for 4 months i knew if i lost i will lose what was my life i will lose what i hold dear in this life,i know i will lose what was keeping me going in this life,what was giving me the reason to live and thank God for each new day that he has gving me with them.i knew if i lost i will lose everything.on 12-17-92 a judge done not what the law told him he had to do.he did not do what people told him what was right.he knew he was going against everybody.but sometimes doing what not what you think is right,doing not what other thinks is right.but doing what really is right and it goes against all odds for it is the right thing to do.will be the hardest thing you will do.facing all consequences knowing people i will tell you,you was right but doing it with your head held high cause you knew it was the right thing to do no matter what someone else thought.on 12-16-93 i was gving full custody of my 5 children cause it was the right thing to do and it went against all of the rules back than.but it was the right thing to do
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