bush definition of success (42)

I cannot subscribe to 'delenda America'. I dont like them either - but 'delenda' no. That is over the top.

I understand completely how you're feeling and I agree, the world was bad enough without them on the lead! but we will not become them. We might be enraged with every new atrocity and crime that comes to pass but it's all because most people do nothing to change it. Educating and enlightening the people may -or may not- save us, but its the way to go without turning their methods into everybody's options against threats -them in this case-

I'm new here and surely have not expressed my opinion a lot but I can be sure for the following.
Day by day I realize that the American People get their information from media that are -in a great degree- controlled by the very group that governs them. There are times that I feel sorry for America. Not just because it lies and kills for profit, but because Americans believe that voting has anything to do with elections in their country.
America should not serve for third party multi-billion interests.
However, we make our countries what they are. America's tax money is used against other populations for profit. Yes? No? Somebody needs to wake up Because the responsibility of tolerating a government that treats the rest of the world with absolute and childish arguments like "you're with us or you're against us" falls on all of the American people. There is no definition of good and evil, but I understand that deep down its all about fair against unfair. The moral ones who treat the rest fairly are the Good. The self-centered money-making or quite possibly ignorant Rest are the ones that support this government. I'm sure that's Bush's definition of success

As to the sensible people (and they are in a clear majority) in London, Paris, Berlin, Rome, and other European capitals who are planning and succeeding for the running out of town of Tonys, Silvios, and similars in political and media allies and capos is no doubt that its enough !

Meanwhile, for Americans who despise the Bush regime, take heart that throughout "Old Europe," they can have many fellow travelers and friends.

If you want to unplug from the Matrix, go to Europe, enjoy the French joie de vivre, the Spanish hospitality, and the British wry sense of humor.
We Europeans are doing all we can to rid ourselves of the scourges of neo-conservatism and we are with the Americans all the way in the upcoming campaign to cleanse the corridors of power of the same blight.
But we cant vote for them - can we !

incredibly well said!
Bravo

There is the matter of authenticity of 'feeling' when we take a stance in an issue which has not really affected our lives. Our world has not been blown apart nor we starved into submission. I've seen people take very strong positions on the Palestine/Israel conflict - people who have never been in it, fear no harm from it, never been involved directly in it. And very often the positions of such oursiders is very extreme. It's not authentic and it serves to egg on the adversaries in the field for the dubious vicarious thrill of those outsiders. This is not the same as demonstrating or showing solidarity.

What're your thoughts on this?

I guess It depends on how mature and political a person is. Personally I think an individual that matches your description cannot stand in a conversation long enough before people see that it comes as one sided or plainly presumptive. It doesn't matter the strength of the position that one takes, at least not for long. But I guess a person that has solid knowledge of the issue but uses it to its personal interest is hard to uncover. On the other hand, fear of this shouldn't prevent people from expressing their opinions.
However, being not affected by an issue or simply being far away from any of the consequences might also guarantee clarity of spirit instead of clouding judgment with temper and heat, as usually is the case for many people that find themselves under suffering. Personally, I listen to everyone carefully and trust my own filters and gut to form my own mind about them or their claims

Amen to that

You are probably right, not all Americans; Did you watch Chris Matthews’ Thursday night hosting the first Republican debate? Nine out of ten are same moronistic breed – and it is scary… If the next President is a republican – can some one adopt me or give a political asylum?