Well first off I want to say Congrats on being a grandparent! That means you get every right to spoil her child =)
But if it were up to me, I wouldn't let that woman get anywhere near that baby with her record of drinking. I don't know the whole story, only what you posted and thats what I'm basing my opinons on. What does the bf have to say about all this? Is he atleast trying to protect your daughter and the baby, or is he with his Mom and for aborsion(sp?). And if "Crazy" Mom is already threatening(sp?) your daughter even before she moves in, that should throw up red flags.
Just my thoughts on it all. Keep us posted about that baby! =)
Whatever you do, keep Carlee outta that house. If she has a snowball's chance in hell at being happy, it sure ain't there. She's doing adult business, but still a minor. Don't allow her there anymore. Ther bf can come to your house.
Thanks y'all. Yes, his views were the same when he found out. I guess the 24 hrs he had to think about it has changed his views. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. He's just a kid himself, 17. My daughter has a level head on her shoulders and will not being going to his house to visit him. He is totally welcome to come here. She has way to much stress right now to have to deal with the psycho woman! LOL She is going to focus on her health, her baby, and school.
Yup, insane. Save the mother and the child. It is hard enough growing up in this world and a baby needs all the help it can get. Do what you know to be right and screw them.
Charlee Bf's mother hasn't a snowballs chance in hell of taking and keeping Charlees baby... Its gone way beyond comperhension what she feels are her limits real of control... (one too many soap box operas if you ask me) Even if this woman was an angel... There is no just cause for any instituation be it state or local gov. to grant her custody... She is just trying to jerk everyones chain to see if she could create anomosity between everyone... she has earned the most prestigious title of "DRMAMA QUEEN" ALL HAIL THE QUEEN!!!! Disreguard this woman... ignore her intentions...
Charlee has some big decisions to make... Give her all the support you can muster....
and enjoy this new life that is being brought into your family...
Let me first say "hi...nice to meet you"...and follow that closely by saying "congrats on the upcoming grandbaby and sorry to hear that you and your family are going through this crap".
Next...I'm not exactly sure of the specific laws in your state (I live in Canada)..but I know the laws VERY well here as well as motives behind human behaviours because I am a psych nurse working on a forensic unit.
First...just because they are the grandparents does not automatically give them any specific "rights" to this child..the courts will always look at what is in the best interest of the child..and unless there is something seriously wrong with your daughter's situation this lady doesn't have a chance in hell of ever "taking" this child from anyone...Plus..if you can make a case proving that she/they would have a detrimental effect on the wellbeing of the child..you could actually prevent her from ever having any access.
Regarding the WHY she is being this way...of course, I don't know you or any other person involved personally, but I can make a very likely hypothesis based on general human behaviour principals. I would guess that this woman has had a pretty big influence on her son...perhaps with him being the proverbial "momma's boy"...with him looking to and trusting her guidance for most of his life...In other words...she has maintained "control" over her universe up until now...Insert your daughter's pregnancy here....Suddenly decisions can be made and are being made with NO power or say at all being in this woman's hands...I think she is first enraged that something out of her actual control has happened...with her son perhaps even TELLING her something like "this is NOT your decision OR your life, mom"... In an effort to (in her own mind) regain some part of this lost control, she is focussing on what she thinks SHE has rights to do...tell your daughter/her son WHAT is going to happen...and how...with feeble threats following as a measure to ensure compliance.
I think that deep down she knows as well as you do that she can't do a damned thing...but she's just not used to having to face up to that...
If she's a bad lady/influence...do continue to keep any documentation that shows this..including keeping a written log including dates, times, and people involved of each and every inappropriate action/event that occurs. In most places, this type of log will stand up in court as evidence.
In the mean time, I wouldn't worry too much (and I'm sure that you're not) because the reality IS that your daughter is a minor...and you have more say at this point than anyone else involved (other than the father). As long as you and your daughter can show how this child will have quality of life with you once born...you will have things just the way you want.
Also, there is a chance that once this lady gives up on the denial thing she may come back down to earth...
Best of luck...and help your daughter enjoy her pregnancy...and not get too stressed over this situation...Stress can cause a LOT of detrimental effects on an unborn child...some research says even worse than smoking...
if the laws are the saem there as in new hampshire...the ONLY one..repeat the ONLY one to have any legal authority over that baby is YOU...it at this point even supercedes your daughter so no worries,,,the only way to get her hooks into that child is to take it to court and from the sounds of it she doesnt have achance in hell...she has to prove the childs current situation is bad.......not that in her care is better
Common sense dictates that the bf's mother's idle threats have no ground and are unfounded.
HOWEVER, what IS a threat is Carlee's well being. Really. Time to say "cause I'm the Mom and I said so." Keep her outta that house. She is still a child herself and is in no way equiped to mentally deal with such ridiculous behavior from an adult.
Protect her.
There was no mention of this, but don't force them into the "do the right thing" role and get married. Statistically disaterous. Time will wait on them if they're meant to be.
Considering this is YOUR daughter, that woman has no control over what happens with the baby. If that baby is to have a chance, keep your daughter away from the fathers mother to keep the stress down.
Thank you all very much. You all just made me cry, something I don't do very often. There goes my latte buzz too...lol She's NOT going back. Come hell or high water, she's not going back. I can only hope to be the kind of support my mom was to me when I got pregnant with my oldest child. She was awesome! My kids and I are very close, so I will always be here for them. I want to be the BEST possible gramma for the baby as I can. But 1st I'm the "mom" and will always be. She works at a coffee bar, so I took over her caffiene for her (smiles) (insert latte buzz) hehe
Due Date in late August or early Sept, she has to have an ultrasound. The pill messed things up..lol
Again, thank you all so very much for your advice and support. Jini
Messed up situation indeed. The bf's mom needs some mental evaluations, cause she's got more than a screw loose. It's rough seeing someone so young preparing for parenthood. Be there for her all the way, and try to keep the physco at arms length at least, maybe farther if needed. I hope all goes well for you and the mother to be. I wish all parents would be as supportive for their expecting children.
Thanks again angel. She'll be shooting for a quite a few dates, August 2nd, 12th, 14th, 22nd, 20th (twice), 23rd, Sept. 5th, 15th (her b-day) LOL I pray she don't go into labor on everyone of those dates. I'll have to pitch a tent in the hospital parking lot..LOL
Report threads that break rules, are offensive, or contain fighting. Staff may not be aware of the forum abuse, and cannot do anything about it unless you tell us about it. click to report forum abuse »
If one of the comments is offensive, please report the comment instead (there is a link in each comment to report it).
But if it were up to me, I wouldn't let that woman get anywhere near that baby with her record of drinking. I don't know the whole story, only what you posted and thats what I'm basing my opinons on. What does the bf have to say about all this? Is he atleast trying to protect your daughter and the baby, or is he with his Mom and for aborsion(sp?). And if "Crazy" Mom is already threatening(sp?) your daughter even before she moves in, that should throw up red flags.
Just my thoughts on it all. Keep us posted about that baby! =)
Allen