What are two sides of the death penalty? (171)
'prison is punishment enough.. and at least if the person does turn out to be wrongly convicted they can walk out alive'
Let us also not forget that a mistake in the administration of the death penalty is not a justification for abolishing the death penalty itself.
That is like saying that if someone can be punished by mistake for something they didn’t do, then that is justification to abolish the punishment.
Why don’t we abolish imprisonment itself on these grounds, since people can be wrongfully imprisoned for the rest of their life?
In fact, someone who has been in prison for twenty years and is innocent is far more likely to mind . . . than someone who was innocent and was executed.
Maybe gallows humor is not appropriate for this thread, nevertheless – there it is.
Let us also not forget that a mistake in the administration of the death penalty is not a justification for abolishing the death penalty itself.
That is like saying that if someone can be punished by mistake for something they didn’t do, then that is justification to abolish the punishment.
Why don’t we abolish imprisonment itself on these grounds, since people can be wrongfully imprisoned for the rest of their life?
In fact, someone who has been in prison for twenty years and is innocent is far more likely to mind . . . than someone who was innocent and was executed.
Maybe gallows humor is not appropriate for this thread, nevertheless – there it is.
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Sup fire? didnt think any1 was still alive in Mi.
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Ok, so I am going to take this to the far extreme now....
You say that the death penalty should be abolished...lets say that it has been...
so now, we have the prision system that is already overflowing and in danger of bursting at the seams...now we are going to throw in the ppl that were at one time sentanced to die for their crimes into the mix....
as tax payers, we pay for the health care, food, clothing, cable, attorney costs, wieghts for them to work out with, water, gas, electric and anything else that the prisonier needs..
while my tax dollars are paying for this criminal, who could not abid by the laws that govern the state, country and world that the rest of us law abiding citizens live in...I am struggling to pay for my water, gas, electricity, put food on my table for my family and attempt to improve my life....
but that now becomes impossible, why you are asking, because the criminal has more rights than a law abiding citizen does...and it is becoming worse every day...
think on that, and then let me know if you believe that it is FAIR to the average person who does not break the law to have to suffer and have to pay for someone that has broken the law and most likely if given the chance, will break the law again...
just something to think about...
You say that the death penalty should be abolished...lets say that it has been...
so now, we have the prision system that is already overflowing and in danger of bursting at the seams...now we are going to throw in the ppl that were at one time sentanced to die for their crimes into the mix....
as tax payers, we pay for the health care, food, clothing, cable, attorney costs, wieghts for them to work out with, water, gas, electric and anything else that the prisonier needs..
while my tax dollars are paying for this criminal, who could not abid by the laws that govern the state, country and world that the rest of us law abiding citizens live in...I am struggling to pay for my water, gas, electricity, put food on my table for my family and attempt to improve my life....
but that now becomes impossible, why you are asking, because the criminal has more rights than a law abiding citizen does...and it is becoming worse every day...
think on that, and then let me know if you believe that it is FAIR to the average person who does not break the law to have to suffer and have to pay for someone that has broken the law and most likely if given the chance, will break the law again...
just something to think about...
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AMEN
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why would the death penalty be a deterrant ??
why do so many inprisioned ppl try to commit suicide??
cos its a way out ....... cos it is preferable to being locked up for years and years, or forever
scrap the death penalty and make life mean life
why do so many inprisioned ppl try to commit suicide??
cos its a way out ....... cos it is preferable to being locked up for years and years, or forever
scrap the death penalty and make life mean life
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Agreed its more punishment but costs too much of my $ keeping them alive. Now if they had to somehow pay for their own existance im all for it.
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a lot of studies show that the death penalty costs a whole lot more than keeping ppl in prison
just one study i found
Total cost of death penalty is 38% greater than total cost of life without parole sentences. (Indiana Criminal Law Study Commission, January 10, 2002)
just one study i found
Total cost of death penalty is 38% greater than total cost of life without parole sentences. (Indiana Criminal Law Study Commission, January 10, 2002)
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Then let me handle it.......promise i'll do it WAY cheaper
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that makes you no better than the criminals we are talking about
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If you say so.
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I fully understand where you are coming from with this...but if you were to take the actions that you are think of....then what really makes you any different from them....I am curious, if I am wrong...I can admit it...I personally do not see the difference...
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which makes the state criminals too
for taking a life
for planning to take a life
in fact it makes them guilty of the very thing they abhor
premeditated murder
it just continues the cycle of violence and murder
they become the killers
for taking a life
for planning to take a life
in fact it makes them guilty of the very thing they abhor
premeditated murder
it just continues the cycle of violence and murder
they become the killers
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I hate these kind of questions.
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I'm saying it's american politics that makes it cost more $ to kill a criminal (if that IS even the case) then keep em alive on my $ for 40+ years. That is not possible. Let's be logical. And I won't charge anything to stick em in the arm with a needle. BTW It only costs $50-$100 for an animal. So are veterinarians murders?
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Where did you hear this from?In some caes the dna had been contaminated making it a mix up in several caes.Rarely here do you see someone on the death penalty who didn't deserve it.I think they ought to make the death penalty to include child molestors.I think the sickiest kind of people are these kinds.And can't be fixed so why let them go on hurting our children ?
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good point...I need to think on this just a bit...I will get back to you very soon
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AMEN!!!!!!!
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from the american civil liberties union website
As of February 2004, 113 inmates had been found innocent and released from death row. More than half of these have been released in the last 10 years. That means one person has been exonerated for every eight people executed.
A study by Columbia University professor James Liebman examined thousands of capital sentences that had been reviewed by courts in 34 states from 1973 to 1995. ""An astonishing 82 percent of death row inmates did not deserve to receive the death penalty,"" he said in his conclusion. ""One in twenty death row inmates is later found not guilty.""
The vast majority of those exonerated were found innocent because someone came forward to confess committing the crime; key witness testimony was found to be illegitimate; or new evidence was found to support innocence
As of February 2004, 113 inmates had been found innocent and released from death row. More than half of these have been released in the last 10 years. That means one person has been exonerated for every eight people executed.
A study by Columbia University professor James Liebman examined thousands of capital sentences that had been reviewed by courts in 34 states from 1973 to 1995. ""An astonishing 82 percent of death row inmates did not deserve to receive the death penalty,"" he said in his conclusion. ""One in twenty death row inmates is later found not guilty.""
The vast majority of those exonerated were found innocent because someone came forward to confess committing the crime; key witness testimony was found to be illegitimate; or new evidence was found to support innocence
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Just for the record if I was falsely convicted of a serious crime and they wouldn't figure it out for let's say 10 years i'd much rather get the chair then sit there and rot for years for no reason. Just my opinion tho.
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In fact, if there is anything execution is NOT, it is a punishment. Since one can learn nothing from it, therefore it is ONLY - in this sense - a deterrent. And a clarification in the mind of mankind of what is NOT tolerated.