What are two sides of the death penalty? (171)
GREEN_08Algonac, Michigan USA89 Postsjawdrop:That is remarkable!!!!!! If that is the case we need a better system so we can start "offing" the RIGHT people that truly deserve it.:
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I think when the day came, you'd rather be let go.
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Waiting 10 years?
NO THANX!!!!!!!!
NO THANX!!!!!!!!
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this is study made by one professor does not make it a known factor.And the death penalty has served us well.There are some that are so downright sick and there is no cure for them.But still these animals are let back out into our society.All it takes is one sick act to ruin a child forever.And if you want to go so far to say it needs to be abolished ,then you have no ideal of the criminal mind.Of how many just get their hands slapped are let loose to do deadly damage.I can see the sad look in faces when this guy molested and beat to death his girlfriend only to be let out so he could kill her best friend who testified again him,where is the justice here.Our government is not always on the ball,and are know to drop the ball.Such as the little girl who went missing for days,only to have been taken by a man across the street who was a known child molestor who failed to be registered as one,when he moved state to state.And what was the cost here a childs life was taken.What is your opinion on this he took another ones life a child,should he be given the right to live?
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the number of innocents that have been released is a fact
and a fact that is open to the public on record
as you say ......... some are let back into society
theres the answer
dont let em back out there
let em stay for life in jail
if someone killed my child, the i think the first thing i would say to myself is that i want him/her dead
but when i think about it
that wont bring my child back ..... it wont make me feel better
do you think the families of the child have different feelings to the families of the murderer??
what about their family? their mother? their child? so we ..... who live in a civilised society treat them as outcasts as well ??
murder means killing someone
by state or by individual
its still murder
what’s in a name? that which we call a rose ......by any other name would smell as sweet
and a fact that is open to the public on record
as you say ......... some are let back into society
theres the answer
dont let em back out there
let em stay for life in jail
if someone killed my child, the i think the first thing i would say to myself is that i want him/her dead
but when i think about it
that wont bring my child back ..... it wont make me feel better
do you think the families of the child have different feelings to the families of the murderer??
what about their family? their mother? their child? so we ..... who live in a civilised society treat them as outcasts as well ??
murder means killing someone
by state or by individual
its still murder
what’s in a name? that which we call a rose ......by any other name would smell as sweet
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I had to go back into some files....but I knew I had this somewhere...
The Costs of Incarceration
Correctional services expenditures totalled $2.8 billion in 2004/2005, up 2% in constant dollars from 2003/2004. Custodial services (prisons) accounted for the largest proportion (71%) of the expenditures, followed by community supervision services (14%), headquarters and central services (14%), and National Parole Board and provincial parole boards (2%). This figure does not include policing or court costs which bring the total expenditures up to more than $10 billion for the year.
Cost of incarcerating a Federal prisoner: $259.05 per prisoner/per day
Cost of incarcerating a Federal female prisoner: $150,000-$250,000 per prisoner/per year
Cost of incarcerating a Federal male prisoner: $87,665 per prisoner/per year
Cost of incarcerating a provincial prisoner: $141.78: per prisoner/per day
The cost of alternatives such as probation, bail supervision and community supervision range from $5-$25/day.
now how is it cheeper to keep them alive than to carry out their death sentance????
The Costs of Incarceration
Correctional services expenditures totalled $2.8 billion in 2004/2005, up 2% in constant dollars from 2003/2004. Custodial services (prisons) accounted for the largest proportion (71%) of the expenditures, followed by community supervision services (14%), headquarters and central services (14%), and National Parole Board and provincial parole boards (2%). This figure does not include policing or court costs which bring the total expenditures up to more than $10 billion for the year.
Cost of incarcerating a Federal prisoner: $259.05 per prisoner/per day
Cost of incarcerating a Federal female prisoner: $150,000-$250,000 per prisoner/per year
Cost of incarcerating a Federal male prisoner: $87,665 per prisoner/per year
Cost of incarcerating a provincial prisoner: $141.78: per prisoner/per day
The cost of alternatives such as probation, bail supervision and community supervision range from $5-$25/day.
now how is it cheeper to keep them alive than to carry out their death sentance????
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my last post...was only dealing with Canada.....
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A Duke University study found... "The death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the costs of a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of imprisonment for life." ( The costs of processing murder cases in North Carolina / Philip J. Cook, Donna B. Slawson ; with the assistance of Lori A. Gries. [Durham, NC] : Terry Sanford Institute of Public Policy, Duke University, 1993.)
"The death penalty costs California $90 million annually beyond the ordinary costs of the justice system - $78 million of that total is incurred at the trial level." (Sacramento Bee, March 18, 1988).
"A 1991 study of the Texas criminal justice system estimated the cost of appealing capital murder at $2,316,655. In contrast, the cost of housing a prisoner in a Texas maximum security prison single cell for 40 years is estimated at $750,000." (Punishment and the Death Penalty, edited by Robert M. Baird and Stuart E. Rosenbaum 1995 p.109 )
"Florida spent an estimated $57 million on the death penalty from 1973 to 1988 to achieve 18 executions - that is an average of $3.2 million per execution."
(Miami Herald, July 10, 1988).
"Florida calculated that each execution there costs some $3.18 million. If incarceration is estimated to cost $17000/year, a comparable statistic for life in prison of 40 years would be $680,000."
(The Geography of Execution... The Capital Punishment Quagmire in America, Keith Harries and Derral Cheatwood 1997 p.6)
Figures from the General Accounting Office are close to these results. Total annual costs for all U.S. Prisons, State and Federal, was $17.7 billion in 1994 along with a total prison population of 1.1 million inmates. That amounts to $16100 per inmate/year.
(GOA report and testimony FY-97 GGD-97-15 )
"The death penalty costs California $90 million annually beyond the ordinary costs of the justice system - $78 million of that total is incurred at the trial level." (Sacramento Bee, March 18, 1988).
"A 1991 study of the Texas criminal justice system estimated the cost of appealing capital murder at $2,316,655. In contrast, the cost of housing a prisoner in a Texas maximum security prison single cell for 40 years is estimated at $750,000." (Punishment and the Death Penalty, edited by Robert M. Baird and Stuart E. Rosenbaum 1995 p.109 )
"Florida spent an estimated $57 million on the death penalty from 1973 to 1988 to achieve 18 executions - that is an average of $3.2 million per execution."
(Miami Herald, July 10, 1988).
"Florida calculated that each execution there costs some $3.18 million. If incarceration is estimated to cost $17000/year, a comparable statistic for life in prison of 40 years would be $680,000."
(The Geography of Execution... The Capital Punishment Quagmire in America, Keith Harries and Derral Cheatwood 1997 p.6)
Figures from the General Accounting Office are close to these results. Total annual costs for all U.S. Prisons, State and Federal, was $17.7 billion in 1994 along with a total prison population of 1.1 million inmates. That amounts to $16100 per inmate/year.
(GOA report and testimony FY-97 GGD-97-15 )
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whats the price of a human life ????????????????????
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That amounts to $16100 per inmate/year.
this is what it is saying it costs to keep 1 prisoner in prison for a year....
that is more money than a lot of ppl make in one year....
...so it is ok to take from them, the ones that are at or below the poverty level and let these criminals live a better life on the inside than most do on the outside????
this is what it is saying it costs to keep 1 prisoner in prison for a year....
that is more money than a lot of ppl make in one year....
...so it is ok to take from them, the ones that are at or below the poverty level and let these criminals live a better life on the inside than most do on the outside????
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who's life is worth more??? someone who will take advantage of chance given them to harm another...
or someone that will take advantage of chance given them to better themselves and then teach others???
or someone that will take advantage of chance given them to better themselves and then teach others???
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If they molest a child = $0
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i just found the website thats from
thats for the statistics in canada
thers no death penalty in canada to compare it to
thats for the statistics in canada
thers no death penalty in canada to compare it to
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I could not understand why to debate about the coasts of human life.
Life is life doesn't matter if it is about the costs of arrest or i dead penalty.
Behind everybody is a history and a family. Because they are still human.
If we only look for the coasts, which would we eliminate as next, because it is to expensive to keep them alive?
It is in my opinion a harder penalty to arrest someone in isolation for the rest of his life as to kill them.
JMO
Life is life doesn't matter if it is about the costs of arrest or i dead penalty.
Behind everybody is a history and a family. Because they are still human.
If we only look for the coasts, which would we eliminate as next, because it is to expensive to keep them alive?
It is in my opinion a harder penalty to arrest someone in isolation for the rest of his life as to kill them.
JMO
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YES...NOBODY IS PERFECT IN THIS WORLD......
PEOPLE DO WRONG THINGS BCOS OF THEIR IGNORANCE..
AND THEY SHOULD BE PUNISHED AND REHABILITATED....
DEATH PENALTY CAANOT BE ACCEPTED AS A HUMAN......
BUT SOMETIMES HAVE TO DO......BCOS OF THE OTHERS( FOR WHOLE SOCITY'S) SAFE.
HOWEVER IT'S BETTER IF THEY ARE REHABILITATED BY THE GOVERNMENT OR ANYOTHER ORGANISATION IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM AS A GOOD CITIZENS AGAIN.
ANY OF A GUITY WILL SUFFER ONE DAY BCOS OF THEIR DEEDS. HE/SHE WILL BE PUNISHED BY THE DOCTRINE OF THIS WORLD. SOME TIMES IT HAPPENS IN THIS LIFE AND SOMETIMES IN NEXT LIFE.
PEOPLE DO WRONG THINGS BCOS OF THEIR IGNORANCE..
AND THEY SHOULD BE PUNISHED AND REHABILITATED....
DEATH PENALTY CAANOT BE ACCEPTED AS A HUMAN......
BUT SOMETIMES HAVE TO DO......BCOS OF THE OTHERS( FOR WHOLE SOCITY'S) SAFE.
HOWEVER IT'S BETTER IF THEY ARE REHABILITATED BY THE GOVERNMENT OR ANYOTHER ORGANISATION IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM AS A GOOD CITIZENS AGAIN.
ANY OF A GUITY WILL SUFFER ONE DAY BCOS OF THEIR DEEDS. HE/SHE WILL BE PUNISHED BY THE DOCTRINE OF THIS WORLD. SOME TIMES IT HAPPENS IN THIS LIFE AND SOMETIMES IN NEXT LIFE.
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ok Dom...here is a website that is from the US....it breaks down the costs per inmate on a daily and yearly basis....wich is MORE than what you were talking about earlier....
in this artical for 2001, the average cost to keep 1 prisoner in jail for a year was $22, 650.
I don't know about you...but that is way too much money.....that is double what some ppl's annual income is
in this artical for 2001, the average cost to keep 1 prisoner in jail for a year was $22, 650.
I don't know about you...but that is way too much money.....that is double what some ppl's annual income is
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Again is it fair to rehabilitate ones there is no hope for who will get out and destroy over and over again.No it isn't.Most states here do not have the death penalty and the ones who don't have a rise in crime not to mention the overcrowding.There comes a time to say enough is enough.And you ask about the murderers family,why didn't they watch him more,to see if he was stumbling along his way growing up.People who are born to do this such as psychopaths what do u say about them.Studies are being made in our top crime labs in Virginia today they come to the same conclusion these types will kill and kill until they are silenced.So you say we should let them spend life in prison why so they can kill in there these people understand never get better.As that of a child molestor or predator,but if its up to you like its going on now you want to rehabilitate them.To hell with that.I know several researches and studies have been done on these type who just kill to kill.And the conclusion is the same they are not crazy to be locked away in some looney bin,they are cold blooded killers.You want that running around,then you take them .
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95% AGREED
HI SWEET HONEY.....
HI SWEET HONEY.....
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