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Just for the record, The living allowance paid to inner London residents is a pittance compared to the real cost of living there.

I moved to the Scottish Highlands 11 weeks ago and Im sorry to say guys and gals there is no way Id ever go back to any part of England.

ps. I agree with everything else that you said.

Tartan, did you watch Newsnight on tuesday eve?, kinda blew out of the water the whole "immigrants are good for us" charade!. I'm not saying that immigration is all bad, yes I believe that we should have freedom to move and live wherever, and that goes for people coming here too, but I'm afraid the whole thing has got out of hand in this country, and why do we have to be the ones that bend over backward to give others the whip hand, wheras every other country I know and have travelled and worked in, puts its own people first, and rightly so.

And no disrespect to a fellow Celt, but to be honest most of Scotland has had very little first hand experience of massed immigration, though I'm sure if there were demands from immigrant groups to rename areas up here (as is happenning in Shoreditch in London, they want to rename that area "Bangaland"), then would you be ok with that?. Glasgow knows the problems unchecked immigration brings, just ask those who are unable to walk the streets of Pollock because of "no go areas"-no mainstream party seems to be interested in tackling the problem, perhaps in fear of being called "wacist", but did the SNP not recently court a certain mr Trevor Phillips of the CRE, who wants more immigrants to come to Scotland, and bear in mind that mr Phillips has strong personal views about whites, he is publically on record for calling us "subhuman", this being a man employed by our taxes in another Labour quango, to represent racial equality!. Are you ok with that too?, as a nation, and that goes for us all, Scot, Welsh, English, Irish, we need to get up off our knees and have some pride, and that pride is to say NO to further destruction of our values and our future. No other party but the BNP are prepared to speak up immigration, and they certainly are against the corruption in high places too, did they not blow the whistle on that leech Conway and his expense scams?, not too mention that other parasite the speaker of the house. No wonder the mainstream parties dont want them around!

Sorry I cant agree with you regarding the no go areas, yes its not a new thing, Moss Side in Manchester was well known in the 60's as such, and Tiger Bay in Cardiff back as early as the twenties, but there is one common denominator, and that is immigration. Tiger Bay went up in riots during and after the first world war, when mainly African immigrants were brought in while our boys died in their millions, and the result was that the immigrants brought a type of crime unprecedented in the sleepy valleys of Wales up until that point. Returning soldiers were dismayed to say the least at what they found, and settled scores with the newcomers who had run amock while the men were away.
Moss Side? need I say more, it was bad as a kid in the 1970's, originally it had been an upmarket area of Manchester, but even in the 70's it was not safe to drive through if you were white. Now I believe it is totally out of bounds, giving the local name of Gunchester to the area.

Did you read of the riots in Belgium over the weekend?, between fans of a visiting white football team, and "local youth", the BBC and Sky failed to mention that the local youth were in fact gangs of North African muslims who had organised the attacks online, targeting whites.

Did you see the boy killed in London (now on an almost daily basis), he was murdered by a group of coloured men over a theft of a mobile phone, and this would probably have been hushed up except for the fact he was an aspiring actor. Most of this knife and gun crime is immigrant orientated, the government put together a report about the problem but were stopped from putting it out due to "pc" rules.

But I do agree we have our own yobs, though our kids seem to be on the receiving end of it these days, easy victims because the government doesnt want to know, and the press wont report it.

I am not against immigration at all, but it does have to be responsible and measured, surely you can see that allowing in scores of mainly young men (many of whom are from countries that are war torn, with the result they are hardened to death and used to violence, not to mention trained in warfare), is suicide for us?. If its families then ok, but when you see those thousands of young blokes waiting at Sangate and other places, then surely you must be a little alarmed? Just look up "Fallen List" if you dare!. Having witnessed many English families move to Scotland in the last couple of years, I ask myself are they the ones that cant afford to escape abroad?, just be carefull that what you wish for, that it doesnt result in the same problems for Scotland- being all fluffy and inclusive is no excuse for being naive.

Oh and before you say that those thousands of young men waiting to arrive here are "escaping persecution", well I know that if I was leaving my family and friends to that fate, I would be more inclined to stay and fight to protect them, but then doesnt that show the different cultural ethos, so how can they assimilate, or is it down to us to become like that?..No thanks! ..but then I'm a nasty "wacist"

Yawn boys?, I think you have been asleep far too long already!, no more coment to give you I'm afraid (which I'm sure will give you the satisfaction of thinking YOU have ended the debate), only that time will tell, wont it?.

ps Doesnt the very definition of Nationalist, be it Scottish or British, imply a view of superiority over other nationalities?.. Anyway I dont want you yawning again guys, wouldnt want you coming over as rude, ignorant or intolerant of others views, I guess for some debate is only ok as long as you agree with them, eh?

I have to wonder about your name "lostbikerboy" and you say you are from Edinburgh but I would guess by your retterick that you are not Scottish. One major fact that you seem to have neglected to mention is that Scotland is in its own right a sovereign nation and has been for over 1000 years.
It was James V1 who in the 17th century started the union of the crowns to attempt to rule Scotland at the stroke of a pen from London. That was followed by the deed of union in 1707 which to all intents and purposes was a traitors charter which was signed by Scottish nobles and not the Scottish people .
The conflicts over the centuries between Scotland and England were initiated by those nobles in both Scotland and England to further their own financial status by gaining estates and titles. In over 1000 years nothing has changed as the politicians who dictate our laws are as corrupt and immoral as any figure in the history of both Scotland and England.
Nothing has changed as the poor are still the losers and the politicians keep their filthy noses in the trough. Dont be under any illusions both Scotland and England are both sovereign nations and we are both equally as proud of our countrys and I am a Scottish nationalist and the definition of the word nationalist I would use is the right to self determination and freedom of will.
One important point the English people should realise is that had Scotland have had control of the revenues from the north sea then today we would have the strongest currency in the developed world with a tax surplus of £6 billion a year. But alas we are too busy ribbing each other to grasp the fact that even the English people outside the M25 perimiter are subsidising those inside the M25. As far as Westminster is concerned England only exists inside the M25.
This is British aristocracy and corruption at its best.

Yes I am a Scottish nationalist and roll on independence and to sum up the roll of Scottish MP's in the westminster parliament by keeping their filthy fingers grasping onto the gravy train I have to quote a phrase from a famous Ayrshire poet Robert Burns who aptly used the phrase "their souls are bought and sold for English gold"

I rest my case....so far !!