Going green and organic (11)
Elley: Seems to me there,s an awful lot of hype about these two issues. The green/organic campaigns are in many ways simply the latest bandwagon. There are people out there making a great deal of money
out of these two issues. For example, car manufacturers are keen to sell their products as being environmentally more friendly than others on the basis that their product uses less fuel, conveniently ignoring the fact that their product,a new car, has a greater impact on the environment than say a used car.
It also amuses me to visit the supermarkets in the UK and see meat products being sold with a seal of approval from the RSPCA !!! Amazing.
out of these two issues. For example, car manufacturers are keen to sell their products as being environmentally more friendly than others on the basis that their product uses less fuel, conveniently ignoring the fact that their product,a new car, has a greater impact on the environment than say a used car.
It also amuses me to visit the supermarkets in the UK and see meat products being sold with a seal of approval from the RSPCA !!! Amazing.
The reason why organic grown food is very expensive is because it is much more labour intensive to grow. You dont just dump a bag of fertiliser in the soil. You have to make the compost, using manure, and it is a lot of work. Then you have to grow certain herbs to distract the predators. And everything is carefully monitored and a lot of labour goes into that too.
I grew organic vegetables on my farm in SA, and sold a cabbage for 5 times the price of a supermarket ... simply because it was an actual miracle to behold - how long it stayed fresh and its taste! The same with green mealies, pumpkins, sweet potatoes, sugar beans, and other stuff. I could not care less if a person wanted to argue about prices ... they always had the choice of buying supermarket or simply growing their own..... like I did. You want quality then you gotta pay.... or pay your medical bills, when your health packs up.... the choice is yours.
About the RSPCA seal of approval ...... perhaps that simply means that the animals were housed and killed in a non-cruel way? Like the chickens not being de-beaked and de-clawed before being crowded together, that they had more than a half hour of sunlight per day? Perhaps that they were kept in smaller family size batches closer to their natural life?
Dont know what they would have done about the bigger animals? Would be interesting to know how they are housed and killed in a "non-cruel" manner? Or maybe they not pumped full of anti-biotics and steroids?
Smokes,I am absolutely certain that scales of economy can be applied as equally to so called organic foods as they can be to so called none organic foods.
Amazing, to kill in a none cruel way. C,mon Smokes,you,re an animal lover too, no ? Or before we kill you we are going to give you the time of your life.
Amazing, to kill in a none cruel way. C,mon Smokes,you,re an animal lover too, no ? Or before we kill you we are going to give you the time of your life.
Smokes,I am absolutely certain that scales of economy can be applied as equally to so called organic foods as they can be to so called none organic foods.
What are scales of economy?
When I devote my time to growing my vegetables in healthy soil - without pesticides and artificial fertilisers, with herbs to distract predators, and each plant is virtually an idividual .... there is NO way I can compare whatever it costs to commercially grown stuff.
Plus, the stuff you buy grown by commercial farmers has been stored in his barns for sometimes months. I do know that the life span of those vegetables is very carefully worked out, and the farmer has to keep a back-stop, allowing the vegetables he supplies "fresh" to have a minimum shelf-life of three to five days. Hence the reason your green beans go "off" after only about 1 week.... their natural life-span from picking is slightly more than 2 months! This gives the farmer 2 months of stock security.
What are scales of economy?
When I devote my time to growing my vegetables in healthy soil - without pesticides and artificial fertilisers, with herbs to distract predators, and each plant is virtually an idividual .... there is NO way I can compare whatever it costs to commercially grown stuff.
Plus, the stuff you buy grown by commercial farmers has been stored in his barns for sometimes months. I do know that the life span of those vegetables is very carefully worked out, and the farmer has to keep a back-stop, allowing the vegetables he supplies "fresh" to have a minimum shelf-life of three to five days. Hence the reason your green beans go "off" after only about 1 week.... their natural life-span from picking is slightly more than 2 months! This gives the farmer 2 months of stock security.
Reminds me of the time I went to the fish counter in a supermarket and asked the girl for some fresh fish.She went to get something out of the freezer and offered it to me. " No I want fresh fish " I protested. " It is fresh,I,ve just got it out of the freezer." she countered.I swear it,s all true.Over here I do not buy much from the supermarket for the reasons you have pointed out. I go to the local greengrocery store,yes,over here the supermarkets have not yet put them out of business. Funnily enough the green grocer is cheaper and fresher!
Also,once when visiting Lincoln in England I saw fields of carrots with " Do not enter " complete with skull and crossbone symbols. A local told me that because the typical supermarket shopper wants uniformly sized carrots the carrots where prematurely chemically stunted. Apparently they used some sort of highly poisonous stuff. Scarey stuff.
--- organic is the silent revolution and protest
even by going organic in part will send a message all the way on the consumtion/sustainable level
--- buy at least one certified organic product when you go shopping each time
even by going organic in part will send a message all the way on the consumtion/sustainable level
--- buy at least one certified organic product when you go shopping each time
CuspofMagic: --- organic is the silent revolution and protest
even by going organic in part will send a message all the way on the consumtion/sustainable level
--- buy at least one certified organic product when you go shopping each time
even by going organic in part will send a message all the way on the consumtion/sustainable level
--- buy at least one certified organic product when you go shopping each time
Better still grow your own.I used to and the taste was amazing. Those were the days.
Elley: Better still grow your own.I used to and the taste was amazing. Those were the days.
absolutley!- if you can, even if its a pot of parsley
Parsley and chips,love it.
If I can afford it, I`d always prefer organic. I hope in future organic farming will grow and the prices wouldn`t be high. In fact, I hope that there would be less stupid and greedy farmers and chemical companies would collapse in agony. No chance, I know.......
In the country I come from - Bulgaria, the soil is fertile and perfect for organic. Farmers do that - they put chemicals in the market products, but never in those for personal consumption. And it seems they never ask theirselfes the simple question - if I can grow for me everything without any artificial components, why should I put them for others ?
In the country I come from - Bulgaria, the soil is fertile and perfect for organic. Farmers do that - they put chemicals in the market products, but never in those for personal consumption. And it seems they never ask theirselfes the simple question - if I can grow for me everything without any artificial components, why should I put them for others ?
Elley:
Also,once when visiting Lincoln in England I saw fields of carrots with " Do not enter " complete with skull and crossbone symbols. A local told me that because the typical supermarket shopper wants uniformly sized carrots the carrots where prematurely chemically stunted. Apparently they used some sort of highly poisonous stuff. Scarey stuff.
Also,once when visiting Lincoln in England I saw fields of carrots with " Do not enter " complete with skull and crossbone symbols. A local told me that because the typical supermarket shopper wants uniformly sized carrots the carrots where prematurely chemically stunted. Apparently they used some sort of highly poisonous stuff. Scarey stuff.
tha's scary..
I love carrots.....
don't put me off them...
no..... I don't want to know!
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out of these two issues. For example, car manufacturers are keen to sell their products as being environmentally more friendly than others on the basis that their product uses less fuel, conveniently ignoring the fact that their product,a new car, has a greater impact on the environment than say a used car.
It also amuses me to visit the supermarkets in the UK and see meat products being sold with a seal of approval from the RSPCA !!! Amazing.