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Jun 27, 2008 3:39 PM CST Diverticulosis...
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
... ok I was recently diagnosed with this and was told to eat fresh veggies but to avoid seeds, nuts and anything that was difficult to digest.



So my questions is am I allowed to eat cucumbers or tomatoes? They both have skins that are difficult to digest and they both have seeds. Do I have to dissect my salad before I eat it?


I was told this condition was common so I am hoping there are others out there that have the same thing and can answer my questions.

I wish my friend Leo was here .... I know he could answer it.



Helphelp
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Jun 27, 2008 3:47 PM CST Diverticulosis...
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
is it to do with not enough fibre or an inability to digest it?
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Jun 27, 2008 3:50 PM CST Diverticulosis...
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
oh Im a silly sod - it doesnt digest anyway - shoot me now please hahaha laugh
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Jun 27, 2008 3:55 PM CST Diverticulosis...
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
trish123: is it to do with not enough fibre or an inability to digest it?


Yes but not just now but apparently all my life. So now I have to avoid certain things and eat lots of fiber
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Jun 27, 2008 3:58 PM CST Diverticulosis...
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
trish123: oh Im a silly sod - it doesnt digest anyway - shoot me now please hahaha


rolling on the floor laughing ..you brits always willing to take the hit.. rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 27, 2008 4:00 PM CST Diverticulosis...
Xtabentun
XtabentunXtabentunOntario, Canada18 Threads 1,722 Posts
The oppinions are shared greatly on the dietary details and there's nothing wrong in that actually. What you should do is watch the food that makes you feel uncomfortable and just avoid it for the next time.
People react differently at same type of food and that's a thing you could use in your advantage and shape your own diet
Hope this helps:


According to Mayo clinic:
"In the past, many doctors recommended that people with diverticulosis avoid seeds and nuts, including foods with small seeds, such as tomatoes, cucumbers and strawberries. It was thought that these tiny particles could lodge in the diverticula and cause inflammation (diverticulitis). But there is no scientific evidence that seeds and nuts cause diverticulitis flares. In fact, eating a high-fiber diet — which may include nuts and seeds — reduces the risk of diverticular disease.

However, if you have diverticulitis and you believe that nuts and seeds trigger your attacks, avoid them. Just make sure you get enough fiber from other dietary sources. "


According with The University of California, San Francisco :
"Recommended Fiber Sources

Apple sauce
Banana
Bran cereals
Canned peaches
Canned pears
Lettuce
Peeled potatoes
Refined hot cereals such as oatmeal, farina and cream of wheat
Refined wheat breads
Tender cooked vegetables such as asparagus tips, beets, mushrooms, turnips and pumpkin
Tomato juice, tomato sauce
Vegetable juices
Tolerance to these foods may vary. Too much coffee, tea or alcohol can lead to dehydration and cause constipation. Remember to eat regular meals and a variety of food. Discuss any questions with a dietician.

Foods to Avoid

The following foods contain indigestible fibers that can aggravate diverticular disease:

Beans and peas
Coarse grains
Coconut
Corn and popcorn
Dried fruits such as raisins
Fruit and vegetable skins
Nuts
Pickles and cucumbers
Seeds
Strawberries
Tomatoes"
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Jun 27, 2008 4:02 PM CST Diverticulosis...
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
BnaturAl: ..you brits always willing to take the hit..




tongue hey thats honesty at work, lets hope it sets me free laugh
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Jun 27, 2008 4:03 PM CST Diverticulosis...
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
theres too much of this to copy in but its a good link;

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Jun 27, 2008 4:04 PM CST Diverticulosis...
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
trish123: hey thats honesty at work, lets hope it sets me free


rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 27, 2008 4:05 PM CST Diverticulosis...
roseofsharon
roseofsharonroseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK60 Threads 3 Polls 8,699 Posts
Well, I'm no expert but....

Seeds and nuts are kernels of the original "fruit", if you will, whereas tomato pips and cucumber seeds are not. I can see how the latter are easier to digest and if you haven't been told any different, don't worry.

BTW... re. digestion, did you know that bananas are one of the more difficult foodstuffs to digest, producing the hardest work on the digestive system and the lengthiest time?? They are fibrous, have they (the experts) talked to you about this?

You really do need to get clarification, make sure you ask all the relevant questions next time you go to see them......

I truly hope you don't suffer too much in the meantime. Otherwise, Google it?

bouquet
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Jun 27, 2008 4:06 PM CST Diverticulosis...
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
Xtabentun: The oppinions are shared greatly on the dietary details and there's nothing wrong in that actually. What you should do is watch the food that makes you feel uncomfortable and just avoid it for the next time.
People react differently at same type of food and that's a thing you could use in your advantage and shape your own diet
Hope this helps:According to Mayo clinic:
"In the past, many doctors recommended that people with diverticulosis avoid seeds and nuts, including foods with small seeds, such as tomatoes, cucumbers and strawberries. It was thought that these tiny particles could lodge in the diverticula and cause inflammation (diverticulitis). But there is no scientific evidence that seeds and nuts cause diverticulitis flares. In fact, eating a high-fiber diet — which may include nuts and seeds — reduces the risk of diverticular disease.

However, if you have diverticulitis and you believe that nuts and seeds trigger your attacks, avoid them. Just make sure you get enough fiber from other dietary sources. "

According with The University of California, San Francisco :
"Recommended Fiber Sources

Apple sauce
Banana
Bran cereals
Canned peaches
Canned pears
Lettuce
Peeled potatoes
Refined hot cereals such as oatmeal, farina and cream of wheat
Refined wheat breads
Tender cooked vegetables such as asparagus tips, beets, mushrooms, turnips and pumpkin
Tomato juice, tomato sauce
Vegetable juices
Tolerance to these foods may vary. Too much coffee, tea or alcohol can lead to dehydration and cause constipation. Remember to eat regular meals and a variety of food. Discuss any questions with a dietician.

Foods to Avoid

The following foods contain indigestible fibers that can aggravate diverticular disease:

Beans and peas
Coarse grains
Coconut
Corn and popcorn
Dried fruits such as raisins
Fruit and vegetable skins
Nuts
Pickles and cucumbers
Seeds
Strawberries
Tomatoes"



Thanks this does help alot.
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Jun 27, 2008 4:13 PM CST Diverticulosis...
Xtabentun
XtabentunXtabentunOntario, Canada18 Threads 1,722 Posts
Again, just to put yourself at ease, this is another quote

" Fiber and Diverticulosis
Prolonged, vigorous contraction of the colon, usually in the left lower side, may result in diverticulosis. This increases pressure causing small and eventually larger ballooning pockets to form. These pockets usually cause no problems. However, sometimes they can become infected (diverticulitis) or even break open (perforate) causing pockets of infection or inflammation of the sac lining the abdomen (peritonitis). A high-fiber diet may increase the bulk in the stool and thereby reduce the pressure within the colon. By so doing, the formation of pockets is reduced or possibly even stopped.

Some professionals recommend restricting the following foods in diverticulosis diets: nuts, poppy seeds, caraway seeds, rye seeds, popcorn, crunchy peanut butter, corn, cucumber, and squash; as well as fruits and vegetables with seeds such as strawberries, figs, and tomatoes. However, there has never been any medical proof that these foods are injurious. Many gastroenterologists allow and even encourage consuming these foods, depending on an individual's tolerance. "




Have a look at the website, will give you a detailed list of mg of fibers per each type of food. The ammount of fiber you need to aim at should be higher than 25 per day.
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Jun 27, 2008 4:19 PM CST Diverticulosis...
Xtabentun
XtabentunXtabentunOntario, Canada18 Threads 1,722 Posts
Oh, one more thing professor roll eyes laugh
In case you see in your search information related to diverticulosis and diverticulitis, the diet is the same, the only exception is the phase you're at: accute or chronic ( low fiber diet for the accute phase).

Diverticulosis is a condition in which the inner lining layer of the large intestine or colon bulges out
(herniates) through the outer, muscular layer. These ‘outpouchings’ are called diverticula.

Diverticulitis is the term for inflammation and infection in one or more diverticula.

A person having diverticulosis (the condition), and perhaps diverticulitis (the inflammation) as well, is said to
have diverticular disease
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Jun 27, 2008 4:24 PM CST Diverticulosis...
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
I haven't had diverticulitis yet and hope to avoid that step. Even though the bouts with diverticulosis are not fun, they are certainly better than the infection. Now that I have a name for it, I hope to avoid all the discomfort with diet.

All the links are very helpful ... thank you to everyone. I googled it when I first received my diagnosis but didn't find these articles ... guess I didn't read far enough.
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Jun 27, 2008 4:47 PM CST Diverticulosis...
Xtabentun
XtabentunXtabentunOntario, Canada18 Threads 1,722 Posts
Assets52: I haven't had diverticulitis yet and hope to avoid that step. Even though the bouts with diverticulosis are not fun, they are certainly better than the infection. Now that I have a name for it, I hope to avoid all the discomfort with diet.

All the links are very helpful ... thank you to everyone. I googled it when I first received my diagnosis but didn't find these articles ... guess I didn't read far enough.


Hope you won't get there either!
Exercise and drink lots of water too.....will help greatly. And don't stress about it wink

hug Feel better!
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Jun 27, 2008 4:50 PM CST Diverticulosis...
Scottishlass
ScottishlassScottishlassKnoxville, Tennessee USA491 Threads 23 Polls 3,324 Posts
Assets52: ... ok I was recently diagnosed with this and was told to eat fresh veggies but to avoid seeds, nuts and anything that was difficult to digest.
So my questions is am I allowed to eat cucumbers or tomatoes? They both have skins that are difficult to digest and they both have seeds. Do I have to dissect my salad before I eat it?I was told this condition was common so I am hoping there are others out there that have the same thing and can answer my questions.

I wish my friend Leo was here .... I know he could answer it.
Help
Found this on "Web M.D."

How is it treated?
If you have diverticulosis, you will be encouraged to eat a high-fiber diet and drink plenty of water to prevent constipation. Try eating more whole grains, leafy green vegetables, and fruits. You also may add fiber supplements such as Citrucel, Fibercon, and Metamucil. This treatment may help reduce the formation of new pouches (diverticula) and lower the risk of developing diverticulitis.

There was a lot more info there as well, you might want to check it out.
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