John McCain -- 61 Flip-Flops and Counting (62)
roseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK60 Threads 3 Polls 8,699 PostsJohn McCain wears flip-flops???!! OMG!!!! 
That's sooooo last season, darling...!!
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roseofsharon: John McCain wears flip-flops???!! OMG!!!! That's sooooo last season, darling...!!
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nomindgames: Do you know Obamas middle name?
Hussein
Hussein
That really means nothing. It's just a name!
Born Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr, son of a Kenya-born Harvard-educated economist and Ann Dunham, a caucasian anthropologist, was 2 years old when his father left them.
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SusieRR: That really means nothing. It's just a name!
Born Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr, son of a Kenya-born Harvard-educated economist and Ann Dunham, a caucasian anthropologist, was 2 years old when his father left them.
Born Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr, son of a Kenya-born Harvard-educated economist and Ann Dunham, a caucasian anthropologist, was 2 years old when his father left them.
Its a free world .......what if his middle name is Hussein
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SusieRR: That really means nothing. It's just a name!
Born Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr, son of a Kenya-born Harvard-educated economist and Ann Dunham, a caucasian anthropologist, was 2 years old when his father left them.
Born Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr, son of a Kenya-born Harvard-educated economist and Ann Dunham, a caucasian anthropologist, was 2 years old when his father left them.
And "0" experience
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pyaremohan: Its a free world .......what if his middle name is Hussein
Of course, its a free world!! But there are those that work on the basis that what we have been encountering in recent times, i.e. terrorists threats and the like, has been probably generations, if not thousands of years in the making. There is a belief that it is achievable through, firstly, infiltration and, subsequently, manipulation....??
I dunno.... you tell me??!!
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TOP OBAMA FLIP FLOPS...
Monday, February 25, 2008; Page A04
Top Obama Flip-Flops
1. Special interests In January, the Obama campaign described union contributions to the campaigns of Clinton and John Edwards as "special interest" money. Obama changed his tune as he began gathering his own union endorsements. He now refers respectfully to unions as the representatives of "working people" and says he is "thrilled" by their support.
2. Public financing Obama replied "yes" in September 2007 when asked if he would agree to public financing of the presidential election if his GOP opponent did the same. Obama has now attached several conditions to such an agreement, including regulating spending by outside groups. His spokesman says the candidate never committed himself on the matter.
3. The Cuba embargo In January 2004, Obama said it was time "to end the embargo with Cuba" because it had "utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro." Speaking to a Cuban American audience in Miami in August 2007, he said he would not "take off the embargo" as president because it is "an important inducement for change."
4. Illegal immigration In a March 2004 questionnaire, Obama was asked if the government should "crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants." He replied "Oppose." In a Jan. 31, 2008, televised debate, he said that "we do have to crack down on those employers that are taking advantage of the situation."
5. Decriminalization of marijuana While running for the U.S. Senate in January 2004, Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use. In the Oct. 30, 2007, presidential debate, he joined other Democratic candidates in opposing the decriminalization of marijuana.
6... And let's not forget his most recent flip flop.... Last October he was going to cut military defense by billions of dollars... last week he said he would increase it...
Monday, February 25, 2008; Page A04
Top Obama Flip-Flops
1. Special interests In January, the Obama campaign described union contributions to the campaigns of Clinton and John Edwards as "special interest" money. Obama changed his tune as he began gathering his own union endorsements. He now refers respectfully to unions as the representatives of "working people" and says he is "thrilled" by their support.
2. Public financing Obama replied "yes" in September 2007 when asked if he would agree to public financing of the presidential election if his GOP opponent did the same. Obama has now attached several conditions to such an agreement, including regulating spending by outside groups. His spokesman says the candidate never committed himself on the matter.
3. The Cuba embargo In January 2004, Obama said it was time "to end the embargo with Cuba" because it had "utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro." Speaking to a Cuban American audience in Miami in August 2007, he said he would not "take off the embargo" as president because it is "an important inducement for change."
4. Illegal immigration In a March 2004 questionnaire, Obama was asked if the government should "crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants." He replied "Oppose." In a Jan. 31, 2008, televised debate, he said that "we do have to crack down on those employers that are taking advantage of the situation."
5. Decriminalization of marijuana While running for the U.S. Senate in January 2004, Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use. In the Oct. 30, 2007, presidential debate, he joined other Democratic candidates in opposing the decriminalization of marijuana.
6... And let's not forget his most recent flip flop.... Last October he was going to cut military defense by billions of dollars... last week he said he would increase it...
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SusieRR: That really means nothing. It's just a name!
Born Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr, son of a Kenya-born Harvard-educated economist and Ann Dunham, a caucasian anthropologist, was 2 years old when his father left them.
Born Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr, son of a Kenya-born Harvard-educated economist and Ann Dunham, a caucasian anthropologist, was 2 years old when his father left them.
Seriously, in today's world, a name is just a name. It doesn't have to be hiding an agenda. Remember many of us whose ancestors came over here in the last century, had strange names too.
Some were forcibly changed as they got off the ships at Ellis Island just so they would be easier for those processing the paper work to pronounce, spell, write, etc. UNDER the guise of being given Americanized names. My own ancestors went through this.
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In most cultures of the world, the naming of children is taken very seriously, Many cultures do as the Hebrews dis during biblical times, attaching prophetic significance of a person's name. That is also the case of the Luo people of the Nyanza province of southwestern Kenya.
That is the ethnic group of which Barack Obama's father descends. The senator's father, a Muslim, gave his son names from the Arabic language, the same work barak, means "lightning". For the Biblical significance, see Luke 10:18. The senator's middle name means "handsome". But the last name Obama does not come from Arabic. It comes from the Luo language. Ir means "crooked".
Really. Obama means "crooked", "zigzag", or "not in a straight line". So the entire meaning of his name- as it would be understood by diplomats from AFrica or the Arab world- is: "The blessing drom the handsome one that is crooked".
So... is his name prophetic, or more coincidence?
That is the ethnic group of which Barack Obama's father descends. The senator's father, a Muslim, gave his son names from the Arabic language, the same work barak, means "lightning". For the Biblical significance, see Luke 10:18. The senator's middle name means "handsome". But the last name Obama does not come from Arabic. It comes from the Luo language. Ir means "crooked".
Really. Obama means "crooked", "zigzag", or "not in a straight line". So the entire meaning of his name- as it would be understood by diplomats from AFrica or the Arab world- is: "The blessing drom the handsome one that is crooked".
So... is his name prophetic, or more coincidence?
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Barack Obama, Serial Flip-Flopper
June 23, 2008 09:29 AM ET | Bonnie Erbe | Permanent Link
Both presidential candidates spent the weekend trying to explain away recent policy reversals. The predominant question for voters this November may well become: Whose list of flip-flops is longer and more egregious?
From CNN.com:
Days after both men reversed course on major issues, the presidential campaigns of Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain spent much of Sunday's talk-show circuit working to ensure accusations of "flip-flopping" don't stick.
From where I sit, flip-flopping is an unbeatable addiction for Obama. For McCain, by comparison, it's an occasional foible.
The flip-flops preoccupying them right now are on acceptance of public financing for Obama and on offshore oil drilling for McCain.
McCain's policy change makes sense given changed circumstances. Obama's is based purely on greed. McCain opposed offshore oil drilling before but now says it should be pursued off the Florida coast. I don't support his new position. America should be promoting alternative energy sources, not drilling for more oil. But given the run-up in oil prices, one can understand McCain's change of heart.
Obama's flip-flop, on the other hand, is purely about self-interest. He promised to accept public financing before he knew he could raise more money from donors. Now that he can raise twice as much from donors as Uncle Sam would give him if he forswore private donations, of course he's pursuing the bigger bucks. What's more troubling is Obama's list of flip-flops is so limitless, he's beginning to sound like he tailors his position to whichever audience he's addressing at the moment. When he spoke to an AIPAC meeting a couple of weeks back, he said he supports Israeli control of Jerusalem. The next day, trying to placate angry Arab supporters, Obama said "negotiators" should work out the contentious Jerusalem issue.
June 23, 2008 09:29 AM ET | Bonnie Erbe | Permanent Link
Both presidential candidates spent the weekend trying to explain away recent policy reversals. The predominant question for voters this November may well become: Whose list of flip-flops is longer and more egregious?
From CNN.com:
Days after both men reversed course on major issues, the presidential campaigns of Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain spent much of Sunday's talk-show circuit working to ensure accusations of "flip-flopping" don't stick.
From where I sit, flip-flopping is an unbeatable addiction for Obama. For McCain, by comparison, it's an occasional foible.
The flip-flops preoccupying them right now are on acceptance of public financing for Obama and on offshore oil drilling for McCain.
McCain's policy change makes sense given changed circumstances. Obama's is based purely on greed. McCain opposed offshore oil drilling before but now says it should be pursued off the Florida coast. I don't support his new position. America should be promoting alternative energy sources, not drilling for more oil. But given the run-up in oil prices, one can understand McCain's change of heart.
Obama's flip-flop, on the other hand, is purely about self-interest. He promised to accept public financing before he knew he could raise more money from donors. Now that he can raise twice as much from donors as Uncle Sam would give him if he forswore private donations, of course he's pursuing the bigger bucks. What's more troubling is Obama's list of flip-flops is so limitless, he's beginning to sound like he tailors his position to whichever audience he's addressing at the moment. When he spoke to an AIPAC meeting a couple of weeks back, he said he supports Israeli control of Jerusalem. The next day, trying to placate angry Arab supporters, Obama said "negotiators" should work out the contentious Jerusalem issue.
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roseofsharon: Of course, its a free world!! But there are those that work on the basis that what we have been encountering in recent times, i.e. terrorists threats and the like, has been probably generations, if not thousands of years in the making. There is a belief that it is achievable through, firstly, infiltration and, subsequently, manipulation....??
I dunno.... you tell me??!!
I dunno.... you tell me??!!
what i meant was why susiee rr was explanin .its a free world ..........obama has every right ......today we had serial blasts in delhi.....was really worried about ma fren .dunno why am tellin ya all this.........quite didnt get what you meant
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As a New York Post editorial observed:
• He ripped Hillary Clinton for months for voting to list Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization. Days after Clinton conceded, Obama flipped and said he supported the definition.
• Obama repeatedly vowed to meet with various heads of terror states—most notably Ahmadinejad of Iran—"without preconditions." Then, with the nomination in sight, he zigzagged: "There's no reason why we would necessarily meet with Ahmadinejad. He's not the most powerful person in Iran."
• In October, he supported NAFTA expansion. In March, campaigning in the Ohio primary, he called for a "reopening" of the trade pact's terms. This week, he called his own primary rhetoric "overheated" and said NAFTA has had a positive effect on the US economy.
• Yesterday, after signaling opposition to nuclear power, he told Democratic governors he's open to expanding it."
There are many, many other examples, some of which I've noted in prior posts. Change we can believe in? No, change we can count on, because as soon as he takes a position, we can count on the fact he's going to change it in front of the next audience.
• He ripped Hillary Clinton for months for voting to list Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization. Days after Clinton conceded, Obama flipped and said he supported the definition.
• Obama repeatedly vowed to meet with various heads of terror states—most notably Ahmadinejad of Iran—"without preconditions." Then, with the nomination in sight, he zigzagged: "There's no reason why we would necessarily meet with Ahmadinejad. He's not the most powerful person in Iran."
• In October, he supported NAFTA expansion. In March, campaigning in the Ohio primary, he called for a "reopening" of the trade pact's terms. This week, he called his own primary rhetoric "overheated" and said NAFTA has had a positive effect on the US economy.
• Yesterday, after signaling opposition to nuclear power, he told Democratic governors he's open to expanding it."
There are many, many other examples, some of which I've noted in prior posts. Change we can believe in? No, change we can count on, because as soon as he takes a position, we can count on the fact he's going to change it in front of the next audience.
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roseofsharon: Of course, its a free world!! But there are those that work on the basis that what we have been encountering in recent times, i.e. terrorists threats and the like, has been probably generations, if not thousands of years in the making. There is a belief that it is achievable through, firstly, infiltration and, subsequently, manipulation....??
I dunno.... you tell me??!!
I dunno.... you tell me??!!
plz elaborate
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I Really like the views n counter views on this thread ...infact on any thread that is related to the US political scene ..but i would really appreciate n be thankful if the ppl post the link of the source also.
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pyaremohan: plz elaborate
Sorry, I thought that was perfectly comprehensive?? Please tell me which bit you don't understand...??
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roseofsharon: Sorry, I thought that was perfectly comprehensive?? Please tell me which bit you don't understand...??
never meant any offence.........nothin after ofcourse its a free world
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