Spiritual, not Religious. What does this mean to you? (52)
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being religious can be likened to saying that you are a church-goer...just a church-goer.you sit in church pretending to like the sermon.sticking with convention.
spiritual on the other hand means that you put your heart into it. there's no specific place for communication with as you call it, a higher power...i call Him God.
being religious can be likened to saying that you are a church-goer...just a church-goer.you sit in church pretending to like the sermon.sticking with convention.
spiritual on the other hand means that you put your heart into it. there's no specific place for communication with as you call it, a higher power...i call Him God.
ArticBloom: It's very simple: Religion is for those who are scared of going to hell and spiritualism is for people who have been there.
Spiritualism is being in touch with your self and religion is doing what other people want you to believe.
Spiritualism is being in touch with your self and religion is doing what other people want you to believe.
Simplistic answer yes, but people who are spirituaal, pagan or religious all share one belief - that there is a higher power. They just dont what form it takes (Mother Nature, Balor, God, Allah, whatever) or whether it is always benevolent.
No distespect to ArticBloom, but being "in touch with yourself" sounds very close to me to the individualism, me fein attitude that pervades society.
Peter
Galwayman2008:
No distespect to ArticBloom, but being "in touch with yourself" sounds very close to me to the individualism, me fein attitude that pervades society.
No distespect to ArticBloom, but being "in touch with yourself" sounds very close to me to the individualism, me fein attitude that pervades society.
I think if more people were in "touch with themselves" and made their own informed decisions based on their own intuitions/beliefs/knowledge they would be less likely to just jump on whatever bandwagon is around at the time.
Take catholic/protestant divide in the North for example. For generations bigotry was taught and handed down through families, schools, churches etc.
In recent times people have started "rebel" (for want of a better word) and think for themselves. They have started to decide that what they were brought up to believe is not necessarily right. The few brave ones have opened up a whole new way of thinking.
Hi Wexlady
I agree, Irish people need to think for themselves and its good that they have rejected the abusive role that figures of authority in Ireland have had for too long (such as the catholic church, the medical profession, the gardai).
But I wonder are we confusing the value of people to think for themselves with the value of people having a value system which is based on some religioss/ spritiual belief system. I dont care why people care for others, but I do care that they do (or else the society we live in suffers).
Peter
I agree, Irish people need to think for themselves and its good that they have rejected the abusive role that figures of authority in Ireland have had for too long (such as the catholic church, the medical profession, the gardai).
But I wonder are we confusing the value of people to think for themselves with the value of people having a value system which is based on some religioss/ spritiual belief system. I dont care why people care for others, but I do care that they do (or else the society we live in suffers).
Peter
We are spiritual beings having a human experience, not human beings trying to have a spiritual experience.
"Spiritual, not Religious. What does this mean to you?"
To me they are both the same it's just one tends to be used to discribe someone that is a little less conventional
To me they are both the same it's just one tends to be used to discribe someone that is a little less conventional
ArticBloom: It's very simple: Religion is for those who are scared of going to hell and spiritualism is for people who have been there.
Spiritualism is being in touch with your self and religion is doing what other people want you to believe.
Spiritualism is being in touch with your self and religion is doing what other people want you to believe.
I hate to niy pick but spiritualism and spiritual are 2 different words
spiritualism is a religion it is the belief or doctrine that the spirits of the dead, surviving after the mortal life, can and do communicate with the living, esp. through a person (a medium) particularly susceptible to their influence.
It's actually just one of those terms people use to seemingly sound cool. It's so cliched like "soulmate" & "life partner"
I think Antony De Mello expressed it best when he said...
To be religious is to follow the light, to be spiritual is to become the light
or words to that effect (can't remember the EXACT quote).
That's to say, whereas a religious person follows the faith and belief of their religion, the spiritual person has a more individual belief, which they themselves have developed during their life.
Which is better is a matter for each person to decide for themselves. BTW, I'm the spiritual one.
To be religious is to follow the light, to be spiritual is to become the light
or words to that effect (can't remember the EXACT quote).
That's to say, whereas a religious person follows the faith and belief of their religion, the spiritual person has a more individual belief, which they themselves have developed during their life.
Which is better is a matter for each person to decide for themselves. BTW, I'm the spiritual one.
In response to: I asked my 16 yr old son about this last night. He made an interesting observation. He pointed out that Buddhists are technically Atheists but they are both religious and spiritual at the same time.
Must learn more about Buddhism to see if he is right.
No doubt he will do some research today and turn all my theories upside down.
Must learn more about Buddhism to see if he is right.
No doubt he will do some research today and turn all my theories upside down.
This is a very interesting point and one I have not seen before. I wonder is it the ritualistic side of Buddhists that is considered religious and the belief system that is considered Spiritual, would seem so.
In response to: It's actually just one of those terms people use to seemingly sound cool. It's so cliched like "soulmate" & "life partner"
I don't think there is anything cliched about having a "Soulmate" or "life partner".
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Must learn more about Buddhism to see if he is right.
No doubt he will do some research today and turn all my theories upside down.