Big Brother May Be Listening To You (33)
I disagree with them, as until they can make sure that everything recorded is totally secure, anyone could be watching them, and uploading it to the Internet.
Nothing is unhackable, so it would only be a matter of time before it's 'broken'.
Nothing is unhackable, so it would only be a matter of time before it's 'broken'.
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Intrusive 
Maybe peeps having a claassified convo could scribble notes to each other
Maybe peeps having a claassified convo could scribble notes to each other
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Ridiculous. Whatever next? Buses, trains? Where would it end?
No doubt fares would go up to cover the cost. Not only is your privacy invaded, you pay for the privilege
Like you said, nothing's unhackable. You'd have thought lessons would have been learnt through eaves dropping
No doubt fares would go up to cover the cost. Not only is your privacy invaded, you pay for the privilege
Like you said, nothing's unhackable. You'd have thought lessons would have been learnt through eaves dropping
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Safe to talk I take it.. 
Okay, here's the gen, I think it will never happen.. will have to be approved by cllrs first on committee and boy do they use black cabs a lot!! Could result in many a top official being caught in a compromising situation and of all places Oxford!! Nope, it will not get passed, might just be a vote winner for someone in a local election though..
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xxLilyxx: Ridiculous. Whatever next? Buses, trains? Where would it end?
No doubt fares would go up to cover the cost. Not only is your privacy invaded, you pay for the privilege
Like you said, nothing's unhackable. You'd have thought lessons would have been learnt through eaves dropping
No doubt fares would go up to cover the cost. Not only is your privacy invaded, you pay for the privilege
Like you said, nothing's unhackable. You'd have thought lessons would have been learnt through eaves dropping
The UK has enough CCTV as it is. There's a figure somewhere Online, that mentions that on average, we're filmed pretty much most of the time, when we're outside of our own homes.
Only a matter of time, before the filming, becomes listening as well.
George Orwell may have had good foresight with regards to Big Brother and the Greater Good.
Eavesdrop on our every move, and we all become subdued into being sheep
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My foil Hat seemed to do the trick after I removed my fillings.
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cynicalorange: From Sky News:
A plan to record all conversations in taxis licensed by a city council has brought complaints that the scheme is a "staggering invasion of privacy".
Oxford City Council wants to ensure all of its 600-plus cabs are fitted with at least one CCTV camera to record every word uttered by passengers.
If the plans are approved, all conversations in taxis will be recorded from once the engine is running until 30 minutes after the ignition is switched off.
But civil liberties campaign group Big Brother Watch has hit out at the proposals and pledged to complain to the Information Commissioner.
Nick Pickles, the group's director, said: "This is a staggering invasion of privacy, being done with no evidence, no consultation and a total disregard for civil liberties.
"Big Brother now has big ears, and they are eavesdropping on your conversations with absolutely no justification."
"Given that one rail route to Witney is through Oxford, we'll be letting the Prime Minister know that his staff might want to avoid using Oxford cabs."
A spokeswoman for Oxford City Council said the new CCTV rules for taxis "would mean that video and audio would run all the time within the vehicle".
"There are laws in place (data protection, human rights, CCTV code of practice) that require the viewing of such images to be necessary and proportionate, and therefore must relate to a specific complaint/incident/investigation," she said.
"The officers are not permitted to view any images that do not relate to the actual matter being investigated.
"The risk of intrusion into private conversations has to be balanced against the interests of public safety, both of passengers and drivers."
She added that clear notices would inform passengers they were being recorded and that the recordings will be encrypted and only accessible in the event of an investigation.
The cost of installing the CCTV system with one camera is around £400 and there are currently 107 black cabs and 545 private hire vehicles in the city.
How do you feel about that?
A plan to record all conversations in taxis licensed by a city council has brought complaints that the scheme is a "staggering invasion of privacy".
Oxford City Council wants to ensure all of its 600-plus cabs are fitted with at least one CCTV camera to record every word uttered by passengers.
If the plans are approved, all conversations in taxis will be recorded from once the engine is running until 30 minutes after the ignition is switched off.
But civil liberties campaign group Big Brother Watch has hit out at the proposals and pledged to complain to the Information Commissioner.
Nick Pickles, the group's director, said: "This is a staggering invasion of privacy, being done with no evidence, no consultation and a total disregard for civil liberties.
"Big Brother now has big ears, and they are eavesdropping on your conversations with absolutely no justification."
"Given that one rail route to Witney is through Oxford, we'll be letting the Prime Minister know that his staff might want to avoid using Oxford cabs."
A spokeswoman for Oxford City Council said the new CCTV rules for taxis "would mean that video and audio would run all the time within the vehicle".
"There are laws in place (data protection, human rights, CCTV code of practice) that require the viewing of such images to be necessary and proportionate, and therefore must relate to a specific complaint/incident/investigation," she said.
"The officers are not permitted to view any images that do not relate to the actual matter being investigated.
"The risk of intrusion into private conversations has to be balanced against the interests of public safety, both of passengers and drivers."
She added that clear notices would inform passengers they were being recorded and that the recordings will be encrypted and only accessible in the event of an investigation.
The cost of installing the CCTV system with one camera is around £400 and there are currently 107 black cabs and 545 private hire vehicles in the city.
How do you feel about that?
Look at Tesco.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/migrationtemp/2807681/Tesco-Europes-biggest-property-company.html
They suppy primary needs such as food, clothes and housing. They supply addictions such as alcohol and cigarettes. The supply medicines, communication equipment and financial packages.
And they collect information about you with their Clubcard scheme.
However much you encript information from CCTV, what if a large company were to own that information along with the ability to decode it?
However much legislation you put into place to protect privacy rights, once you've instituted a system to collect information and it becomes accepted as the norm, you can sneakily, or even openly change legislation if you have enough power to do so.
What if you have a system where a very few people have control over people's food, clothes, housing, addictions, communications, medications and their private conversations and behaviours?
You've got the infrastructure for a dictatorship.
Having been raised by someone who had their formative years in wartime Germany, forgive me if that makes me a little edgy.
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Yash124g: Safe to talk I take it..
Okay, here's the gen, I think it will never happen.. will have to be approved by cllrs first on committee and boy do they use black cabs a lot!! Could result in many a top official being caught in a compromising situation and of all places Oxford!! Nope, it will not get passed, might just be a vote winner for someone in a local election though..
Okay, here's the gen, I think it will never happen.. will have to be approved by cllrs first on committee and boy do they use black cabs a lot!! Could result in many a top official being caught in a compromising situation and of all places Oxford!! Nope, it will not get passed, might just be a vote winner for someone in a local election though..
Unless there's a motivation for travelling silently, or making other arrangements.
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xxLilyxx: Ridiculous. Whatever next? Buses, trains? Where would it end?
No doubt fares would go up to cover the cost. Not only is your privacy invaded, you pay for the privilege
Like you said, nothing's unhackable. You'd have thought lessons would have been learnt through eaves dropping
No doubt fares would go up to cover the cost. Not only is your privacy invaded, you pay for the privilege
Like you said, nothing's unhackable. You'd have thought lessons would have been learnt through eaves dropping
Errr...they already have CCTV cameras on trains and buses. I have no idea if they have sound, or not. How could I?
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jac379: Unless there's a motivation for travelling silently, or making other arrangements.
Unfortunately, time is a crucial factor. Councillors attend many different types of committee's and on a relatively frequent basis the committee will have to conduct a site visit before reconvening again and making a decision or requesting further details on a particular point, (Committee members are also rotated, so getting the same members to make a decision can result in delays due to date clashes in their diaries).
Taxi's play a good role in acheiving this, though if it is known a site visit is expected then I think most will look to use a council vehicle rather than a taxi.
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jac379: Look at Tesco.
They suppy primary needs such as food, clothes and housing. They supply addictions such as alcohol and cigarettes. The supply medicines, communication equipment and financial packages.
And they collect information about you with their Clubcard scheme.
However much you encript information from CCTV, what if a large company were to own that information along with the ability to decode it?
However much legislation you put into place to protect privacy rights, once you've instituted a system to collect information and it becomes accepted as the norm, you can sneakily, or even openly change legislation if you have enough power to do so.
What if you have a system where a very few people have control over people's food, clothes, housing, addictions, communications, medications and their private conversations and behaviours?
You've got the infrastructure for a dictatorship.
Having been raised by someone who had their formative years in wartime Germany, forgive me if that makes me a little edgy.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/migrationtemp/2807681/Tesco-Europes-biggest-property-company.html
They suppy primary needs such as food, clothes and housing. They supply addictions such as alcohol and cigarettes. The supply medicines, communication equipment and financial packages.
And they collect information about you with their Clubcard scheme.
However much you encript information from CCTV, what if a large company were to own that information along with the ability to decode it?
However much legislation you put into place to protect privacy rights, once you've instituted a system to collect information and it becomes accepted as the norm, you can sneakily, or even openly change legislation if you have enough power to do so.
What if you have a system where a very few people have control over people's food, clothes, housing, addictions, communications, medications and their private conversations and behaviours?
You've got the infrastructure for a dictatorship.
Having been raised by someone who had their formative years in wartime Germany, forgive me if that makes me a little edgy.
Good post, and raises another point about the information we share willingly.
Facebook.
We tell more about our social and personal life than we'd be happy telling a stranger. Yet, it's all in a database. Some people have stuff on there, that they wouldn't even let their children see.
Also, even Google is aware of our habits. From what we look at Online, to where we shop and even our basic routine. If you're an Android mobile phone user, they know where you are, and what apps you use on the phone, and even your sleeping pattern. Most of us turn our phones off at night, so they know even that.
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ah whatever let em do what they want as long as they dont mind overhearing my plot for world domination lol....it is a joke really and i really dont know what they are setting out to achieve doing it besides piss a lot of people off.
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cynicalorange: Good post, and raises another point about the information we share willingly.
Facebook.
We tell more about our social and personal life than we'd be happy telling a stranger. Yet, it's all in a database. Some people have stuff on there, that they wouldn't even let their children see.
Also, even Google is aware of our habits. From what we look at Online, to where we shop and even our basic routine. If you're an Android mobile phone user, they know where you are, and what apps you use on the phone, and even your sleeping pattern. Most of us turn our phones off at night, so they know even that.
Facebook.
We tell more about our social and personal life than we'd be happy telling a stranger. Yet, it's all in a database. Some people have stuff on there, that they wouldn't even let their children see.
Also, even Google is aware of our habits. From what we look at Online, to where we shop and even our basic routine. If you're an Android mobile phone user, they know where you are, and what apps you use on the phone, and even your sleeping pattern. Most of us turn our phones off at night, so they know even that.
I would just like the state to know that I didn't really finger that penguin.
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There's no such thing as "Privacy" any more.....
Eyes in the skies, satellites that can actually see through your windows!
Eyes in the skies, satellites that can actually see through your windows!
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EssJay: There's no such thing as "Privacy" any more.....
Eyes in the skies, satellites that can actually see through your windows!
Eyes in the skies, satellites that can actually see through your windows!
But not through clothing..
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Yash124g: But not through clothing..
Get a job in airport security, Yash.
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jac379: Look at Tesco.
Oh well I'm definately in deep poo poo then.
They have been delivering my shopping since major surgery in March.
I for one am truly grateful I have to say,and the service is excellent.
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bestbefore: Oh well I'm definately in deep poo poo then.
They have been delivering my shopping since major surgery in March.
I for one am truly grateful I have to say,and the service is excellent.
They have been delivering my shopping since major surgery in March.
I for one am truly grateful I have to say,and the service is excellent.
I don't doubt for one minute that the service is excellent and I'm glad you have that facility which enables you to retain your independance.
Its an excellent business idea.
Why does it mean you're in deep poo?
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jac379: Get a job in airport security, Yash.
Already done that, its why I'm on civvy street now!!
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6 parking tickets in 8 weeks 
not just the parking officers you have to avoid, it is the eye in the sky, 2 of the tickets I was caught on camera, once with a tyre on the kerb and another beached in a box junction 
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jac379: I don't doubt for one minute that the service is excellent and I'm glad you have that facility which enables you to retain your independance.
Its an excellent business idea.
Why does it mean you're in deep poo?
Its an excellent business idea.
Why does it mean you're in deep poo?
Because of previous comment below.
[And they collect information about you with their Clubcard scheme.]
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bestbefore: Because of previous comment below.
[And they collect information about you with their Clubcard scheme.]
[And they collect information about you with their Clubcard scheme.]
I use it too for the dosh you get back, but I don't know that I'd want to use their financial/communication packages and generally have all my eggs in one basket. I don't know that any coupons I might get back are worth going beyond them knowing about the groceries I prefer to buy.
We're not in the poo unless something changes in the system, but we are accepting, we're helping to create a system that could be used to control us at a later date.
That's a lot of trust to put into people who are in power positions. Given how distrustful we can be of the people behind the profiles on a dating website, that's a little incongruous, I feel.
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I go to harrods........
(diplomatic..immun)
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trueheart1941: I go to harrods........ (diplomatic..immun)
Then you are being watched for sure. The previous owner of that store, was being watched. It would be safe to say, they watched you as well
Besides, with the crap they sell at those prices, there's more security in the store than in Debenhams
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jac379: I would just like the state to know that I didn't really finger that penguin.
The puffin on the other hand...
Ooooh, see what I did there
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cynicalorange: The puffin on the other hand...
Ooooh, see what I did there
Ooooh, see what I did there
Yes! I see what you did there!
Commited the crime of libel.
There's no truth in the rumours, I tell ya.
(And it wasn't me who gaffer taped their beaks closed, either. Honest.)
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trueheart1941: I go to harrods........ (diplomatic..immun)
Diplomatic immunity?
Is that where you pretend to be a posh person?
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jac379: Yes! I see what you did there!
Commited the crime of libel.
There's no truth in the rumours, I tell ya.
(And it wasn't me who gaffer taped their beaks closed, either. Honest.)
Commited the crime of libel.
There's no truth in the rumours, I tell ya.
(And it wasn't me who gaffer taped their beaks closed, either. Honest.)
Ah, it couldn't have been you. The beaks were duck taped closed
Send the bill for the libel case to my solicitor:
Ms R. Obin
I Nest hill
Eggseter
I did it again...
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cynicalorange: I did it again...
Right Miss, you do not have to say anything but it may harm your defense if you do not answer in question something you later rely in court anything you do say may be given in evidence 
However, if you can give informtation on Micky's nightclub to DC TC, then all these charges can dissappear..
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Yash124g: Right Miss, you do not have to say anything but it may harm your defense if you do not answer in question something you later rely in court anything you do say may be given in evidence
However, if you can give informtation on Micky's nightclub to DC TC, then all these charges can dissappear..
However, if you can give informtation on Micky's nightclub to DC TC, then all these charges can dissappear..
The owner of the Club has gone to ground,and hasn't been seen for some time now.
Think he was caught flshing with his pole.
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Big Brother May Be Listening To You(Vote Below)
A plan to record all conversations in taxis licensed by a city council has brought complaints that the scheme is a "staggering invasion of privacy".
Oxford City Council wants to ensure all of its 600-plus cabs are fitted with at least one CCTV camera to record every word uttered by passengers.
If the plans are approved, all conversations in taxis will be recorded from once the engine is running until 30 minutes after the ignition is switched off.
But civil liberties campaign group Big Brother Watch has hit out at the proposals and pledged to complain to the Information Commissioner.
Nick Pickles, the group's director, said: "This is a staggering invasion of privacy, being done with no evidence, no consultation and a total disregard for civil liberties.
"Big Brother now has big ears, and they are eavesdropping on your conversations with absolutely no justification."
"Given that one rail route to Witney is through Oxford, we'll be letting the Prime Minister know that his staff might want to avoid using Oxford cabs."
A spokeswoman for Oxford City Council said the new CCTV rules for taxis "would mean that video and audio would run all the time within the vehicle".
"There are laws in place (data protection, human rights, CCTV code of practice) that require the viewing of such images to be necessary and proportionate, and therefore must relate to a specific complaint/incident/investigation," she said.
"The officers are not permitted to view any images that do not relate to the actual matter being investigated.
"The risk of intrusion into private conversations has to be balanced against the interests of public safety, both of passengers and drivers."
She added that clear notices would inform passengers they were being recorded and that the recordings will be encrypted and only accessible in the event of an investigation.
The cost of installing the CCTV system with one camera is around £400 and there are currently 107 black cabs and 545 private hire vehicles in the city.
How do you feel about that?