Should Irish unemployed be made to do community work etc for their benefits? (83)
trueheart1941: ....the Irish ....are not lazy.....and are the least to ask for help........because they are not afraid to work......
Hey True..how is ya...alll is well I hope...
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Hi Rohaan,
I agree, it is easier to find work if you are already working, whether in a paid job or volunteering. But the point about volunteering is that it is just that VOLUNTARY. I don't think anyone can be forced to do it. But any smart person will know that when jobs are hard to find, you are better off being active and making yourself useful. It can only help make you more employable.
I agree, it is easier to find work if you are already working, whether in a paid job or volunteering. But the point about volunteering is that it is just that VOLUNTARY. I don't think anyone can be forced to do it. But any smart person will know that when jobs are hard to find, you are better off being active and making yourself useful. It can only help make you more employable.
rohaan: Hi Sunnydaze--this column caught my eye. Studies do seem to indicate that it is easier, or at least less stressful, to find meaningful work while already working, even if that work is just volunteer or part-time. From time to time (here in the U.S.) the complaint from state unemployment service is that if you have time to do volunteer work then you could be working---which is of course not entirely true. Still, I can see where a person could lose their momentum; their ambition, if moping around at home instead of getting out there and vollying at SOMETHING. JMO
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pops666: Hey True..how is ya...alll is well I hope...
hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. pops......good thanks....
you fat git...........
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trueheart1941: ....the Irish ....are not lazy.....and are the least to ask for help........because they are not afraid to work......
True, True 
But unfortunately there is a serious lack of jobs here right now, and a lot of young people are leaving the country to find work elsewhere
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trueheart1941: hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. pops......good thanks.... you fat git...........
Well ya old dog ya...
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bow/wow/bow/wow pops666: Well ya old dog ya... ...not fault you fogot where you put your bone
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patmac: One question Community work ??
Does that mean cleaning up the locl area or community gardens etc....Not a bad Idea,but what about the folk employed to do the very job these folk would be doing.
A lot of the work that we could have "the unemployed " doing is already being done and we do have a danger of actually increasing the unemployment figures.
That is only one argument against. Probably a lot more as well.
However I am FOR the OP's idea but it has to be done in such a way that no person loses their employment to someone on a scheme like this.
A lot of safeguards would need to be put in place to stop employers using or effectively misusing the system. Sad fact of life that busnesses could be undercut and have to lay folk off in a lot of the areas these folk would work.
But I would back an effective scheme as long as all the safeguards were in place.
Does that mean cleaning up the locl area or community gardens etc....Not a bad Idea,but what about the folk employed to do the very job these folk would be doing.
A lot of the work that we could have "the unemployed " doing is already being done and we do have a danger of actually increasing the unemployment figures.
That is only one argument against. Probably a lot more as well.
However I am FOR the OP's idea but it has to be done in such a way that no person loses their employment to someone on a scheme like this.
A lot of safeguards would need to be put in place to stop employers using or effectively misusing the system. Sad fact of life that busnesses could be undercut and have to lay folk off in a lot of the areas these folk would work.
But I would back an effective scheme as long as all the safeguards were in place.
Hi Pat,
Yes, I agree with what you said. It could create problems for people already doing the work and have the effect of lowering the going rate for the job. It would have to be some kind of community work that is currently being neglected and not being done by anybody.
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trueheart1941: bow/wow/bow/wow
who let the dogs out?
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Sunnydaze14: True, True
But unfortunately there is a serious lack of jobs here right now, and a lot of young people are leaving the country to find work elsewhere
hi ..sunny....thats true ....all people ...where ever you come from are looking for work......a shame really no matter how many levels you have.......But unfortunately there is a serious lack of jobs here right now, and a lot of young people are leaving the country to find work elsewhere
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Sunnydaze14: who let the dogs out?
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trueheart1941: ....dont worry about pop,s.......
Msg for ya
best not bieng dressed up as fire hydrant anymore True ------ This poll is Archived ------
pops666: Well it's about time...you finally acknowledge my accomplishments Damm good mate you are
look ...mate without you.....life .would be very dull......
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trueheart1941: look ...mate without you.....life .would be very dull......
Thanx True...Sorry OP for hijack...back to you
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trueheart1941: look ...mate without you.....life .would be very dull......
oh you two, get a room!
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trueheart1941: ..fogive me father........for they no not what they do......
And a FINE time for you to be taking a coffee break, then 
(!)
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rohaan: And a FINE time for you to be taking a coffee break, then (!)
Oh I guess that's Paddy on HIS coffee break. Well, the same goes for you, too, Buster!
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rohaan: And a FINE time for you to be taking a coffee break, then (!)
god ...said man should work 6 days....but rest on the seventh........
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Sunnydaze14: oh you two, get a room!
Hey Sunny
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Sunnydaze14: oh you two, get a room!
...will you come along........ ...you know you want to.........
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trueheart1941: god ...said man should work 6 days....but rest on the seventh........
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There is only so much community work you can do. They are poor not criminals. Why are you wanting to punish people for being out of work?
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Looking4Quality: I have only been unemployed once and I hated it I eventually started doing voluntary work and I much prefered it. I think getting out and helping in the community for social welfare would be great for everyone.
Ok , so I have been a taxpayer and grumbled (as ye do) but I'd much rather be a taxpayer again than be unemployed as I am and yes I'd do some form of voluntary work but there's also those who are unemployed because they choose to be unemployed who while their days away in the pubs/bookies and at home popping out kids that otherwise would have no means to support morally or financially and they milk the system for all it can give them . Those should be actively be 'encouraged' to get their finger out .------ This poll is Archived ------
maryrachelle: There is only so much community work you can do. They are poor not criminals. Why are you wanting to punish people for being out of work?
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Looking4Quality: Should Irish unemployed be made to do community work etc for their benefits?
Yes, here in France there is a lot of community work that needs to be done, but due to corruption and waste there is never any money left to do it with.
Temporarily importing unemployed Irishmen and making them do such tasks would be a great solution.
Thanks for the offer. How many can you send?
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maryrachelle: There is only so much community work you can do. They are poor not criminals. Why are you wanting to punish people for being out of work?
rohaan: My sentiments too
Why would you see it as punishment ?
I don't see it as punishment. Certainly there would be a lot of factors to consider and overcome but I see it as being doable and it could lead to a lot of good in people's communities.
It may also give long term unemployed some self respect
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RayfromUSA: Yes, here in France there is a lot of community work that needs to be done, but due to corruption and waste there is never any money left to do it with.
Temporarily importing unemployed Irishmen and making them do such tasks would be a great solution.
Thanks for the offer. How many can you send?
Temporarily importing unemployed Irishmen and making them do such tasks would be a great solution.
Thanks for the offer. How many can you send?
how much are you paying?
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I think its good synergy. It will help unemployed peeps feel useful and meaningfull and god knows volunteer agencies always need help. Often Volunteer work leads to employment so overall I think it would be good within reason 
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Sunnydaze14: how much are you paying?
????Paying?????
If there was any pay involved we wouldn't need the Irishmen.
Even the French work when they get paid. (sort of)
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No...if community work is needed then employ people to do it...that would be fairer .many people on social benefit are not fit to work. Give people a reason to get off the social benefit by offering wages that is better then social benefit is the road forward.
(According to my friend who is a single mother) It is no point for a single mother to work...by the time she has paid for all her expenses she is better of not working because she have more money left over at the end of the week when she get social benefit and all the other allowances.......thats just sad in my opinion. She wants to work but the way the society function does not inspire anyone like her to go to work.
(According to my friend who is a single mother) It is no point for a single mother to work...by the time she has paid for all her expenses she is better of not working because she have more money left over at the end of the week when she get social benefit and all the other allowances.......thats just sad in my opinion. She wants to work but the way the society function does not inspire anyone like her to go to work.
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