WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF ( Archived) (10)

Jul 14, 2012 4:13 AM CSTWHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF
MarsMan
MarsManMarsManBobbing along, Cork, Ireland29 Threads 8 Polls 981 Posts

WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF(Vote Below)

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Is believing more powerful than provable truth?
22
40%
Is provable truth more powerful than belief?
33
60%
Total Votes
55
I have my own opinion, which I will give later on, after a good few votes have been cast. Just interested to see which way people will vote.
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Jul 14, 2012 4:22 AM CST WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF
MermaidDreams
MermaidDreamsMermaidDreamsOffaly, Ireland1 Threads 1 Polls 800 Posts
MarsMan: I have my own opinion, which I will give later on, after a good few votes have been cast. Just interested to see which way people will vote.


I chose 'is provable truth more powerful than belief' because well, if the facts are there and they've been proven, how can you deny them?
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Jul 14, 2012 4:23 AM CST WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF
belief all they way
i believe i am a handsome devil
while the truth is i am a ugly sod
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Jul 14, 2012 4:24 AM CST WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF
TEASE
TEASETEASETIPPERARY, Tipperary Ireland116 Threads 1 Polls 2,679 Posts
MarsMan: I have my own opinion, which I will give later on, after a good few votes have been cast. Just interested to see which way people will vote.


Yes wave
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Jul 14, 2012 4:28 AM CST WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF
MarsMan
MarsManMarsManBobbing along, Cork Ireland29 Threads 8 Polls 981 Posts
MermaidDreams: I chose 'is provable truth more powerful than belief' because well, if the facts are there and they've been proven, how can you deny them?


But think about it....how many people do you know who will totally ignore all and any facts that are contrary to their firmly held religious/political/social/life style beliefs?
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Jul 14, 2012 4:31 AM CST WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF
MermaidDreams
MermaidDreamsMermaidDreamsOffaly, Ireland1 Threads 1 Polls 800 Posts
MarsMan: But think about it....how many people do you know who will totally ignore all and any facts that are contrary to their firmly held religious/political/social/life style beliefs?


One. More's the pity. But he doesn't matter!!

I respect what you say but I still feel the same way :)
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Jul 14, 2012 5:39 AM CST WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
MarsMan: I have my own opinion, which I will give later on, after a good few votes have been cast. Just interested to see which way people will vote.


I guess it's different for people depending on one's view of the world and some people make square pegs fit into round holes to justify their belief or existence or motivations.

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Jul 15, 2012 5:00 AM CST WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
MarsMan: WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF


What people believe depends on a great many factors; how credible they feel the source of the story is, how much critical thinking they use (if any), how skilled the teller is at lying, how gullible the listener is... etc.

Take the mass media for instance. We are served up the credible 'personalities' who dish out a version of events far removed from reality. This recent article from the Gurardian (link) exposing the propaganda about Syria being an example. Ask most people, they believe the US & Co. are concerned about the 'Syrian People' and that the 'Good Guys' are being killed by the evil Syrian Army. Would it shock the gullible public to know that the Free Syrian Army are a gang of torturers, rapists and murdrers and that all the dead women and children you see RTE newsreaders solemnly lamenting with their 'unverified' news sources were in fact killed by 'our good friends'. Belief that all is well with the world and thar those in authority have our best interests at heart is a way of avoiding such uncomfortable truth.

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Jul 15, 2012 5:39 AM CST WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF
whitepaws
whitepawswhitepawsDock of the bay, Galway Ireland24 Threads 4 Polls 459 Posts
I think you need to have faith that the person who told you its the truth is worth believing

so if you think there telling the truth you can believe them

if you dont believe them then it doesnt matter if their teling the truth or not as you wont believe it
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Jul 15, 2012 11:05 AM CST WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
whitepaws: I think you need to have faith that the person who told you its the truth is worth believing

so if you think there telling the truth you can believe them

if you dont believe them then it doesnt matter if their teling the truth or not as you wont believe it


Correct, the source must only credible but not necessarily true if you accept what they say based on their gained credibility. That's why we have the same newsreaders and talk show hosts all the time. They are deemed to be credible with most of the public. They can sell the lie. Nobody will critically analyse what they say to see if it is reliable or not. No need to. Just read the headlines and that's the news. Nothing behind the curtain. You know what's happening in the world and if anyone asks your opinion you can give one of the versions they have downloaded into your docile mind and even believe it to be your own idea. Now go watch sports or X Factor and sure have a few pints everything will be grand... laugh
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Jul 16, 2012 3:26 PM CST WHICH IS STRONGER: TRUTH Vs BELIEF
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
MermaidDreams: One. More's the pity. But he doesn't matter!!

I respect what you say but I still feel the same way :)


Beliefs exists because truth is not evident, of course.thumbs up
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