Due to heavy money spending in Afghanistan the western countries are facing economic problems such as un employment,bank defaulter and IMF threats.Now they are leaving from afghanistan with empty hand only caused casualties of peoples including their ones as well
Jack68: Due to heavy money spending in Afghanistan the western countries are facing economic problems such as un employment,bank defaulter and IMF threats.Now they are leaving from afghanistan with empty hand only caused casualties of peoples including their ones as well
That's right Jack and here's why Afghanistan has so much money to spend.
It was in the news today that CIA has given bags of $ to corrupt afghan president Karzai durring the last few year and Karzai big stomach has diggested all of them
Jack68: Due to heavy money spending in Afghanistan the western countries are facing economic problems such as un employment,bank defaulter and IMF threats.Now they are leaving from afghanistan with empty hand only caused casualties of peoples including their ones as well
The war hasn't helped with the debt, but it isn't the reason why Western economies are no longer materially resourceful. The responsiblity for which can only be traced back to the youth of the 1960's who felt that wealth, serenity and happiness simply fell down from the sky, those whom felt that prosperity was something to be demanded and expected as opposed to something that is earned and worked for.
(Reuters) - Tens of millions of U.S. dollars in cash were delivered by the CIA in suitcases, backpacks and plastic shopping bags to the office of Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai for more than a decade, the New York Times says, citing current and former advisers to the Afghan leader.
The so-called "ghost money" was meant to buy influence for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) but instead fuelled corruption and empowered warlords, undermining Washington's exit strategy from Afghanistan, the newspaper quoted U.S. officials as saying.
"The biggest source of corruption in Afghanistan", one American official said, "was the United States."
The CIA declined to comment on the report and the U.S. State Department did not immediately comment. The New York Times did not publish any comment from Karzai or his office.
"We called it 'ghost money'," Khalil Roman, who served as Karzai's chief of staff from 2002 until 2005, told the New York Times. "It came in secret and it left in secret."
There was no evidence that Karzai personally received any of the money, Afghan officials told the newspaper. The cash was handled by his National Security Council, it added.
In response to the report, Karzai told reporters in Helsinki after a meeting with Finnish leaders that the office of the National Security Council had been receiving support from the U.S. government for the past 10 years. He said the amounts had been "not big" and the funds were used for various purposes including assistance for the wounded.
"It's multi-purpose assistance," he said, without commenting on the report's claims the funds fuelled corruption and empowered warlords.
However, Afghan Foreign Ministry spokesman Janan Mosazai told reporters in Kabul that there was no proof or evidence to back up the claims in the story.
For more than a decade the cash was dropped off every month or so at the Afghan president's office, the New York Times said. Handing out cash has been standard procedure for the CIA in Afghanistan since the start of the war.
The cash payments to the president's office do not appear to be subject to oversight and restrictions placed on official American aid to the country or the CIA's formal assistance programs, like financing Afghan intelligence agencies, and do not appear to violate U.S. laws, said the New York Times.
U.S. and Afghan officials familiar with the payments were quoted as saying that the main goal in providing the cash was to maintain access to Karzai and his inner circle and to guarantee the CIA's influence at the presidential palace, which wields tremendous power in Afghanistan's highly centralized government.
Much of the money went to warlords and politicians, many with ties to the drug trade and in some cases the Taliban, the New York Times said. U.S. and Afghan officials were quoted as saying the CIA supported the same patronage networks that U.S. diplomats and law enforcement agents struggled to dismantle, leaving the government in the grip of organized crime.
Nahid Fareed, a member of parliament from western Herat province, who usually supports Karzai's government, said the claims in the story represented a "serious issue".
"Any hidden money that the palace receives from indirect channels, such as spy agencies, notably the CIA, is against national interest and is treason," Fareed told Reuters.
In 2010, Karzai said his office received cash in bags from Iran, but that it was a transparent form of aid that helped cover expenses at the presidential palace. He said at the time that the United States made similar payments.
The latest New York Times report said much of the Iranian cash, like the CIA money, went to pay warlords and politicians.
For most of Karzai's 11-year reign, there has been little interest in anti-corruption in the army or police. The country's two most powerful institutions receive billions of dollars from donors annually but struggle just to recruit and maintain a force bled by high rates of desertion.
(Additional reporting by Alistair Bell and Sarah Lynch in Washington; Hamid Shalizi and Mirwais Harooni in Kabul; Writing by Michael Perry; Editing by Mark Bendeich and Neil Fullick)
Obstinance_Works: The war hasn't helped with the debt, but it isn't the reason why Western economies are no longer materially resourceful. The responsiblity for which can only be traced back to the youth of the 1960's who felt that wealth, serenity and happiness simply fell down from the sky, those whom felt that prosperity was something to be demanded and expected as opposed to something that is earned and worked for.
Heavy spending going on the war because afghanistan is a land locked country along with other problems in the west i can say as an economist that war has given west a final push in financial crisis
Obstinance_Works: The war hasn't helped with the debt, but it isn't the reason why Western economies are no longer materially resourceful. The responsiblity for which can only be traced back to the youth of the 1960's who felt that wealth, serenity and happiness simply fell down from the sky, those whom felt that prosperity was something to be demanded and expected as opposed to something that is earned and worked for.
yep,what you all need is another Trio of Leaders a la 1930s.
classicboy: ussr invade this country in late 80s and the innocent people killed or migrated or disbaled
usa and allies attacked afghanisation in revenge of 9/11 attacks... do you think is it really should be attacked and destroyed in such way,wheres theres no life and its land is called land of death
do you think,afghanisation and its people have so capacity to involved in terroism,,,when they already are in state of wars and dstruction
who is doing all this and why
Revenge??? What about Taliban? What about general support and popularity of Taliban´s Ideology in Afghanistan among population?
if some foreigners forces invade your land and kill you,what your response will be?,,,,every person on this world would ressit that,,,,that was the ideology only nothing else,,and that was in time of when ussr atatcked this small country for no reason,,can you tell me @flerdelis,,,were there any usma or taliban at that time when soviet froces attacked afghan?
usa and its allies present 9/11,,,,,but who know,,,who is usma and where was it
importantly afghanisation is attacked in search of usma bin laden
Conrad73: The cash payments to the president's office do not appear to be subject to oversight and restrictions placed on official American aid to the country or the CIA's formal assistance programs, like financing Afghan intelligence agencies, and do not appear to violate U.S. laws, said the New York Times.
U.S. and Afghan officials familiar with the payments were quoted as saying that the main goal in providing the cash was to maintain access to Karzai and his inner circle and to guarantee the CIA's influence at the presidential palace, which wields tremendous power in Afghanistan's highly centralized government.
Much of the money went to warlords and politicians, many with ties to the drug trade and in some cases the Taliban, the New York Times said. U.S. and Afghan officials were quoted as saying the CIA supported the same patronage networks that U.S. diplomats and law enforcement agents struggled to dismantle, leaving the government in the grip of organized crime.
Nahid Fareed, a member of parliament from western Herat province, who usually supports Karzai's government, said the claims in the story represented a "serious issue".
"Any hidden money that the palace receives from indirect channels, such as spy agencies, notably the CIA, is against national interest and is treason," Fareed told Reuters.
In 2010, Karzai said his office received cash in bags from Iran, but that it was a transparent form of aid that helped cover expenses at the presidential palace. He said at the time that the United States made similar payments.
The latest New York Times report said much of the Iranian cash, like the CIA money, went to pay warlords and politicians.
For most of Karzai's 11-year reign, there has been little interest in anti-corruption in the army or police. The country's two most powerful institutions receive billions of dollars from donors annually but struggle just to recruit and maintain a force bled by high rates of desertion.
(Additional reporting by Alistair Bell and Sarah Lynch in Washington; Hamid Shalizi and Mirwais Harooni in Kabul; Writing by Michael Perry; Editing by Mark Bendeich and Neil Fullick)
if some foreigners forces invade your land and kill you,what your response will be?,,,,every person on this world would ressit that,,,,that was the ideology only nothing else,,and that was in time of when ussr atatcked this small country for no reason,,can you tell me @flerdelis,,,were there any usma or taliban at that time when soviet froces attacked afghan?
usa and its allies present 9/11,,,,,but who know,,,who is usma and where was it
importantly afghanisation is attacked in search of usma bin laden
but he was preent in pakistani land
do you have evidence in wikipedia now ?
What is your question? If Afghanistan = Afghanisation is really a terrorist state? That is the title of your poll....
Yes, Afghanistan is a country which supports terrorism and dangerous fundamentalistic Afghan Taliban is connected with the most dangerous global militant and terroristic organisation Al-Qaeda.
Conrad73: except that I posted the full Article which looks a bit different from the claims in the Thread!
I usually post the full article and the thread so people can read the thread to see if I made changes to the article but it was long and I didn't want to have to do it in two pages
classicboy: ussr invade this country in late 80s and the innocent people killed or migrated or disbaled
usa and allies attacked afghanisation in revenge of 9/11 attacks
do you think is it really should be attacked and destroyed in such way,wheres theres no life and its land is called land of death
do you think,afghanisation and its people have so capacity to involved in terroism,,,when they already are in state of wars and dstruction
who is doing all this and why
maybe if Pakistan stopped constantly sending Insurgents across the Borders,and stopped sheltering the Taliban-Leaders,seeing how it backfired,by inducing that same Insurgency into Pakistan...............
fleurdelis16: What is your question? If Afghanistan = Afghanisation is really a terrorist state? That is the title of your poll....
Yes, Afghanistan is a country which supports terrorism and dangerous fundamentalistic Afghan Taliban is connected with the most dangerous global militant and terroristic organisation Al-Qaeda.
Any other question?
you are just talking with yourself which you know,,,,no need to ask further questions bcz i didnot get any answer for that,,,so need to waste time
if afgh is atatcked in search of usma bin laden,why usma bin laden was not founded in afghanisation? instead he was found and killed in another land of pakistan
so then why afghnaisation is attacked and what evidence usa and its allies have now for attacking it?
if a land is under influence of war for more than 35 years,,and super powers of world continually invade it and test thier weapons,,,what you expect in such land?
europe was under war for just 15 years ,,and what happend to lativa,poland,gemany including your zech reublic and solvakia...massive killings,,hunargness was there,,,,
Conrad73: yep,what you all need is another Trio of Leaders a la 1930s.
Your individualism has failed us all, not for a little, but possibly for all time. Your self-obsession without creativity, merit or originality has been outpaced and outperformed by better and more organised races in the east. Your individualism is pride before a fall.
It's the irresponsibility of yourselves that has created the conditions where repressions of liberty, the press and all things alien to the Anglo character are liable to arise.
Pakistan in the Role of The Sorcerer's Apprentice.
The Sorcerer's Apprentice By Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
That old sorcerer has vanished And for once has gone away! Spirits called by him, now banished, My commands shall soon obey. Every step and saying That he used, I know, And with sprites obeying My arts I will show.
Flow, flow onward Stretches many Spare not any Water rushing, Ever streaming fully downward Toward the pool in current gushing.
Come, old broomstick, you are needed, Take these rags and wrap them round you! Long my orders you have heeded, By my wishes now I've bound you. Have two legs and stand, And a head for you. Run, and in your hand Hold a bucket too.
Flow, flow onward Stretches many, Spare not any Water rushing, Ever streaming fully downward Toward the pool in current gushing.
See him, toward the shore he's racing There, he's at the stream already, Back like lightning he is chasing, Pouring water fast and steady. Once again he hastens! How the water spills, How the water basins Brimming full he fills!
Stop now, hear me! Ample measure Of your treasure We have gotten! Ah, I see it, dear me, dear me. Master's word I have forgotten!
Ah, the word with which the master Makes the broom a broom once more! Ah, he runs and fetches faster! Be a broomstick as before! Ever new the torrents That by him are fed, Ah, a hundred currents Pour upon my head!
No, no longer Can I please him, I will seize him! That is spiteful! My misgivings grow the stronger. What a mien, his eyes how frightful!
Brood of hell, you're not a mortal! Shall the entire house go under? Over threshold over portal Streams of water rush and thunder. Broom accurst and mean, Who will have his will, Stick that you have been, Once again stand still!
Can I never, Broom, appease you? I will seize you, Hold and whack you, And your ancient wood I'll sever, With a whetted axe I'll crack you.
He returns, more water dragging! Now I'll throw myself upon you! Soon, 0 goblin, you'll be sagging. Crash! The sharp axe has undone you. What a good blow, truly! There, he's split, I see. Hope now rises newly, And my breathing's free.
Woe betide me! Both halves scurry In a hurry, Rise like towers There beside me. Help me, help, eternal powers!
Off they run, till wet and wetter Hall and steps immersed are lying. What a flood that naught can fetter! Lord and master, hear me crying! - Ah, he comes excited. Sir, my need is sore. Spirits that I've cited My commands ignore.
"To the lonely Corner, broom! Hear your doom. As a spirit When he wills, your master only Calls you, then 'tis time to hear it."
The Sorcerer's Apprentice by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Analysis
"The Sorcerer's Apprentice" is one of Goethe's most famous poems. It is made up of fourteen stanzas and is written as a ballad. The poem may be divided up into "dual stanzas" where the first stanza consists of eight lines and is followed by a six line indented stanza. The eight line stanza contains the rhyme scheme ABABCDCD while the six line stanza has varying rhyme schemes. This poem has been made into a movie, a Hitchcock episode, and even Tiny Toons Adventures episode.
"The Sorcerer's Apprentice" is about an old sorcerer leaving behind his apprentice in the shop to do chores. The apprentice then decides to use magic to do the chores for him, but it gets out of hand.
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Afghanisation is really a terroist state?(Vote Below)
usa and allies attacked afghanisation in revenge of 9/11 attacks
do you think is it really should be attacked and destroyed in such way,wheres theres no life and its land is called land of death
do you think,afghanisation and its people have so capacity to involved in terroism,,,when they already are in state of wars and dstruction
who is doing all this and why