Well, down here in East Tennessee, Row vs. Wade is something of a conumdrum - I've even heard it referred to as the great Southeastern Fishing Controversy!
On one hand you have the fisherman (and women!) who consider themselves purists (and don't own boats!) who prefer wading and casting to individual trout. On the other hand you have those who, like me, aren't quite so pure and own drift boats and canoes (but don't own a pair of chest waders!).
Each side has valid points. For instance, some actually claim to enjoy tripping and slipping over rocks the size of a hall closet and wading in freezing water up to their b....ait pails. And others of us prefer to trip over roots and slide down banks in order to then enjoy a peaceful float trip down the river - provided of course that we don't crash into unseen snags or get wiped out of the boat by a low limb!
"Waders" have the advantage of leaving by more or less the same route they came by, while "Rowers" get to see considerably more scenery. (Both sometimes have days when we couldn't catch a fish if someone tossed it in our laps!)
Sadly, the debate has gone on for decades and will likely continue as long as there are trout in the river!
Now, as to the real O.P.: I have absolutely no opinion on this, one way or the other. It simply is none of my business. Not being female, I can't get pregnant and sadly, owing to injuries incurred many years ago, I am incapable of getting anyone pregnant. It simply does not concern me and I have absolutely no business telling others what they should or should not do with their bodies.
The_Kansan: Well, down here in East Tennessee, Row vs. Wade is something of a conumdrum - I've even heard it referred to as the great Southeastern Fishing Controversy!
On one hand you have the fisherman (and women!) who consider themselves purists (and don't own boats!) who prefer wading and casting to individual trout. On the other hand you have those who, like me, aren't quite so pure and own drift boats and canoes (but don't own a pair of chest waders!).
Each side has valid points. For instance, some actually claim to enjoy tripping and slipping over rocks the size of a hall closet and wading in freezing water up to their b....ait pails. And others of us prefer to trip over roots and slide down banks in order to then enjoy a peaceful float trip down the river - provided of course that we don't crash into unseen snags or get wiped out of the boat by a low limb!
"Waders" have the advantage of leaving by more or less the same route they came by, while "Rowers" get to see considerably more scenery. (Both sometimes have days when we couldn't catch a fish if someone tossed it in our laps!)
Sadly, the debate has gone on for decades and will likely continue as long as there are trout in the river!
Now, as to the real O.P.: I have absolutely no opinion on this, one way or the other. It simply is none of my business. Not being female, I can't get pregnant and sadly, owing to injuries incurred many years ago, I am incapable of getting anyone pregnant. It simply does not concern me and I have absolutely no business telling others what they should or should not do with their bodies.
Well the fishing analogy is totally lost on me sorry However I do feel that the issue of killing unborn children concerns both men and women.
The_Kansan: Well, down here in East Tennessee, Row vs. Wade is something of a conumdrum - I've even heard it referred to as the great Southeastern Fishing Controversy!
On one hand you have the fisherman (and women!) who consider themselves purists (and don't own boats!) who prefer wading and casting to individual trout. On the other hand you have those who, like me, aren't quite so pure and own drift boats and canoes (but don't own a pair of chest waders!).
Each side has valid points. For instance, some actually claim to enjoy tripping and slipping over rocks the size of a hall closet and wading in freezing water up to their b....ait pails. And others of us prefer to trip over roots and slide down banks in order to then enjoy a peaceful float trip down the river - provided of course that we don't crash into unseen snags or get wiped out of the boat by a low limb!
"Waders" have the advantage of leaving by more or less the same route they came by, while "Rowers" get to see considerably more scenery. (Both sometimes have days when we couldn't catch a fish if someone tossed it in our laps!)
Sadly, the debate has gone on for decades and will likely continue as long as there are trout in the river!
Now, as to the real O.P.: I have absolutely no opinion on this, one way or the other. It simply is none of my business. Not being female, I can't get pregnant and sadly, owing to injuries incurred many years ago, I am incapable of getting anyone pregnant. It simply does not concern me and I have absolutely no business telling others what they should or should not do with their bodies.
I believe it's a personal choice and decision....I don't believe there should be no choice....and I agree...with you Don...although I wouldn't do it...I also have no right to tell others they can't....
Hugz_n_Kissez: I believe it's a personal choice and decision....I don't believe there should be no choice....and I agree...with you Don...although I wouldn't do it...I also have no right to tell others they can't....
Isn't that like saying, I won't beat my children, but if you do...it's fine? (and I'm not even being argumentative...just following the logic?
Indyfella: Isn't that like saying, I won't beat my children, but if you do...it's fine? (and I'm not even being argumentative...just following the logic?
No it isn't...that's apathy...I believe in the overall premise of the case..which is the right to choose....I don't believe in beating a child!!!!!
Hugz_n_Kissez: No it isn't...that's apathy...I believe in the overall premise of the case..which is the right to choose....I don't believe in beating a child!!!!!
But with that...there would need to be a basis for that view, beyond "it's what I want".... I would think?
If that's the basis...then I want a lot of things.
I'm not necessarily directing this to you Hugz....just an open question to anyone smarter than me. Of which there are many.
Indyfella: But with that...there would need to be a basis for that view, beyond "it's what I want".... I would think? If that's the basis...then I want a lot of things. I'm not necessarily directing this to you Hugz....just an open question to anyone smarter than me. Of which there are many.
The right to be able to choose what to do with ones own body...I should have expanded it...so that closes the gap a little maybe....
dazzling_dave: Scott Peterson was charged with the murder of his unborn child.
I guess it is murder if you want the child. It is choice if you don't.
I think it has a lot to do with the viability of the fetus...the ability to sustain life outside the womb..Lacey Peterson was 9 months pregnant...of course the fetus is gonna live...some places don't recognize the fetus at all unless it has taken a breath so there is more than one way to look at the issue!!!!!
Thank you. It was a tough time, but I had 2 more beautiful children afterwards. They wouldnt have been, if things had turned out differently with Lauren.
Besame: Thank you. It was a tough time, but I had 2 more beautiful children afterwards. They wouldnt have been, if things had turned out differently with Lauren.
Gaba1956: There have been approximately 45 million babies aborted since Roe v. Wade, an unspeakable holocaust. The idea of "choice" shouldn't even enter here.
And do you know how many were aborted illegally in unsafe conditions before Roe v. Wade then????
Gaba1956: There have been approximately 45 million babies aborted since Roe v. Wade, an unspeakable holocaust. The idea of "choice" shouldn't even enter here.
Who are you to decide what any woman does with her body?
NO ONE should interfere with a woman's right to choose.
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lol I knew which song that was before I even looked is very funny