Which of the following do you agree or disagree with? ( Archived) (13)

Aug 20, 2009 1:27 AM CSTWhich of the following do you agree or disagree with?
raphael118
raphael118raphael118arlington, Virginia, USA8 Threads 2 Polls 1,074 Posts

Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?(Vote Below)

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Are they paying bribes?
5
24%
Are they spreading lies?
3
14%
Are they harming our country?
10
48%
Should we eliminatemedicare so they can make more?
0
0%
Should Bernie Madoff be their icon?
3
14%
Total Votes
21
The health care industry is spending huge amounts of money lobbying congress to protect their interests.
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Aug 20, 2009 7:40 AM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
Lobbyists are only concerned about their interest and not about the interest of the people. conversing They are harming our country.
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Aug 25, 2009 5:45 PM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
cameraman: Lobbyists are only concerned about their interest and not about the interest of the people. They are harming our country.


You might as well put that in the past tense.
The damage is already done and is irreperable.

It's like the last sceneds of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"
There is nothing left to protect.

Lobbyists ARE the government.
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Aug 25, 2009 5:45 PM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
make that "scenes"
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Aug 25, 2009 5:47 PM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
raphael118: The health care industry is spending huge amounts of money lobbying congress to protect their interests.


It might help to precise exactly who "THEY" are.
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Aug 25, 2009 5:50 PM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
raphael118: The health care industry is spending huge amounts of money lobbying congress to protect their interests.



What else is new?
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Aug 25, 2009 6:10 PM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
somechick: What else is new?


Death and taxes.
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Aug 25, 2009 6:12 PM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
RayfromUSA: Death and taxes.


We get taxed to death now.Death could come if our government doesn't get their heads out of their butts and begin doing what's right but we both know that'll never happen.laugh
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Aug 25, 2009 6:26 PM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
For the first time in history that I am aware of, the lobbyist are looking out for the good of the general public.thumbs up

That healthcare ain't good enough for O'Bummer and his family, why is it good enough for you?doh
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Aug 25, 2009 11:39 PM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
RayfromUSA: You might as well put that in the past tense.
The damage is already done and is irreperable.

It's like the last sceneds of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"
There is nothing left to protect.

Lobbyists ARE the government.


Actually the government has the upper hand over the lobbyists. conversing The lobbyists have to pay the government money and make a compromise with the government in oder to have their way. The government don't need lobbyists though especially around election time.
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Aug 30, 2009 3:45 PM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
somechick: We get taxed to death now.


Yep, there's no way I can afford to die anytime soon.

somechick:
Death could come if our government doesn't get their heads out of their butts and begin doing what's right but we both know that'll never happen.


Never in a million years.
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Aug 30, 2009 4:23 PM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Scubadiva: Actually no. They want the private system. A socialised system would put a CAP on what they can charge per pill.
The system as it is now, they can charge exorbitant amounts for meds.


I live in socialized medicine and I have never seen so much pill pushing.

It works differently.

If the present US system, you are right, they charge a lot per pill, not just for SSRI but for all sorts of pills.

Under socialized medicine they can still charge a lot. Believe me drugs aren't cheap here.
But the high cost is seemingly offset because patients are reimbursed for about 60% of the cost for most drugs.
That makes it SEEM to cost less for the pills at the drugstore.

But it's totally deceptive because besides what you pay at the drugstore you have already paid a lot of money directly out of your paycheck for healthcare.
Whether you get any pills or not you are paying a lot. So getting the pills is actually a way to get a little something for money you have already paid.

And believe me, that very point automatically pushes the pills more effectively than advertising. The drug companies don't even have to advertise here. The system itself pushes pills.

Doctors, hospitals, drug companies, mutual insurance etc etc
the whole system is tied directly to the government. If they make a little less per pill at the drugstore they make it back by what they take out of your paycheck, and by not having to advertise.

You pay for the pills whether you get them or not. So people almost feel like they need to get more pills to get their money's worth.

And remember the pills cost less to make than the packaging.
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Aug 30, 2009 4:39 PM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
cameraman: Actually the government has the upper hand over the lobbyists. The lobbyists have to pay the government money and make a compromise with the government in oder to have their way. The government don't need lobbyists though especially around election time.


Let's clear up the terminology a little bit here.

Lobbyists don't pay the "government" anything except taxes.
Lobbyists pay politicians.
And the politicians line up waiting for their cut.
There's no "compromise".
It's politicians who jump through hoops to please the drug companies, not the other way around.
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Aug 30, 2009 4:45 PM CST Which of the following do you agree or disagree with?
DedKennedys
DedKennedysDedKennedysSacramento, California USA26 Posts
I would buy a Cadillac CTS if the Government would cap the price at $10,000 for the top model.
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