martyb99: Would you work for your best friend even if you worked with them and then they became a manager somewhere else?
Is there a boundary that shouldn't be crossed?
I voted not a chance. I had a friend of mine working with me for over a year mostly part-time and it was difficult to get him to do anything. He came in late constantly and everything i asked him to do, he would second guess it. Half the time he wasn't even listening so i had to explain everything at least twice. He spent more time looking up stuff online or on the phone than actually doing any work. Never again
I think if you do work for someone or have a friend work for you, you need to set boundaries, make things all official and stick to them. It can get very messy though if one person takes advantage of the friendship and decides to just doss or you get short changed.
DUBLINGUY1973: I voted not a chance. I had a friend of mine working with me for over a year mostly part-time and it was difficult to get him to do anything. He came in late constantly and everything i asked him to do, he would second guess it. Half the time he wasn't even listening so i had to explain everything at least twice. He spent more time looking up stuff online or on the phone than actually doing any work. Never again
I think if you do work for someone or have a friend work for you, you need to set boundaries, make things all official and stick to them. It can get very messy though if one person takes advantage of the friendship and decides to just doss or you get short changed.
Well that's the other aspects of this. There are multiple scenarios and i was thinking the mildest one - but yeah, that would be a big problem in any environment.
For me, it would be more of a - will you do tasks that your friend sets you even if you don't agree with the way he wants it done?
I would probably query it more but do the work - eventually frustration maybe?
martyb99: Well that's the other aspects of this. There are multiple scenarios and i was thinking the mildest one - but yeah, that would be a big problem in any environment.
For me, it would be more of a - will you do tasks that your friend sets you even if you don't agree with the way he wants it done?
I would probably query it more but do the work - eventually frustration maybe?
I can see what you're saying but what if your friend has a system and has had it for years and it worked fine? When my friend worked with me, I had a system long before he worked there he did come up with the some good ideas to improve things but most of the things he suggested were already tested and failed. The other frustrating thing was he would go ahead and do it his own way just to try and prove me wrong and more times than not, it ended up that he was just wasting his time and mine instead of doing it the way i asked him. In the end, it just became very frustrating trying to having to argue and reason with him why things were done a certain way instead of just doing them and getting them over with.
martyb99: Would you work for your best friend even if you worked with them and then they became a manager somewhere else?
Is there a boundary that shouldn't be crossed?
I did actually work for my best mate awhile ago - it lasted 2 years - and every bit of it was fantastic. We both knew the score that either of us could easily take advantage - and we both agreed from the start not to take the piss with eachother or go to the other extreme either. He'd have things come up with his kids and of course I'd hold the fort and vice versa - I'd have a situation and he'd be fine with accomodating it - it was beautiful! Pitty the recession chased him out of this country and off to OZ with his family - but ah well - nothing that good could last forever I suppose - but it defo worked out for me and that situation in answer to your poll.
It really depends! The key here is making sure that professional ethic is followed through on. Creating a strong working relantionship with each other even though you have a friendship out of work! I would suggest if someone is to go working for there friend make sure that clear, documented job description be there i.e indicators to your obligations to them the employer thus giving you a frim idea of your obligation to them the employer and your committed to the long term goals of the company (this exist in most busisness but seeing as your friend is recruiting you/person to work for them hr policy may be ignored)
If you the employee have the skill set and the work ethic to producing results you are likely not to have many problems. The only time this causes problems is we are only human or loyalty to our frienship make sometimes be difficult especially if feedback on work performance is needed and of course not always the posistive! Communication is the key and you must leave friendship at the door (not that you can't be friendly!) but that at the end of the day I assume your answerable to them in the work enviorment.
It depends on personality as for pervious post its likely this was not managed accuaretly which created these problems, if your friendship is strong and you value this person as a friend well personally I would find it harder to let them down and of course if you have strong work ethic!!
Basically a clear job description is required, your duties and oligations to the employer however depending on employer they may also over burden you with extra roll, duties in a sense of friendship.. professional work relantionship is key
craized: It really depends! The key here is making sure that professional ethic is followed through on. Creating a strong working relantionship with each other even though you have a friendship out of work! I would suggest if someone is to go working for there friend make sure that clear, documented job description be there i.e indicators to your obligations to them the employer thus giving you a frim idea of your obligation to them the employer and your committed to the long term goals of the company (this exist in most busisness but seeing as your friend is recruiting you/person to work for them hr policy may be ignored)
If you the employee have the skill set and the work ethic to producing results you are likely not to have many problems. The only time this causes problems is we are only human or loyalty to our frienship make sometimes be difficult especially if feedback on work performance is needed and of course not always the posistive! Communication is the key and you must leave friendship at the door (not that you can't be friendly!) but that at the end of the day I assume your answerable to them in the work enviorment.
It depends on personality as for pervious post its likely this was not managed accuaretly which created these problems, if your friendship is strong and you value this person as a friend well personally I would find it harder to let them down and of course if you have strong work ethic!!
Basically a clear job description is required, your duties and oligations to the employer however depending on employer they may also over burden you with extra roll, duties in a sense of friendship.. professional work relantionship is key
craized: It really depends! The key here is making sure that professional ethic is followed through on. Creating a strong working relantionship with each other even though you have a friendship out of work! I would suggest if someone is to go working for there friend make sure that clear, documented job description be there i.e indicators to your obligations to them the employer thus giving you a frim idea of your obligation to them the employer and your committed to the long term goals of the company (this exist in most busisness but seeing as your friend is recruiting you/person to work for them hr policy may be ignored)
If you the employee have the skill set and the work ethic to producing results you are likely not to have many problems. The only time this causes problems is we are only human or loyalty to our frienship make sometimes be difficult especially if feedback on work performance is needed and of course not always the posistive! Communication is the key and you must leave friendship at the door (not that you can't be friendly!) but that at the end of the day I assume your answerable to them in the work enviorment.
It depends on personality as for pervious post its likely this was not managed accuaretly which created these problems, if your friendship is strong and you value this person as a friend well personally I would find it harder to let them down and of course if you have strong work ethic!!
Basically a clear job description is required, your duties and oligations to the employer however depending on employer they may also over burden you with extra roll, duties in a sense of friendship.. professional work relantionship is key
ladylumps: I think that will give him something to mull over anyways
Yes the pros and cons very difficult but early neogations is key to delivering on a successful working relantionship. I managed my best friend at times difficult but we always left any negative side at work! Whether we like it our not in any work situation we don't always like what the manager has to say
craized: It really depends! The key here is making sure that professional ethic is followed through on. Creating a strong working relantionship with each other even though you have a friendship out of work! I would suggest if someone is to go working for there friend make sure that clear, documented job description be there i.e indicators to your obligations to them the employer thus giving you a frim idea of your obligation to them the employer and your committed to the long term goals of the company (this exist in most busisness but seeing as your friend is recruiting you/person to work for them hr policy may be ignored)
If you the employee have the skill set and the work ethic to producing results you are likely not to have many problems. The only time this causes problems is we are only human or loyalty to our frienship make sometimes be difficult especially if feedback on work performance is needed and of course not always the posistive! Communication is the key and you must leave friendship at the door (not that you can't be friendly!) but that at the end of the day I assume your answerable to them in the work enviorment.
It depends on personality as for pervious post its likely this was not managed accuaretly which created these problems, if your friendship is strong and you value this person as a friend well personally I would find it harder to let them down and of course if you have strong work ethic!!
Basically a clear job description is required, your duties and oligations to the employer however depending on employer they may also over burden you with extra roll, duties in a sense of friendship.. professional work relantionship is key
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Would you work for your best friend?(Vote Below)
Is there a boundary that shouldn't be crossed?