RayfromUSA: Most people haven't really been that affected by the depression to date. All things seem to be continuing as they were. Nevertheless, there are big unresolved things like deficit spending and a huge national debt and an economy that requires more debt every day just to survive.
So, what's your best bet on the length of the depression?
AS long as you believe the lie your mind is telling you.
RayfromUSA: Most people haven't really been that affected by the depression to date. All things seem to be continuing as they were. Nevertheless, there are big unresolved things like deficit spending and a huge national debt and an economy that requires more debt every day just to survive.
So, what's your best bet on the length of the depression?
Hi Ray, Sorry to say, I dont think their will be an end until all had Demenished... When all Countries Colide, to a point of destruction, I Truely believe this is the beginning of the End....Lord know how long it will last, till it gets to a point of Out of control, way out of control, Self Destruction...
Oct 29, 2010 3:39 AM CST How long will the depression last?
Vetri32Singapore, Central Singapore Singapore229 Posts
Vetri32Singapore, Central Singapore Singapore229 posts
RayfromUSA: Most people haven't really been that affected by the depression to date. All things seem to be continuing as they were. Nevertheless, there are big unresolved things like deficit spending and a huge national debt and an economy that requires more debt every day just to survive.
So, what's your best bet on the length of the depression?
When China feels like it is time to turn it off, then it will be gone temporary only
Conrad73: Or the US does like Argentina,tells them we'll pay you back What we,and When we feel like it!
That's the beauty of inflation (from a government viewpoint). They create debts and they can pay back the full amount just by printing up more money but by the time they do, the money is worth a lot less so they win value in the exchange.
But for loans that they make to others they index the amount to be repaid to inflation. That way the more wasteful they are and the more the currency inflates the more they will be repaid. So they win again.
It worked like that for the US from the 70s until the end of the century.
But by that time everybody was wise to the game and nobody wanted dollars anymore, so the crash could not be avoided any longer.
The only thing keeping the crash from occurring today is that China cannot afford to lose all the investment it has in US dollars.
Nov 1, 2010 10:36 AM CST How long will the depression last?
panther65newcastle upon tyne, Tyne and Wear, England UK1 Threads12 Posts
panther65newcastle upon tyne, Tyne and Wear, England UK12 posts
Its not going to get better , this is the end EVERYTHING is going to collapse. were on a one way dive by this Dec to Feb
RayfromUSA: Most people haven't really been that affected by the depression to date. All things seem to be continuing as they were. Nevertheless, there are big unresolved things like deficit spending and a huge national debt and an economy that requires more debt every day just to survive.
So, what's your best bet on the length of the depression?
RayfromUSA: Most people haven't really been that affected by the depression to date. All things seem to be continuing as they were. Nevertheless, there are big unresolved things like deficit spending and a huge national debt and an economy that requires more debt every day just to survive.
So, what's your best bet on the length of the depression?
I personally don't believe we are in a depression to be honest. Being on the lower rung of the economic ladder, I am still able to afford the different luxeries in life while keeping food in my mouth. Things may get tight from time - time, but I am able to make ends meet. It may take a minor juggling act at times, but again, I get by just fine day - day.
demonfairyNewton,hickory, North Carolina USA5,654 posts
North Carolina is cracking down here because of the jobless rate here,they have deported 10 thousand people who were working around here with fake id"s ans social secerity cards,just busted a furniture plant,they had 2 hundred with fake id's,bread plant had 160 working with fake id's.I got a job today,first one in two years,go for my drug test in the morning.So things are picking up,people are getting jobs now,due to the fact of the crack downs....I am proud of you North Carolina ,keep up the good work,maybe the people that have the right to these jobs will get them now instead of illegals..
demonfairy: North Carolina is cracking down here because of the jobless rate here,they have deported 10 thousand people who were working around here with fake id"s ans social secerity cards,just busted a furniture plant,they had 2 hundred with fake id's,bread plant had 160 working with fake id's.I got a job today,first one in two years,go for my drug test in the morning.So things are picking up,people are getting jobs now,due to the fact of the crack downs....I am proud of you North Carolina ,keep up the good work,maybe the people that have the right to these jobs will get them now instead of illegals..
Does this mean you are getting me a christmas present this year?
On a serious note: Congratulations on finding a job...Always a better feeling knowing you are earning what you get in, than having it handed to you
demonfairyNewton,hickory, North Carolina USA5,654 posts
JSuburbia: Does this mean you are getting me a christmas present this year?On a serious note: Congratulations on finding a job...Always a better feeling knowing you are earning what you get in, than having it handed to you
It is a good feeling knowing i will be getting a regular pay check,ty....I have never had things handed to me,i didn't draw a unemployment check while i was out of work,i saved my money over the years and lived off that was almost broke,good thing i finally get to go back to work.I moved in with my brother,it helped me get by,plus it helped him to pay his bills...team work,i plan on still staying here a while even thought i will be working...i will be able to save again and so will he,it works,till i meet some one some day if i ever do.
demonfairy: It is a good feeling knowing i will be getting a regular pay check,ty....I have never had things handed to me,i didn't draw a unemployment check while i was out of work,i saved my money over the years and lived off that was almost broke,good thing i finally get to go back to work.I moved in with my brother,it helped me get by,plus it helped him to pay his bills...team work,i plan on still staying here a while even thought i will be working...i will be able to save again and so will he,it works,till i meet some one some day if i ever do.
Were you eligible for unemployment? If so, why didn't you take it? Doesn't your boss pay for unemployment insurance in NC? The key word is insurance. You are a good person.
Back on topic: Well, the DOW went up over 200 points today so I guess the "depression" must be over. Of course that is probably just a post election pop but it is further proof of what a lot of people have been saying, namely that our government has been handed over to corporations with the stroke of a pen by the Supreme Court in their decision to allow corporations to give unlimited money to political candidates in the form of paid ads. Remember most of the money candidates spend goes towards making and airing attack ads. So with the Repubs taking over the house, corporations stocks are going through the roof because they now own half the congress. BTW oil stocks are soaring as you would expect. Kiss renewable energy goodbye.
ooby_dooby: Back on topic: Well, the DOW went up over 200 points today so I guess the "depression" must be over. Of course that is probably just a post election pop but it is further proof of what a lot of people have been saying, namely that our government has been handed over to corporations with the stroke of a pen by the Supreme Court in their decision to allow corporations to give unlimited money to political candidates in the form of paid ads. Remember most of the money candidates spend goes towards making and airing attack ads. So with the Repubs taking over the house, corporations stocks are going through the roof because they now own half the congress. BTW oil stocks are soaring as you would expect. Kiss renewable energy goodbye.
We agree here ooby dooby.
The information we receive from the media about political issues is really disinformation. Big corporations and the media are partners in crime in scamming the public for their own benefit. The CFR is the most notable structure involved in that partnership. And it controls both parties through its money strings.
Big business owns the media, and it also owns the political system. And it really doesn't matter which party is in power. Both parties are in the pockets of the same financiers. So that no matter who wins, the same policies are pursued.
They just have to modify their rhetoric a bit to maintain the illusion of 2 opposing parties representing the entire spectrum of political thought, when in fact the parties are nearly identical twins and they are both corrupted by the same forces whose goal is to rip off the public.
A rise in the stock market doesn't signal any sort of improvement for the economy. More than anything else it signals inflation. As the money loses value the price of everything, (including stocks) goes up.
If the economy were genuinely improving there would be a sharp rise in housing starts, the unemployment figures would start to drop. And above all debt would stop increasing. None of that is happening. So any talk of recovery is just disinformation.
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Nevertheless, there are big unresolved things like deficit spending and a huge national debt and an economy that requires more debt every day just to survive.
So, what's your best bet on the length of the depression?
AS long as you believe the lie your mind is telling you.