RE: Obama's Cairo Speech

Stress??? Community Organizer is good preparation for being Commander in Chief and Chief Executive Officer of the Country?

Sure communication is important...but so is creditability. Creditability means what you say has merit to the discussion.

As community organizer, President Obama gained what knowledge on military affairs or matters? None, Nada, Zippo, Zilch

As community organizer, President Obama gained what knowledge on
running a large organization like the FED gov't? None, Nada, Zippo, Zilch

As Community organizer, President Obama gained what knowledge on being the countries chief law enforcement officer? None, Nada, Zippo, Zilch

Are new ideas and a new vision important to the position of President? Sure, but it has to be based within reason and practicality. Maybe one of the reason he is running up such large debts today, is because his vision is bigger than the countries GNP.

If he cannot stretch that GNP to meet his vision, well....only bad things happen as China forecloses on many American landmarks...like the idea of the Statute of Liberty
with a "Visit China" Banner hung from her torch?laugh

RE: Obama's Cairo Speech

Only 17 pages to go to kill off another Obama thread...

RE: Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!

Dude, the Iraqi Gov't awards oil contracts next month....29th or 30th. Production is up to 6m bpd. They cut the contract list from
129 firms to 35 firms, all with past experience in running big fields. No word if any of the remaining firms were US or not.

With fuel prices here creeping up......$2.50 per gallon is the average across the country....I wonder if President Obama is going to go there and get some of it back for us? He was joking about it during the election.

I have an idea!!! lightbulb

Maybe he should talk with the 94 oil firms that were rejected in Iraq....and see if any want to do offshore drill and fields here in the US of A.

RE: Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!

President Obama is daily giving orders to bomb the ever living daylights out of some Taliban positions in Afghanistan. With his micromanagement of the Afghan war.....it really does start and stop in the Oval office.

RE: Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!

Black Hole? I know about the black holes in space. Black holes of Calcutta. Black holes from digging to deep in the ground. But GWB's Black Hole? That one Lucy, Ricky Ricardo has not heard of.

RE: Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!

Seems like the voters in Europe are doing that for US REP .......putting a stop to liberal progress there........

RE: Obama's Cairo Speech

No I let you swing away, Stress. You need another base runner to be safe and to score to come back from 3. Bunning is an out and a base advance. Not enough to do it for a tie or win.

But when you come to founding document of a country. Narrow interpretation is the norm. Here is why.

None of us were there when they were written. And none of them are here today. We don't know their state of mind regarding our issues of today. They could not foresee our issues then.

So most courts go by a strict and narrow interpretation.

Well you say 'we should read between the lines'.....let me use this example. You write a will....and have several inheritors in which you give your estate even shares to. You pass. At the time of passing, one of the inheritors has a financial problem. Now under your read between the lines...he can approach your executor and say....I have hard time and need more than my share. Would you like such a unilatrol change to your will to be made? Knowing it cuts the shares of the others? Consider that fair to your willed wishes?

These documents are also our founding father's legacy to and will for the country. When they said all men created equal....they meant a American of 1776 and a American of 2009 were created equal. What right do we have today, to say....this man of 2009 should have economic equality (eg. greater or lessor share) with other American of the day? Is he better than the American of 1776? No.

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The Pirate Party? Johnny Depp running for office there in Sweden?laugh

I would like to the platform and positions of the Pirate Party.

Something like this?

Platform: The Pirate Party will take no bounty or foreign ship less 100 ft in length and 100 t in weight. All bounty to be divided in even shares among the board crew.

Positions: The Pirate Party believes that cutlass and cannon shall be the many weapon procurement program of the gov't.

That any hostage taken in a raid shall be first ransomed for money. Any maiden taken in hostage, shall be first consider property of the captain.

Annual Pirate party conventions shall be held at a suitable port of debauchery with no less than 25 taverns. Pirate party delegates to pay their own expenses, but the Pirate Party will buy the first round of drinks.

I have to admit it has some flair to it that the REP and DEM parties don't have.laugh

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Stress...where are the words "economic equality" in the Declaration of Independence? You cannot add wishful words to a founding document. "All men are created equal"....does not mean that my wallet and your wallet need to carry the same amount of $s.

And pursuit of happiness.....what is happiness to one man'e economic position is not necessarily happiness to another man's economic position.

"All men are created equal" according the little Supreme court rulings on it, I have read a long time ago....so maybe off here....refers to God created person that one is no less or more than another.

And Pursuit of Happiness...is an activity of the individual to seek a happy life. That government will not infrigin on that right.

The rest of the Declaration is mostly about when to overthrow a gov't that is being despotic and keeping such rights from the people.

Economic equality is not there, the way I interpret it. But maybe you see it differently?

RE: Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!

Hey Dude, exit polls in the EU countries have right leaning and conservative parties taking major gains over liberals. Article says liberals are losing in all EU countries but Greece.

EU is projected to be 255-265 Right and Conservative TO
155-165 Liberal.

Seems EU voters are rejecting the bailouts and stimulus packages that the liberal gov't have been pushing on them.

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Maybe she can make a loan to CA. I hear they need one. Gov. Arnie can fly up to AK...pick up the check......then Obama can get angry at him for using a corporate aircraft for State Business. Cancel the AK bailout, causing REP run CA to fail. Sarah Palin to look like a novice in high finance.:-)

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That Constitution I read, did not have any words about economic equality in it, Stress. Pretty hard for the gov't to take the free market system to being one of equal economics.

Civil rights goes there a little bit. As far job opportunity.

New parties pop up all the time. It is the positions and policies they stand for and against that make them sustainable or not.

Say your new party pops up. One of its position is of economic equality. Meaning a DR with 8 years of grad school and a high school grad construction worker get paid the same. Remember post break up Russia? They tried to apply this kind of wages scale balancing to the country.

Because they did not have any money. They simply dropped the professional wages to the worker levels. Professionals hated it of course. Workers did not realize any benefit at all. Except professional services standards were poor.

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Guess what?

The EU nations are voting today. Right leaning centrist and conservative parties are kicking _ _ _ _ on the exit polling. Projection is that in France, Germany, Italy and UK.....conservatives are going to have a major win.

Projection is 265-275 (conservatives) to 155-156 (liberal) in the EU.

Seems the European voters are rejecting bailouts and stimulus packages in droves.

This all means?

YEP...The US is again out of step with Europe. With our DEM Congress and present Administration being liberal.....the EU will
have conservative in gov't office to deal with. Meaning?

If President Obama wants to do major international bailouts and stimulus packages, Europe is not going to help him. Again the poor old American tax payer get clobbered one more time.

I knew we should have sent McCain to Europe to campaign after Obama went there. We could of had all of Europe doing the McCain/Palin thingee a mig gigee dance.dancing

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Stress, Obama said the civil rights battle was won in the Cario Speech. If civil right battle has made all in the country equal....
where is the class struggle warfare in that?

Seems to me that it is pretty hard to have class warfare in a society of equality.

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I listening to questioning of FED Bernacke...on his bailouts of various financial institution.

They let Lehman Brother fail after the Fannie failure, but then bailout AIG.....not once but 4 times to the tune of $160b. Bernake logic to the AIG bailout, is that with Lehman Brother failing the global financial market became very shaky. If AIG failed it would have thrown the world into a depression.

He used legislation enacted in the great depression to do a number of bailouts without today's Congress approval. Direct loans from the FED.

Bernakce says a cause to the reccession was foreign investment that came into the country, but was not reinvestment into safe markets and loans.

Bernacke supports tougher regulation of major firms. Bernacke also agrees the lack confidence in the system is a key cause.

According to Bernake, the first signs of recovery will be.

1) Return of confidence
2) Refinance of home loan at lower rate.
3) A large bank getting large private equity

He has confidence the US economy will recover and grow again.

Also this, three IN pension funds are asking the FED Courts to block the Crystler sale to FIAT. Also some of the discontinued dealership are beginning to legally challenge the auto firm bankrupcties. I have a feeling that attroneys around the world are smiling today.

These are going to long and complicated civil courts cases, that will take years to complete.

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Stress, if the CIA (with Presidential approval) wanted Chavez or Castro dead.....they would be dead.

RE: Obama's Cairo Speech

So you asking a industrialized and high tech country to recover like a agrain 3rd world country, Cristina? Asking us to be forgiven for the debts that Obama is running up? So he can give money in the UN Millenniun plan to 3rd world agrian countries that
will never pay back and have to be forgiven thier debts?

Do I see a vicious circle here??? laugh

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See those liberal media TV networks, like CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS willing to give equal time?

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If you believe his military iaison officer ordered a $380K photo shoot flight without WH approval....then I have some land east of
Kennedy Space to show you.....

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Off to Church.....ya'll play nice....or I will report you to the big guy upstairs.

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We are going to have to get you flying higher than that, Sparkie.
If you is close enough to hit with a RPG......you are way to close to the ground. Climb man Climb.......(that comes from old B&W movie by the way).

RE: Obama's Cairo Speech

Cristina, he told graduates of Wheaton college (?) not to seek high paying jobs....but rather take jobs of service and low pay. These college grads have been working low paying jobs to pay for college.
Why take away a opportunities of income from them? Why ask them to non risk takers?

Now instead of spreading their wings and flying some (taking on major issues and problems)...he would have them to continue this non challenging career path.

But he would employee a 31 year old man (Mr. Geeser) without a graduate degree. Mr Geezer is in grad school.....to be Obama's choice to be the gov't man that reorganizes GM.

In other words he is selective in what work a younger person such asteem to. Some if his/her political views are approriate to Obama....he/she can expect a high profile position and challenging work. If (like most at Wheaton college)that come from REP and conservative families, take low paying service jobs.

Inspirational Sports Story- Basketball Player with only one hand

Maybe these guys have learned in life that there is more on the inside to a person than there is on the outside?

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What is a trillion here or there, WUW4? A trillion just is not what it use to be.

But having made the Sunday morning humor on the situation....

When Al Gore left office he had $2m in personal assets. Today he has over $100m in personal assest. I don't mind a man earning a fortune.....

If it has been done with ethics and motive by honest beliefs.
But in Al Gore situation of advocating green style living...while he personally lives in mansions, and has personal jets.....on questionable positions of global warning....these is something lacking.

Pres. Obama has the ink pen now...for signing the checks and passing the legislation. But even he knows that pens run out of ink...and economies can go bankrupt.

If he has taken our country into being a bankrupt country, he will go down in history as one of the countries worst President in modern times.

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There are many thing that most American don't have. The average American does not have yacht, a personal aircraft, a mansion.

If living for subsistance life is the present plans for America though, by some that are in power. I suspect it not going to be well received in the country.

Why have a education, if all you can have is a subsistance lifestyle to enjoy it or to fully use it in?? President Obama has asked Amercain youths.....graduating from college to take low paying job. Some never grow out of a low paying job and take risk to become more. Hence they stay at or near the subsistance level of life.

They never take on larger and more challenging issues of life.
When they only have a certain level of expectations to meet.
Here new ideas, products, inventions that these would bring to the world are now lost. If you wish to keep the world economically stagnant, don't challenge people. Just let them have the base things in life to live; food, housing, base transportation. Don't expect or demand growth or quality of life, just give them the basics.

America is founded on individualism. That challenges one to be the best and to be a risk taker. Unique in his work and life style. An expression of freedom. A big difference to what is taught today in Europe and many US colleges.

RE: I'm the "new girl"

Welcome to CS Katie....


Just don't trust ______, ______, ________ and ________. And ______
and _______ and ________ and ________.

Just kidding Katie, enjoy the site.

RE: Obama's Cairo Speech

I am for that. Most American women are naturely gorgeous. Now if we can get the mass retailers to close their cosmetic sections of their stores....we make a multi billion dollar cost saving there.

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Just maybe most European countries are 1/8 the size of the USA.
And the European model for smaller countries that a socialist/capitalist have been effective there.....is not going to be effective in a larger country.

One might ask.....why the former Soviet Union (a large country) did a economic Hari Kari in the early 90s.

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laugh
Sunday morning Humor, Indy. It comes with the comics section of the newspaper.

RE: North Korea

So what you are saying, Ray.

Is that NKorea is building missiles and nucs so that it will be invaded by the US/SKorea/UN?

What and how devious asian plan is that!!!

NKorean leadership must have studied their history well. Know that every country that the US has invaded....we rebuild to be economic powerhouses (post WWII Japan and Germany)!!!

Maybe Pres Kim is doing this so that his number three son (the one he selected to lead the country) can get a big signing bonus
and big salary as the CEO of the NKorean "All Peoples" Corporation.

What devious minds asians have, Ray.rolling on the floor laughing

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