whether im on topic or not you can buzz off youve strayed-we all have if weak logic, thread hijacking and the despicable personality you project onto me are true why bother yourself? im clearly not worth your sweat
you assume the worst of me with no reason enjoy yourself
my joining a discussion isnt a desire to discredit anothers views
you are one of those that insists they are psychic and are certain of anothers motivations in sharing-good for you
and btw-isnt that exactly what you are doing? to me? discrediting? insulting? condescending?
nope because its just how i feel and you cant discredit it its not possible
when someone isnt even willing to hear hey wait youre misunderstanding me and insist on believing their own made up backstory on me they are of no consequence they arent in conversation w/ me they are just throwing rocks
youre the only one around here trying to make someone feel guilty ive expressed some ideas toward neutrality and people gettin off their butts and into action- maybe minding their own business a bit more these are my opinions and i am allowed to have them AND state them ive also said i am victim of myself in these areas.
what do you care? and to say i am false? that is your idea again not necessarily true and there was good logic presented that you apparently couldnt be bothered to address- thats your choice. to just be rude.
but im sorry if you think ive been off topic oh well i didnt think so my mails didnt think so the OP hasnt complained so bite it
and if there is one here whom has never hijacked or been perceived as hijacking a thread- let it be he who casts the first stone
its not my job nor my desire to attempt to justify anything organized religion the lions club greenpeace
it is my charge to decide if i choose to participate on some level
discussion w/o action does not equal participation
if im not willing to pick up some tools and work i should keep my mouth shut
my point was clear what people spend their money on is no ones business doesnt make em stoopid or irresponsible it makes em doing what they do and maybe later theyll do something different the more time i spend judging you the less time i have to spend on making me more peaceful inside myself and as a person in the world
it all comes down to priorities i get to set my own as do the rest of people
and yes to omega who posed it as an 'if' question, i think
whether i was a believer or not- there was a time when i was not many of you might be shocked at my former life however i find it annoying that people will only believe there is a god isf he fixes everything otherwise hes a jerk or he doesnt exist.
i find that typical of humans and hilarious. especially when i see myself doing it. we are that way about lotsa stuff i think- not just the god issue. at least i am...
i also think its a bit arrogant to scrutinize or 'build awareness'? about something we arent actively involved in ive caught myself opining to excess in the past in such a way-later i feel a bit embarrassed-stating opinion, not very well researched or experienced opinion-as gospel- pardon the pun-
there are healthy and unhealthy people everywhere oh well im a jerk often enuf myself
and as far as people calling and asking as to my whereabouts i find my response to peoples behavior can often be wrong- a misunderstanding my own discomfort and so i misunderstand sometimes. when people call me they are concerned cuz they are my friends and thats our time to meet and i didnt show wouldnt you call a friend in such a situation?
ill get calls today
but it makes me feel wanted and welcome and supported as im sick as a dog and i already know who im gonna ask to do a grocery run for me-
why do you even respond to me? you either truly misunderstand me always or have some sort of sport of exaggerating and tweaking what i have said
my call is always for neutrality
choice
tending our own gardens rather than standing around saying what is right and what is wrong
isnt the whole anti church or anti religion stance about not being told what to do? so why do it to christians? i just think humans are crazy
i may share that i am a believer and that i attend church but what i speak to more is the bigotry -any bigotry as its never productive coming from anywhere
yes we should consider purchases but i would venture a guess that people give less thot to spending for those cigs or shoes than they do in 'giving' to any charity because service is the last place people, in general, want to give their money-its a challenge-its a step of faith. its sharing. and whether or not anyone else thinks so a church member does consider that a donation.
is alcohol bad because there are alcoholics? i wish i could come up with another analogy but i cant at the moment im coughing my fool head off
my point is that to say alcohol is bad is silly just as to say church is silly
i have met people in and out of church that i liked, didnt like, thot were jerks, and found to be distasteful in their choices.
so what?
and as far as the state of the nation-ive posted on that travesty many a time just cuz its crumbling doesnt mean oh well its over and i can still lament it and hope and do my part my garden is full of weeds-how bout yours? any humility in there at all?
.. people can save the world and change the horrors that abound why is it always daddys fault?
and millions of people tithe or donate to all sorts of things and millions of relief is spent in places that need it ive been some of those places and put my hand and money to the need thru a church who is anyone to judge what anyone does with their money
some people dont think twice on spending 50 bucks at a sports bar or 100 on shoes or a carton of cigs-or a special breed dog and thats no ones business but if people choose to donate its wrong and under suspicion?
if a group is agreed to gather-there will be overhead the few should not outweigh the many, as far as bad behavior goes. thats plain bigotry-which is never a forward moving state.
greenpeace accepts money, has offices, spends money on what they have agreed to attempt to accomplish. so does the united way and many many other charities/service organizations
so what? why is it anyones business organized religion is a mess because there are people there thats a big challenge-one it takes determination and maturity to overcome thats been the case for me but i do feel fulfilled serving and i am making progress toleratig 'christians' but i am making progress becoming a bit less arrogant-and i am truly happier when w/ a group than not.
that doesnt make me or god stoopid or wrong.
it shouldnt even matter to anyone else. isnt that what america was built on? coming together for common good, regardless and w/ no attention focused on 'religious differences'
not to be a nerd or anything but what you think you are feeling IS coincidentally foretold in the bible
not all but many many will turn away therein lies free will and its end result. cause and effect is the natural order of things
god isnt an interceder god isnt to blame for stuff a good parent doesnt do those things as it stunts maturity.
the relating to god as that type of being is juvenile. a good parent allows choice, falling and learning its not the parents fault everytime someone ends up in prison
having someone to blame is convenient but eventually one must pull themselves up by the bootsraps and take some responsibility
RE: Hello I am new to the site
my condolenceswe are now ALL a part of your life
for better or for worse
and i can guarantee some sickness