Now you actually have made a valid point, unlike Jac. I understand the government "forgets" about vetrans in some cases. But the way Jac puts it is as if they (the soldiers) are not people but something disposeable like an ink pen.
There is a gigantic difference between someone abusing assistance programs and men and women volunteering to be soldiers in the military and placing their lives at risk for their country. There is no similarity between the two.
Someone who abuses assistance programs need to get off their lazy behinds and seek out employment and live off their own dime. Times are tough, but any job is better than no job. If they actually try and still do not make enough, then by all means give them a hand, but not do it all for them so they don't have to do anything at all.
A person that signs up to serve their country does so voluntary. They are essentially employees of the government and it's country's people. Their job can place them in harm's way with the possibility of losing their life.
So how are the two similar??????? On one hand you have somebody who has no desire to take care of themself by means of a job and/or career, and on the other you have someone who (as part of their job) protects our country and can risk losing their life in doing so.
So I would love for you to explain how the two are similar, I really would.
I was in that situation before myself. My ex was jobless when we met, and she fooled me countless times about her looking for work. I supported her 100% financially, and at times it was rough and very stressful. So now I have made the choice to not put myself in that situation again.
I hope I do not either. But being the type of person I am, I do not ask for anything from anyone. If something were to happen I will be doing everything I can to survive, and not look for handouts. I do not have children so I'll find a way to get by. It may be easier said then done, but that's who I am.
I get the impression that some who have posted here do not think I have considered things like cost of drug tests and circumstances. I have, I know not every situation is the same, and I know some ideas or not plausible. By starting this topic I am looking at things that are messed up with the way people recieve assistance, and those that are taking advantage of it. Assistance is help, not a career and not means of fully supporting someone, but some have found ways around it to enable them to be a drag on everyone else so they don't have to grow up and do it for themselves. This is where my focus is on with this topic.
Someone mentioned passing judgement upon someone based upon their appearence. I do not see things this way. I pass judgement upon people based upon their actions and their character. To me what someone does tells me far more about them then how they present themselves. I have seen people who are dressed ghastly have more moral, values, and standards then some people who dress to kill and use it as a front to fool people to who or what they are or about. Passing judgement upon someone because of looks or how they dress is a major flaw in society.
Dispensible commodities? So people who sign up to defend ones country in the military is nothing more than a throw away? My grandfather enlisted at 17 yrs old in the Navy to fight in world war one and my father was in the Marine Corps, so I take great offense to this comment.
Wouldn't it be great if men who whine about wanting women to learn how to cook, actually learn how to feed themselves? This is 2011 going on 2012, not the 1800's where men were so dumb they believed that women should and forced women to do it all around the house...cooking cleaning, ect...
As an adult we all should have learned long ago how to take care of ourselves without having to rely on someone else to do some or all of it for us. And what is sad is that some of these people who cannot fully fend for themselves have children. What does that teach their children, to rely on someone else all the time? No wonder it seems no one knows how to do anything anymore other than having someone else do it for them or pay someone to do it for them.
I give well deserved credit to my parents for raising me to be able to be independant. I was taught to work hard, take care of myself, and not to have to rely on someone else in order to make it in this world. I know how to cook (quite well for that matter), I know how to clean, I know how to fix things around the house, and I know how to work on my vehicle. I don't rely on no one to do anything for me. I see it as if I cannot do it myself then I don't need it.
Would it be nice to have a woman cook for me? Yes, it would be nice. But, I do not expect any woman I might date or have a relationship with to do it all. A real relationship means both do things, not just one.
I personally would not. I am looking for someone who has their act together and is stable in all aspects- they are employed, have their own place to live (apartment or house), a vehicle, and so on. I am not looking to financially support someone or be mooched off of.
I guess someone my age or within a couple years or so + or -. I'm 32 and I would like the option of having kids if I find someone to have something meaningful with
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People who need help who deserve it, and those who do not
Now you actually have made a valid point, unlike Jac. I understand the government "forgets" about vetrans in some cases. But the way Jac puts it is as if they (the soldiers) are not people but something disposeable like an ink pen.