Interestingly, science, particularly, the holographic model of the universe, seems to indicate that "mind" creates everything we experience in the physical world. It seems to show that mind is expressed and recorded by the brain, not created by it.
You are right, it is exactly what we expect to see that materializes.
How do you explain that when people dream, there are certain record-able brain waves. People that experience NDE are flatlined. Interesting question, worth exploring from a scientific perspective.
referring to the paragraph "As for the bright light...." perhaps this explains all that we see and feel with our five senses - after all, how would you know the difference? Because EVERYONE sees it, then it is real? How about hundreds that see "UFO's" or whatever. Are they real then? Does the number of people that see something make it more or less real? What is reality - the thought that produces it or the physical manifestation? Have we scientifically limited ourselves by assuming that only what can be recorded by the five senses is real? These are things I am exploring
You might want to check out "The Holographic Universe", by Michael Talbot. The research of two very reputable scientists raised some interesting questions....
Has anyone had a near death experience, or out of body experience, astral travel, or witnessed or experienced any miracles such as healing or phenomena? I am just breaking into this field of study, and would love to hear your experiences.
From a scientific perspective, it seems that time is a construct of the human mind, as is space, and matter, for that matter. ;) Quantum physics seems to show the nonlocal nature of particles, with communication between them (if you can call it that, as everything is really one) with no time lapse. Also these particles can possess an infinite amount of positions at once, while being nowhere at the same time. Kind of mind-bending. Since you brought God into it, the Bible refers to God's thinking without the concept of time (He is without beginning or end) It also mentions that our concepts are different than his (a day is as a thousand years) The Bible also refers to things we see as not being eternal, the implication of eternal seems to mean real. "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen" in Scripture seems to find its equivalent in Science, if you study the holographic model of the universe. There are numerous instances reported, both in antiquity, and in the present, of food being materialized out of thin air (Jesus did this, as well as many shaman and holy men), people vanishing and reappearing instantly in another place, even apparitions of the Virgin Mary could be the "mind" manifesting in physical form. This seems to indicate that the whole universe may actually be created by the 'mind'. Real, for sure, but not in the way we think. Back to time - people being able to both relive the past in lucid dreams, often the past of events unrelated to them, and to see the future seems to indicate time is just our way of measuring things as a reference point, but is really an illusion. It almost seems like time is a continuous loop.
You are making the same, tired, COLOSSAL mistake that pretty much everyone does here. All but the last few chapters in Job are JOB'S illogical, ridiculous ramblings about his distorted reality of God's character. Preachers around the globe quote this twisted reality of Job's as Gospel, or words God Himself spoke! Evil doings are recorded elsewhere in the Bible, as recorded events, not evidence that these things are condoned by God, for crying out loud. God finally breaks in in the end, and pretty much says - "you have NO idea what you are talking about. How dare you speak for me, and paint me in such a way to make yourself look better!" If you want to use the Bible, use it properly. It says we are created in His image, that we are loved unconditionally, that we owe nothing to God, that all he wants is a loving relationship with us. WE think we should grovel, that we are inferior, not worthy, are his puppets, better than our fellow humans because of our beliefs or actions, have to jump thru hoops to please our imagined egotistical God, all that CRAP that most of religion spouts. So then all the people who see this as the BS that it is, unload their OWN cart of BS and state that there is either no God at all or the mythical ogre that religion says he is, or - here's a good one - just because they don't LIKE the description of God they have heard, that PROVES there isn't one at all!
You really think it is about religion? Come on, follow the money. Of course there has to be a villain to justify war and get support, but we won't go there.....
Actually, if one reads Paul's account of God's will in the Bible, it is that all people live in abundance in all areas of their life, with peace and joy. Paul even explains it as a last will and testament, put into effect upon Jesus' death. Of course, people don't experience it, because of human choices, but it is God's will nevertheless.
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NDE, OBE, Spiritual Phenomena, Miraculous Healings
Interestingly, science, particularly, the holographic model of the universe, seems to indicate that "mind" creates everything we experience in the physical world. It seems to show that mind is expressed and recorded by the brain, not created by it.You are right, it is exactly what we expect to see that materializes.
How do you explain that when people dream, there are certain record-able brain waves. People that experience NDE are flatlined. Interesting question, worth exploring from a scientific perspective.
referring to the paragraph "As for the bright light...." perhaps this explains all that we see and feel with our five senses - after all, how would you know the difference? Because EVERYONE sees it, then it is real? How about hundreds that see "UFO's" or whatever. Are they real then? Does the number of people that see something make it more or less real? What is reality - the thought that produces it or the physical manifestation? Have we scientifically limited ourselves by assuming that only what can be recorded by the five senses is real? These are things I am exploring
You might want to check out "The Holographic Universe", by Michael Talbot. The research of two very reputable scientists raised some interesting questions....