SistaCallie Forum Posts (795)

BEFORE OR AFTER...

Hi Katte, thank you for your comment of actual premarital counseling experience.

Hello to you Mollybaby, thank you as well for your comment of premarital counseling experience. First hand insight information is always better than second-hand no-sight(blind) information.

BEFORE OR AFTER...

Hi Lady, please explain your comment ... how is your above comment to be so? ... thanks

RE: A successful relationship

ooopppps! I mean how to delete one of my posts... there are three of the same. Can'tbelive there are cancelor delete features...oh, weell,

RE: A successful relationship

OH, MY! HOWDO YOU DELETE A THREAD... my computer is acting up and I see my post came up more times than it should have? help: sorry!

RE: A successful relationship

Hi there mnowsa, I appreciate what you speak in part. And if this you speak, "So, perhaps, we will never know what it really takes to have a successful relationship. In fact, i will even dare to say that even those people, who claim to have a successful relationship, don't even know themselves for sure. Instead, it is just there and coming from another dimension of life. Call it karma or Godly gift...."... be this of a truth, then we must ask the question and define, what is a successful relationship? As well as what does the author of the OP mean by a "successful relationship?"

We know that experience is the best teacher for most learning. Therefore, when looking at those in what we perceive or know as having a successful dating relationship, we find that it always leads to marriage. You will also find those who are in what we perceive to be, and know as being a successful dating or marriage relationship, we find they have been married for over 50 or 60+ years, and have endured the good times of life with the bad times of life.. and when asked, each partner will tell you their marriage lasted because of a willingness to sacrifice self (humility) for their mate. Selfless in giving up their own way to benefit the other out of love. Yes, such love is a gift from God, but a person must also be willing to cultivate that gift of love and spend time weed-eating around their rough edges and prune back the branches, and digging up and turning over the soil of their heart in order to produce a greater harvest of love. By mere definition of the word successful let's us know a little something about what it means to have a successful relationship not only with others/mate/ or in a marriage, but a successful relationship starts with a relationship with our own inner-self.

please call me callie

RE: A successful relationship

Hi there mnowsa, I appreciate what you speak in part. And if this you speak, "So, perhaps, we will never know what it really takes to have a successful relationship. In fact, i will even dare to say that even those people, who claim to have a successful relationship, don't even know themselves for sure. Instead, it is just there and coming from another dimension of life. Call it karma or Godly gift...."... be this of a truth, then we must ask the question and define, what is a successful relationship? As well as what does the author of the OP mean by a "successful relationship?"

We know that experience is the best teacher for most learning. Therefore, when looking at those in what we perceive or know as having a successful dating relationship, we find that it always leads to marriage. You will also find those who are in what we perceive to be, and know as being a successful dating or marriage relationship, we find they have been married for over 50 or 60+ years, and have endured the good times of life with the bad times of life.. and when asked, each partner will tell you their marriage lasted because of a willingness to sacrifice self (humility) for their mate. Selfless in giving up their own way to benefit the other out of love. Yes, such love is a gift from God, but a person must also be willing to cultivate that gift of love and spend time weed-eating around their rough edges and prune back the branches, and digging up and turning over the soil of their heart in order to produce a greater harvest of love. By mere definition of the word successful let's know something about what it means to have a successful relationship not only with others/mate/ or in a marriage, but a successful relationship starts with a relationship with our own inner-self.

please call me callie

RE: A successful relationship

Hi there mnowsa, I appreciate what you speak in part. And if this you speak, "So, perhaps, we will never know what it really takes to have a successful relationship. In fact, i will even dare to say that even those people, who claim to have a successful relationship, don't even know themselves for sure. Instead, it is just there and coming from another dimension of life. Call it karma or Godly gift...."... be this of a truth, then we must ask the question and define, what is a successful relationship? As well as what does the author of the OP mean by a "successful relationship?"

We know that experience is the best teacher for most learning. Therefore, when looking at those in what we perceive or know as having a successful dating relationship, we find that it always leads to marriage. You will also find those who are in what we perceive to be, and know as being a successful dating or marriage relationship, we find they have been married for over 50 or 60+ years, and have endured the good times of life with the bad times of life.. and when asked, each partner will tell you their marriage lasted because of a willingness to sacrifice self (humility) for their mate. Selfless in giving up their own way to benefit the other out of love. Yes, such love is a gift from God, but a person must also be willing to cultivate that gift of love and spend time weed-eating around their rough edges and prune back the branches, and digging up and turning over the soil of their heart in order to produce a greater harvest of love. By mere definition of the word successful let's know something about what it means to have a successful relationship not only with others/mate/ or in a marriage, but a successful relationship starts with a relationship with our own inner-self.

please call me callie

RE: A successful relationship

I think a successful relationship requires a willingness of both parties to surrender one's self to, and for the other in humility, giving up pride, ego, arrogance and the likes... totally committing and submitting to one another.

BEFORE OR AFTER...

unlaoised... good question. Nothing has happens to the good old fashion way of falling in love and getting married. If you ask your parents or grandparents, they will tell you they fell in love got married, BUT also received premarital counseling ... maybe not as we know it today, but if I were a gambling woman, I would bet, they will tell you that either their father/mother, grandfather, grandmother, pastor, elderly family member or someone close to them gave them some good ole fashion premarital counseling and guidance BEFORE marriage. This is also why marriages of old lasted for 40 and 60 plus years... the couples endured the hard times and the good times with each other for better and worse.

Love doesn't fall out of love, if you truly love a person. True LOVE endures through all thing. As I've stated, premarital counseling is a proactive step, not a reactive step which usually is divorce...

BEFORE OR AFTER...

I would like to thank all you for your comments, sorry, can't answer all of you individually as I would like. But your opinions in this discussion are all good, because they are expressions of your own thoughts, and that's what makes it good.

However, I would like to ask how many of you go to see your doctor for six month or yearly check-ups? I mean, even if you're feeling great, do you have regular physical check-ups just to make sure all things are in order and are working together for your good within your body? If yes, then why is there so much opposition when it comes to seeking premarital counsel BEFORE a couple walks down to the altar for marriage. It would seem to me that premarital counseling is the same as having a six months or yearly physical check-up? Many things may or may not be exposed during a counseling section, just as many things may or may not be exposed during a six month or yearly physical exam. tests

My other question to you, if you have never attended a premarital counseling section, how is that you can oppose something you have no knowledge about? Is this opposition be out of fear of possibly learning about yourself or your mate that you take for granted that you would rather not know?

Someone made mention about their Catholic church requiring premarital counseling before marriage... this is very good, because all the topics that are presented in the sections are important to holding and keeping a relationship/marriage on solid ground and together...

Premarital counseling is all about educating ones self about the other person, as well as learning about your own self things that you THINK you already know about yourself, only to find out in a premarital section there is a deep void within. In some instances the void can be filled BEFORE marriage instead of AFTER marriage when its too late, its the taking of proactive measures that makes for a good relationship, and not reactive measures which results in divorce. Many things you learn in premarital counseling that are experienced only in marriage. Therefore, premarital counseling is preparation for what's to come and to expect and how to properly handle those things that are to come effectively, ... nothing more and nothing less.

Relationships are suppose to be built on faith, trust, and honesty, it is a union between two people who come together as one. How can two people walk together unless there is agreement as one?... knowing the inner person is not usually foreseen or known during the dating process, counseling tends to lessens many surprises in marriages?

No, we will never learn every thing about a person, nor will we ever learn everything about our own selves... but from where I sit, its sure is good to know some of those hidden things of a person's mind, hearts, and spirit BEFORE marriage, than to learn about them AFTER marriage.

Moreover, both parties must be in agreement to such counseling.It is a known, that if one party does not agree and think its not important, when the marriage starts to fall apart, it will be very difficult to get the party who disagrees with premarital counseling to attend marriage counseling sections to save, restore, and resolve issues and problems in the marriage, and the disagreeing party is quick to rush out to the divorce lawyer.

BEFORE OR AFTER...

I personally, think if a COUPLE is serious about getting married during the dating stage, they should attend premarital counseling. They will find out a lot more information about each other through premarital counseling sections that ofttimes does not come out when dating... after the counseling sections, you may or may not care to be anymore than friends... OR maybe not even friends

Premarital counseling BEFORE they get serious in a relationship or engaged OR AFTER they have gotten engaged headed to the altar, OR NOT AT ALL?. Will such counseling help the relationship before getting married or in marraige?

RE: World without end!!

Pedro:

Hi Predro

YES, Glory be to the Father, glory be to the Son, and glory be to the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning is now!! and ever shall be!! world without end. AMEN!

This means God's kingdom to come on earth that will be establish on the second coming of Jesus Christ who will come to set up His earthly kingdom as God has His kingdom heaven, and we who have faith to believe and are saved shall reign with Christ forever... none but the righteousness of God shall enter in and see God and our Lord Jesus Christ face to face.!!

The kingdom to come that's a sure promise from God, for He is not a man that He should lie,and He has never failed, nor ever not kept a promise...hallalujaaar..lol what a blessed hope of the future for the believer's life after death on earth... to live again(

RE: Whats The Meaning Of Life ?

RE: Are we approaching the End of Times?

Yes, the end times began at the birth of Jesus Christ, because He is the end times. The end times has nothing to do with us, its all about the second coming of Jesus who will reclaim God's creations (humans)and set up His earthly kingdom for all who have faith to believe in Him,and we will live and reign with Him eternally in peace and love forever.

RE: Whats The Meaning Of Life ?

I agree Ed1941.... GOD our Creator, created us for His glory, and when we live our lives pleasing to GOD, we connect with the meaning and purpose of life through His Son Jesus Christ. Just knowing Jesus Christ in a personal relationship we find the missing links that make our lives more meaningful and productive thus, we experience true love, inner peace, real joy and happiness, and the learning of contentment... no matter what condition our condition may be in....