Illegal Aliens---should they be allowed to stay or be sent home? (309)
toranogaDecorah, Iowa USA56 Threads 1,095 PostsWith the number of illegal alien workers in this country roughly equal to the number of unemployed legal U.S. workers, should we send the illegals packing, or should they be allowed to stay?
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toranoga: With the number of illegal alien workers in this country roughly equal to the number of unemployed legal U.S. workers, should we send the illegals packing, or should they be allowed to stay?
I think we should purchase Mexico, which in turn would create a tax base that isn't being tapped here and the boarder fence would be much cheaper because it will be much shorter on the southern tip of Mexico.
zee
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toranoga: With the number of illegal alien workers in this country roughly equal to the number of unemployed legal U.S. workers, should we send the illegals packing, or should they be allowed to stay?
Its not as easy as all that. Most of the illegals are doing jobs that most of the unemployed wont do. Like farm work. But on the other hand they should get here legaly, and they are breaking the law. I dont think there is an easy answer
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I honestly dont have the answer
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toranoga: With the number of illegal alien workers in this country roughly equal to the number of unemployed legal U.S. workers, should we send the illegals packing, or should they be allowed to stay?
Well what happened when they went on strike for one day that time??? Did they not prove that the economy couldn't function without them???? So in that sense...even though they are illegal...they are actually contributing something by helping to keep the economy going....I think those who are there should be given amnesty.....
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Straight out thinking - someone who did not bother to apply for the right to stay to live and work (and pay tax, not forget) in a country must be prepared to be sent back.
This would be such a time, right?
This would be such a time, right?
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USThumper: Its not as easy as all that. Most of the illegals are doing jobs that most of the unemployed wont do. Like farm work. But on the other hand they should get here legaly, and they are breaking the law. I dont think there is an easy answer
you know it is that no one want these jobs or is it that the one offering these jobs do not wish to pay a living wage? Just asking.------ This thread is Archived ------
Hugz_n_Kissez: Well what happened when they went on strike for one day that time??? Did they not prove that the economy couldn't function without them???? So in that sense...even though they are illegal...they are actually contributing something by helping to keep the economy going....I think those who are there should be given amnesty.....
Hugs i understand what you are saying ,but should we reward them for committing a crime , they did enter the country illegally. 
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Maybe let them apply for the right to stay. Show that they have a job and will be productive members of our population
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jessejess47: Hugs i understand what you are saying ,but should we reward them for committing a crime , they did enter the country illegally.
Wellll...you can send them back at the detriment to your economy...or you can recognize that they are a benefit...legalize them and have them fully contribute my paying taxes etc....I mean what does the U.S. have to lose by making them legal??? I think they have more to lose by sending them back...
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you know I do sorta agree with you guys ,but it happened to me in Canada and I was put in jail, cause I broke the law same as they did. Just saying millions came to this country legally and we welcomed them with open arms, I think they need to do the same is all.
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jessejess47: you know it is that no one want these jobs or is it that the one offering these jobs do not wish to pay a living wage? Just asking.
Ive worked on a vegtable farm off and on for over 20 years, and Ive seen some of these people making real good money at piecework picking. But nobody makes a lot at farming because the govt. keeps the prices down. just a few years ago a dairy farmer friend was getting almost the same price per gallon for his milk as they did in 1952------ This thread is Archived ------
Hugz_n_Kissez: Well what happened when they went on strike for one day that time??? Did they not prove that the economy couldn't function without them???? So in that sense...even though they are illegal...they are actually contributing something by helping to keep the economy going....I think those who are there should be given amnesty.....
You are right.... now that the economy isn't working.... it is time to get rid of them and have no effect. Very good point.
zee
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mike69spain: Straight out thinking - someone who did not bother to apply for the right to stay to live and work (and pay tax, not forget) in a country must be prepared to be sent back.
This would be such a time, right?
This would be such a time, right?
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jessejess47: you know I do sorta agree with you guys ,but it happened to me in Canada and I was put in jail, cause I broke the law same as they did. Just saying millions came to this country legally and we welcomed them with open arms, I think they need to do the same is all.
Yes it is the law...but this isn't just one...it's thousands...and I really believe the damage would be greater to send them back...BUT that's the choice that has to be made by the U.S....which is the lesser of the two evils at a time when your economy is suffering as it is????
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Hugz_n_Kissez: Wellll...you can send them back at the detriment to your economy...or you can recognize that they are a benefit...legalize them and have them fully contribute my paying taxes etc....I mean what does the U.S. have to lose by making them legal??? I think they have more to lose by sending them back...
Laws of supply and demand would address that. It always does.
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If undocumented workers are a problem, the solution is easy.
The undocumented workers are being employed by someone. That employer is getting over big-time and we are all paying for the employer dodging payroll and other taxes.
The solution is easy -- prosecute the employer. If there are no jobs for undocumented workers, then they will not come to the US and most will return to their own country.
You can guarantee that if the wages on the jobs that "Americans do not want" rise high enough, someone will take the job -- that's how markets work.
The "problem" is that corporations largely run the US gov't. Thus, employers who benefit from this system rig enforcement and are not prosecuted. In large ICE (INS) raids, the corporate employers are given advance warning. The corporations get off and the "mobile serfs" who only want to earn an honest buck are the ones that ICE throw in jail.
USThumper: Most of the illegals are doing jobs that most of the unemployed wont do.
The undocumented workers are being employed by someone. That employer is getting over big-time and we are all paying for the employer dodging payroll and other taxes.
The solution is easy -- prosecute the employer. If there are no jobs for undocumented workers, then they will not come to the US and most will return to their own country.
You can guarantee that if the wages on the jobs that "Americans do not want" rise high enough, someone will take the job -- that's how markets work.
The "problem" is that corporations largely run the US gov't. Thus, employers who benefit from this system rig enforcement and are not prosecuted. In large ICE (INS) raids, the corporate employers are given advance warning. The corporations get off and the "mobile serfs" who only want to earn an honest buck are the ones that ICE throw in jail.
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Hugz_n_Kissez: Well what happened when they went on strike for one day that time??? Did they not prove that the economy couldn't function without them???? So in that sense...even though they are illegal...they are actually contributing something by helping to keep the economy going....I think those who are there should be given amnesty.....
Amnesty?... then doesn't that give everyone who has done something against the law a right for amnesty?
I don't get what it is that people don't understand about the word ILLEGAL? There is a right way to do things and a wrong way.
zee
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zee1ander: Amnesty?... then doesn't that give everyone who has done something against the law a right for amnesty?
I don't get what it is that people don't understand about the word ILLEGAL? There is a right way to do things and a wrong way.
zee
I don't get what it is that people don't understand about the word ILLEGAL? There is a right way to do things and a wrong way.
zee
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There are a lot of much smarter folks out there that can't figure this out so I sure don't know the answer ,but if we just let them all off free then that is saying just jump the fence and it is all good ,now is that fair to the ones that do it the right way and have to wait months maybe longer to enter legally.
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