Sommerauer71: You think it is??? Well, I am not responsible for how you think.
You may think today's posts from me are judgemental and unfair, of course they will appear like that.
You have not been where I have been with this woman for six months, I think her calling people abusers and women haters is judgemental and unfair.
But you have never seen that, so you can only respond to what you see.
I have deeper knowledge and when yet another man was called a stalker yesterday, and many times before, I stepped in, never rude, straight to the point and with my thoughts.
Don't judge me on my thoughts please, when you don't know the full story, like we never judged you with recent events in your life. That would be unfair of me to do so, so I don't, I am not an unfair person.
Hey I just call things how I see them Sommer.
You may think you have deeper Knowledge whaich may make you right ...........but that doesnt make it so.
I am not judging you..........far from it..........I am not in your shoes.
Im not sure what you mean by saying we when it comes to judging me........
vinny1967: Hey I just call things how I see them Sommer.
You may think you have deeper Knowledge whaich may make you right ...........but that doesnt make it so.
I am not judging you..........far from it..........I am not in your shoes.
Im not sure what you mean by saying we when it comes to judging me........
Who are we and how do you know that ?
1. I said to you, in my post that you called how you see it.
2. Deeper knowledge around the area that I know has happened. From what I have seen, heard and read. Vinny, like any situation, there are some things that people know and some things that people do not know, I relayed my views on certain things in the thread that was pulled, I am not about to do it here, again. There is nothing about being right, you can judge on what you have seen here today, that does not make you wrong, however, you judgement is your own, don't presume I am making a song and dance about nothing, is my point. I am not. Today, we have lost a man, who was a good poster, because of a label that he was tagged with, given his job, he felt he could no longer particiapte.
3. You are not? Yes you are. You are judging me on a comment about pity. I see that very much in force here, on a thread that has nothing to do with the one last night, it just so happens that somebody pointed out a certain page where again, I am being slated. Your judgement of me, has no place in my life, I am simply responding to you.
4. You said I was being judgemental and unfair. I responded to your recent difficulties which were very public, as you know, where I did not judge you, it was a reference, a comparison to a bad situation that you found yourself in, which you had alot of support over and rightly so. In this instance, I am not disputing your support of the poster in question here, I am saying don't make judgements on somethings when you are only furnished with what you see here today. That is unfair, on a thread that was pulled.
5. I will not discuss this any further, in public, if you would like to discuss it with me privately then feel free, if you do not, then I think no less of you as a poster here.
6. If my comments about last nights thread are mentioned once more, I will write to the moderators asking for the thread to be reinstated so that people can have full view of what it is going on. If people want to know. If my partner is mentioned in any manner or form as a woman abuser and a woman hater again, I will report the thread. Titles like that are damaging and bad to say the least and simply untrue. That I do not tolerate, especially given my job in education.
7. If they do not, then the matter should be dropped.
Sommerauer71: 1. I said to you, in my post that you called how you see it.
2. Deeper knowledge around the area that I know has happened. From what I have seen, heard and read. Vinny, like any situation, there are some things that people know and some things that people do not know, I relayed my views on certain things in the thread that was pulled, I am not about to do it here, again. There is nothing about being right, you can judge on what you have seen here today, that does not make you wrong, however, you judgement is your own, don't presume I am making a song and dance about nothing, is my point. I am not. Today, we have lost a man, who was a good poster, because of a label that he was tagged with, given his job, he felt he could no longer particiapte.
3. You are not? Yes you are. You are judging me on a comment about pity. I see that very much in force here, on a thread that has nothing to do with the one last night, it just so happens that somebody pointed out a certain page where again, I am being slated. Your judgement of me, has no place in my life, I am simply responding to you.
4. You said I was being judgemental and unfair. I responded to your recent difficulties which were very public, as you know, where I did not judge you, it was a reference, a comparison to a bad situation that you found yourself in, which you had alot of support over and rightly so. In this instance, I am not disputing your support of the poster in question here, I am saying don't make judgements on somethings when you are only furnished with what you see here today. That is unfair, on a thread that was pulled.
5. I will not discuss this any further, in public, if you would like to discuss it with me privately then feel free, if you do not, then I think no less of you as a poster here.
6. If my comments about last nights thread are mentioned once more, I will write to the moderators asking for the thread to be reinstated so that people can have full view of what it is going on. If people want to know. If my partner is mentioned in any manner or form as a woman abuser and a woman hater again, I will report the thread. Titles like that are damaging and bad to say the least and simply untrue. That I do not tolerate, especially given my job in education.
7. If they do not, then the matter should be dropped.
Have a good rest of the evening.
In response to: No apology needed.
She doesn't?
Oh no, of course not, she wants it.
I amend my words.
Nice to see you Vinny.
Sommer I have a sincere lack of interest in replyin to all of above as I think a lot of it is just muddying the waters and taking away from what I said. I did not see the thread you refer to, and have no desire to.
You say someone ''Wants pity''
IMO that is being judgemental and unfair. If you think its fair thats your choice..........Debating other things is just avoiding the question IMO
If you can show me where the person asked for it I will gladly apologise.
If you want to come back to me about anything else, that is your choice but pls dont expect a reply.
Also ta for bringing up recent events and advising me that ''we'' didnt judge me. The people I care about know what happened and after that I really have no interest in it.
vinny1967: Sommer I have a sincere lack of interest in replyin to all of above as I think a lot of it is just muddying the waters and taking away from what I said. I did not see the thread you refer to, and have no desire to.
You say someone ''Wants pity''
IMO that is being judgemental and unfair. If you think its fair thats your choice..........Debating other things is just avoiding the question IMO
If you can show me where the person asked for it I will gladly apologise.
If you want to come back to me about anything else, that is your choice but pls dont expect a reply.
Also ta for bringing up recent events and advising me that ''we'' didnt judge me. The people I care about know what happened and after that I really have no interest in it.
Ta
Have a good Night
You have made your judgement. I am not about to go into details of a person wanting pity. I feel it is unfair that a thread that is still here, whilst the thread in discussion, which was raised by the poster being discussed, is not here. Not balanced and fair at all. It may begin to perhaps explain where I am coming from with 'wanting pity' That leaves me wide open to incorrect judgement. Unfair even, with presumptions being made on how I feel. I don't need those, I have my own feelings that I am very well in control of.
I have said all I have to say in public. If you want a detailed explanation then you can have it privately. if you wish, if you don't then fine It saves 'muddying' the waters further.
I do not want an apology. I want one person to stop calling men on here abusers and women haters. When those allegations are untrue.
Exactly, it is unpleasant isn't it? When a person raises something that can easily be misunderstood. And judgements can be flung around, I did not judge you on that matter, I would ask you the same on this, however, I can see that my words would make you think I was being judgemental. I am not, I am stating what I see and what others do.
I consider the matter closed now, unless I hear from you via email.
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You may think today's posts from me are judgemental and unfair, of course they will appear like that.
You have not been where I have been with this woman for six months, I think her calling people abusers and women haters is judgemental and unfair.
But you have never seen that, so you can only respond to what you see.
I have deeper knowledge and when yet another man was called a stalker yesterday, and many times before, I stepped in, never rude, straight to the point and with my thoughts.
Don't judge me on my thoughts please, when you don't know the full story, like we never judged you with recent events in your life. That would be unfair of me to do so, so I don't, I am not an unfair person.
Hey I just call things how I see them Sommer.
You may think you have deeper Knowledge whaich may make you right ...........but that doesnt make it so.
I am not judging you..........far from it..........I am not in your shoes.
Im not sure what you mean by saying we when it comes to judging me........
Who are we and how do you know that ?