Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped ( Archived) (110)

Apr 3, 2009 8:26 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
The US forces is killing many innocents in Pakistan in the name of hunting down the "Militants" .More than 400 villages mostly women and childen not Militants as climed by the western media and the US were killed since june 2008 in this naked violation of Human rights .The drone stikes are carried out on "specific Intelligence" .Paksitan is not in war with US and what is the right US has to kill people only on "Specific intellignece"? .Do they need a fair trail before killing them ? and they are Pak /Afgancitizens and should they be tried in Pakistan /Afganisan if at all found guilty than meeting death in the hands of a foreign force ? .In case Mexico start attacking the cities in US border to hunt down the drugg peddlers as a part of their war on drugs will US will allow this ? .Its time we should be unitied to protect the Humanright and rise above the borders.
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Apr 3, 2009 8:31 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
Why do you care what is happenning in Pakistan? You live in India. Isn't your country and Pakistan are war or totally in disagreement most of the time?
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Apr 3, 2009 8:35 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
Big_John: Why do you care what is happenning in Pakistan? You live in India. Isn't your country and Pakistan are war or totally in disagreement most of the time?


The ememity is only politically motivated .war is not between people . between Indian and pakistan citizens we still share a good relationship We have strong cultural ties with Pakistan even now. its not the question of being an indian and Pakistani .its about the violation of Humanrights.
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Apr 3, 2009 8:38 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
wixomwizard
wixomwizardwixomwizardWixom, Michigan USA35 Threads 3,636 Posts
bollywood: The US forces is killing many innocents in Pakistan in the name of hunting down the "Militants" .More than 400 villages mostly women and childen not Militants as climed by the western media and the US were killed since june 2008 in this naked violation of Human rights .The drone stikes are carried out on "specific Intelligence" .Paksitan is not in war with US and what is the right US has to kill people only on "Specific intellignece"? .Do they need a fair trail before killing them ? and they are Pak /Afgancitizens and should they be tried in Pakistan /Afganisan if at all found guilty than meeting death in the hands of a foreign force ? .In case Mexico start attacking the cities in US border to hunt down the drugg peddlers as a part of their war on drugs will US will allow this ? .Its time we should be unitied to protect the Humanright and rise above the borders.


If you want to save the Pakistan countryside and keep it pristeen, go and bring out Bin Laden and his cronies, otherwise go make a Bollywood movie.roll eyes grin hug cheers
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Apr 3, 2009 8:38 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
bollywood: The ememity is only politically motivated .war is not between people . between Indian and pakistan citizens we still share a good relationship We have strong cultural ties with Pakistan even now. its not the question of being an indian and Pakistani .its about the violation of Humanrights.


Then work toward peace and stop trying to make out someone else is wrong.
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Apr 3, 2009 8:42 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
adamisk
adamiskadamiskraleigh, Mississippi USA34 Threads 4 Polls 1,325 Posts
do you know how hard it is to tell the difference between friendlies and hostels you ever have what you thought was a tired old man pull out a machine gun and mow down your friends . me neither but there are always two sides of a coin the one bit of solice i can offer is the us military is by the book if innocents were killed they were doing something they were instructed not to . i got a buddy that just came back from over there it's not easy it's not fun
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Apr 3, 2009 8:42 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
Big_John: Then work toward peace and stop trying to make out someone else is wrong.
.I dont make polices here . I am just a common citizen . I am not trying to make someone else . What is happening in Pakistan and killing of innocents has no justifuication what soever.
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Apr 3, 2009 8:45 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
bollywood: .I dont make polices here . I am just a common citizen . I am not trying to make someone else . What is happening in Pakistan and killing of innocents has no justifuication what soever.


The Pakistan people need to reject the fighers and rise up against them. Anyone who allows fighters to live around them is party to the cause. I would never allow an figher to live in my neighborhood. I would die first.
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Apr 3, 2009 8:53 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
Big_John: The Pakistan people need to reject the fighers and rise up against them. Anyone who allows fighters to live around them is party to the cause. I would never allow an figher to live in my neighborhood. I would die first.


The people who are killed are ignorant and innocent villagers .They have no power or ability to fight againt a force like Taliban . One must know the situation in these places befoe you understand it . If the US cannot capture the Militant its their inability . They cannot bomb the whole villages for that . so would you allow mexico to bomb your cities if they want to catch the drug peddlers ?
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Apr 3, 2009 9:09 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
wixomwizard
wixomwizardwixomwizardWixom, Michigan USA35 Threads 3,636 Posts
bollywood: The people who are killed are ignorant and innocent villagers .They have no power or ability to fight againt a force like Taliban . One must know the situation in these places befoe you understand it . If the US cannot capture the Militant its their inability . They cannot bomb the whole villages for that . so would you allow mexico to bomb your cities if they want to catch the drug peddlers ?


Tell that to the innocent people who lost loved ones on 9/11. Personally I'm tired of seeing OUR young sons and daughter's going overseas to help a bunch of backward people who are unwilling to help us or themselves get rid of the evil in their own communities. God helps those who help themselves.
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Apr 3, 2009 9:42 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
wixomwizard: Tell that to the innocent people who lost loved ones on 9/11. Personally I'm tired of seeing OUR young sons and daughter's going overseas to help a bunch of backward people who are unwilling to help us or themselves get rid of the evil in their own communities. God helps those who help themselves.


Did those who got killed in 9/11 anything to do with US policies ? no . We are feeling sorry for them . From the Taliban perspective they were fighting the backaward American evil .likewise Do these innocents should be killed in your war against terror ? . Should a forward nation like US resort to the same tactics of a Backward cannibal force like Taliban ? .Can we avoid killing people to settle the political scores ?
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Apr 3, 2009 9:46 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
bollywood: Did those who got killed in 9/11 anything to do with US policies ? no . We are feeling sorry for them . From the Taliban perspective they were fighting the backaward American evil .likewise Do these innocents should be killed in your war against terror ? . Should a forward nation like US resort to the same tactics of a Backward cannibal force like Taliban ? .Can we avoid killing people to settle the political scores ?


So what is your solution to the problem if the USA stops all actions in your area of the world? How will India solve the problem? Tell us big talker....
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Apr 3, 2009 9:47 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
takeit4granted
takeit4grantedtakeit4grantednew berlin, Wisconsin USA4 Threads 785 Posts
bollywood: The people who are killed are ignorant and innocent villagers .They have no power or ability to fight againt a force like Taliban . One must know the situation in these places befoe you understand it . If the US cannot capture the Militant its their inability . They cannot bomb the whole villages for that . so would you allow mexico to bomb your cities if they want to catch the drug peddlers ?


the problem being that the militants,,terrorists pose in the villages. I think the majority of what we hear is what the goverments want us to hear. Your information most likely is quite different than what we're hearing
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Apr 3, 2009 9:53 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
bollywood: The US forces is killing many innocents in Pakistan in the name of hunting down the "Militants" .More than 400 villages mostly women and childen not Militants as climed by the western media and the US were killed since june 2008 in this naked violation of Human rights .The drone stikes are carried out on "specific Intelligence" .Paksitan is not in war with US and what is the right US has to kill people only on "Specific intellignece"? .Do they need a fair trail before killing them ? and they are Pak /Afgancitizens and should they be tried in Pakistan /Afganisan if at all found guilty than meeting death in the hands of a foreign force ? .In case Mexico start attacking the cities in US border to hunt down the drugg peddlers as a part of their war on drugs will US will allow this ? .Its time we should be unitied to protect the Humanright and rise above the borders.



I agree 100%. The U.S. has no right to hit targets in a sovereign country without it's leader's permission. The U.S. would not like a foreign country to bomb within it's territoy while looking for an outlaw!! The U.S. would consider such a thing as an act of aggression and tantamount to war!

I believe the U.S. is acting outside it's rights in doing this! The drones should be shot down!
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Apr 3, 2009 9:56 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
Big_John: So what is your solution to the problem if the USA stops all actions in your area of the world? How will India solve the problem? Tell us big talker....


I am not here to provide solution for your problems . Killing breed more killing in both the sides ..and dont use words like "big talker" when you address somebody ..It doesnt suit. lets address the ideas not the person.comfort
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Apr 3, 2009 10:06 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
pretzelman: I agree 100%. The U.S. has no right to hit targets in a sovereign country without it's leader's permission. The U.S. would not like a foreign country to bomb within it's territoy while looking for an outlaw!! The U.S. would consider such a thing as an act of aggression and tantamount to war!

I believe the U.S. is acting outside it's rights in doing this! The drones should be shot down!


Hi Pretzelman...and what if in asking permission from the leader....the host gov't OK takes to much time? or the bad guys in the hut get a warning phone call? or your drone is attacked as it makes its approach to fire?

It sounds right.....ask for mission permission from the host country. What if they say to you.....show us your specific intel that the bad guys are in this house now? How do you do that without tipping your agents identity that fingered them there?

I also understand that a woman or child can walk into a target house at the last moment before a strike. It happens....but if we are going to have any impact on the Pakistan border at all...now that is forbidden to send troops there...what else do we have other than drone strikes? Not much in the military tool box if you take this one away.
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Apr 3, 2009 10:06 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
bollywood: I am not here to provide solution for your problems . Killing breed more killing in both the sides ..and dont use words like "big talker" when you address somebody ..It doesnt suit. lets address the ideas not the person.


You are living in one country and attacking the policies of another country that is not yours. If you can't come up with solutions you are part of the problem.
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Apr 3, 2009 10:10 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
Michael211_2000
Michael211_2000Michael211_2000Houston, Texas USA22 Threads 5 Polls 775 Posts
2 words => Collateral Damage.

AlCaeda can't hide behind human shields... they started it, we intend to finish it no matter what it takes. scold

Regards.

- Michael ("American by birth, Texan by the Grace of God!")
sad flower
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Apr 3, 2009 10:12 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
pretzelman: I agree 100%. The U.S. has no right to hit targets in a sovereign country without it's leader's permission. The U.S. would not like a foreign country to bomb within it's territoy while looking for an outlaw!! The U.S. would consider such a thing as an act of aggression and tantamount to war!

I believe the U.S. is acting outside it's rights in doing this! The drones should be shot down!


It is my understanding that we are communicating with the Pakistan government before each strike.
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Apr 3, 2009 10:13 PM CST Drone Strikes in Pakistan .This must be stopped
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
Big_John: You are living in one country and attacking the policies of another country that is not yours. If you can't come up with solutions you are part of the problem.


Sir . I only want those innocents to be spared . they are poverty striken , illetrate ones who has nothing tho do with you war on terror. Its your countires responsibility to come up with a solution to protect human rights during this war on terror . Killing Innocents is an act of terror . then who is terrorist here ? US or Taliban ? or both ?
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