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Apr 26, 2009 8:52 AM CST From the mouths of babes
Thalassa
ThalassaThalassaRome, Lazio Italy104 Threads 2,410 Posts
Today I received a very long and very heartfelt email from my 24-year old son. We have a very close relationship and share our thoughts and feelings in an open and frank way, and have done so for years. He wrote some things that resonated what many of us older singles wonder as well. Here is a bit of what he shared (and I apologize for the length, but I think it's worth it):


..."So this is where it gets complicated and the reason I wonder if you have some advice or words of wisdom as you so often do. And also where at the risk of sounding like a jerk or egotistical- I have to be frank becuase my head is a little mixed up now. Well....basically, I dont have a lot of trouble finding a date and have dated a lot--and am proud that I have been with such intelligent beautiful women--that most guys would be a fool to let go. But mostly it is me who lets them go. And I do feel like a fool...that is, until I meet another incredible person-- until i feel like a fool again. That is how I see it- never as a fling or 'just someone to date', but very special, meaningful moments with someone on our meandering paths through life. The thing is, that after a few years, it does start to feel a little meaningless. Yeah I have these great moments around the world with great people, but everything is always fleeting- nothing to hold on to for very long. The futility is suffocating. I am not a womanizer so much as a spontaneous romantic. I really cherish those memories, and am always very honest, respectable and never a cheat or anything like that. But there is an emotional wake that affects these other people and definitely takes a toll on me. I guess I just wonder what it all means--if anything. Is it just a part of being young in my twenties or have I let THE ONE I love slip through my hands? Big questions I know...and I realize you've had some big shifts in your love life, but also some retrospect and self-reliance. I generally internalize my emotions and they build up, but you're the one person I can let it out to....so I apologize for the flood of information, but you've always helped in the past."

How do I help him when I flounder as well?
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Apr 26, 2009 2:05 PM CST From the mouths of babes
tainogirl
tainogirltainogirlTrincity,West Indies,, Trinidad and Tobago215 Threads 2 Polls 3,777 Posts
jlb684: Today I received a very long and very heartfelt email from my 24-year old son. We have a very close relationship and share our thoughts and feelings in an open and frank way, and have done so for years. He wrote some things that resonated what many of us older singles wonder as well. Here is a bit of what he shared (and I apologize for the length, but I think it's worth it):..."So this is where it gets complicated and the reason I wonder if you have some advice or words of wisdom as you so often do. And also where at the risk of sounding like a jerk or egotistical- I have to be frank becuase my head is a little mixed up now. Well....basically, I dont have a lot of trouble finding a date and have dated a lot--and am proud that I have been with such intelligent beautiful women--that most guys would be a fool to let go. But mostly it is me who lets them go. And I do feel like a fool...that is, until I meet another incredible person-- until i feel like a fool again. That is how I see it- never as a fling or 'just someone to date', but very special, meaningful moments with someone on our meandering paths through life. The thing is, that after a few years, it does start to feel a little meaningless. Yeah I have these great moments around the world with great people, but everything is always fleeting- nothing to hold on to for very long. The futility is suffocating. I am not a womanizer so much as a spontaneous romantic. I really cherish those memories, and am always very honest, respectable and never a cheat or anything like that. But there is an emotional wake that affects these other people and definitely takes a toll on me. I guess I just wonder what it all means--if anything. Is it just a part of being young in my twenties or have I let THE ONE I love slip through my hands? Big questions I know...and I realize you've had some big shifts in your love life, but also some retrospect and self-reliance. I generally internalize my emotions and they build up, but you're the one person I can let it out to....so I apologize for the flood of information, but you've always helped in the past."

How do I help him when I flounder as well?


Now I'm not a psychologist but here goes:

The twenties I see as a time of self discovery, The time when we get to know through trial and error who we really are and want we want. Some figure this out early some later. With time, experience, maturity and self-awareness we hopefuly make better decisions for ourselves in terms of a partner. When we meet new people a little more of the puzzle comes together to rule out whether this person has the values we are looking for or not. Your son is still pretty young and dealing with some of the same dilemas many of us went through at that age. He is simply trying to find out who he is. He is young and there is still plenty of time to find Miss Right. All he needs to do is be upfront and honest with these ladies so everyone know where they stand. I've learned our children don't always expect us to be perfect or have the perfect answers all the time. Making their own decisions in life is part of allowing them to grow up. Most of the times all they need to know is that they have a soft place to fall back on as they go through this growing up process. Hope I helped a little.

wine
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Apr 26, 2009 2:12 PM CST From the mouths of babes
scotybabe
scotybabescotybabedunfermline, Fife, Scotland UK6 Threads 105 Posts
In response to: Today I received a very long and very heartfelt email from my 24-year old son. We have a very close relationship and share our thoughts and feelings in an open and frank way, and have done so for years. He wrote some things that resonated what many of us older singles wonder as well. Here is a bit of what he shared (and I apologize for the length, but I think it's worth it):..."So this is where it gets complicated and the reason I wonder if you have some advice or words of wisdom as you so often do. And also where at the risk of sounding like a jerk or egotistical- I have to be frank becuase my head is a little mixed up now. Well....basically, I dont have a lot of trouble finding a date and have dated a lot--and am proud that I have been with such intelligent beautiful women--that most guys would be a fool to let go. But mostly it is me who lets them go. And I do feel like a fool...that is, until I meet another incredible person-- until i feel like a fool again. That is how I see it- never as a fling or 'just someone to date', but very special, meaningful moments with someone on our meandering paths through life. The thing is, that after a few years, it does start to feel a little meaningless. Yeah I have these great moments around the world with great people, but everything is always fleeting- nothing to hold on to for very long. The futility is suffocating. I am not a womanizer so much as a spontaneous romantic. I really cherish those memories, and am always very honest, respectable and never a cheat or anything like that. But there is an emotional wake that affects these other people and definitely takes a toll on me. I guess I just wonder what it all means--if anything. Is it just a part of being young in my twenties or have I let THE ONE I love slip through my hands? Big questions I know...and I realize you've had some big shifts in your love life, but also some retrospect and self-reliance. I generally internalize my emotions and they build up, but you're the one person I can let it out to....so I apologize for the flood of information, but you've always helped in the past."

How do I help him when I flounder as well?


Hi just have to say u have done urself proud with ur son he seems very intelligent and respectful u should tell him he has not yet found the one as he would know. I think u should tell him to enjoy being single as he has plenty time to settle down. When he meets the one he will know
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Apr 26, 2009 2:22 PM CST From the mouths of babes
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
jlb684: Today I received a very long and very heartfelt email from my 24-year old son. We have a very close relationship and share our thoughts and feelings in an open and frank way, and have done so for years. He wrote some things that resonated what many of us older singles wonder as well. Here is a bit of what he shared (and I apologize for the length, but I think it's worth it):..."So this is where it gets complicated and the reason I wonder if you have some advice or words of wisdom as you so often do. And also where at the risk of sounding like a jerk or egotistical- I have to be frank becuase my head is a little mixed up now. Well....basically, I dont have a lot of trouble finding a date and have dated a lot--and am proud that I have been with such intelligent beautiful women--that most guys would be a fool to let go. But mostly it is me who lets them go. And I do feel like a fool...that is, until I meet another incredible person-- until i feel like a fool again. That is how I see it- never as a fling or 'just someone to date', but very special, meaningful moments with someone on our meandering paths through life. The thing is, that after a few years, it does start to feel a little meaningless. Yeah I have these great moments around the world with great people, but everything is always fleeting- nothing to hold on to for very long. The futility is suffocating. I am not a womanizer so much as a spontaneous romantic. I really cherish those memories, and am always very honest, respectable and never a cheat or anything like that. But there is an emotional wake that affects these other people and definitely takes a toll on me. I guess I just wonder what it all means--if anything. Is it just a part of being young in my twenties or have I let THE ONE I love slip through my hands? Big questions I know...and I realize you've had some big shifts in your love life, but also some retrospect and self-reliance. I generally internalize my emotions and they build up, but you're the one person I can let it out to....so I apologize for the flood of information, but you've always helped in the past."

How do I help him when I flounder as well?


Firstly JLB I would like to say I sooo admire your relationship with your son. He seems like a well rounded , intelligent and understading person.............Kudos.

I tried to imagine if it was me, who received this from my son / daughter. I know I would feel honoured if they were able to speak to me in such a way.

It is a very hard thing for me to give advice on as I have let two very special Ladies go, for different reasons.

I do feel though, when we know someone is right for us we should grasp it with both hands. I do think a lot of relationships end because of timing in our lives and when we find someone where the timing is right for both of us, we know it and should grasp it.

If it was I, I would tell him that he will know when it is right for him to settle and not to do it until it feels right. I would also advise that he doesnt get too emotionally involved, once he knows that it's not what he wants as the emotional wake he feels, can take its toll.
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Apr 26, 2009 2:42 PM CST From the mouths of babes
CaptainBeirutIII
CaptainBeirutIIICaptainBeirutIIILondon, Greater London, England UK95 Threads 1 Polls 1,186 Posts
Excuse me for the language I am about to use here, but sometimes you really can't replace words because that one says it best:

What a fu**ing fantastic relationship you must have with your son, and what a brilliant young man he seems to be!
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Apr 26, 2009 5:45 PM CST From the mouths of babes
Thalassa
ThalassaThalassaRome, Lazio Italy104 Threads 2,410 Posts
Thank you all...I know that I am blessed with such a relationship with my son(s)...and I do appreciate the input. I shall read it all again tomorrow. I like to absorb things a bit. hug
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Apr 26, 2009 5:51 PM CST From the mouths of babes
virgiomonkey
virgiomonkeyvirgiomonkeyAuckland, New Zealand4,241 Posts
tainogirl: Now I'm not a psychologist but here goes:

The twenties I see as a time of self discovery, The time when we get to know through trial and error who we really are and want we want. Some figure this out early some later. With time, experience, maturity and self-awareness we hopefuly make better decisions for ourselves in terms of a partner. When we meet new people a little more of the puzzle comes together to rule out whether this person has the values we are looking for or not. Your son is still pretty young and dealing with some of the same dilemas many of us went through at that age. He is simply trying to find out who he is. He is young and there is still plenty of time to find Miss Right. All he needs to do is be upfront and honest with these ladies so everyone know where they stand. I've learned our children don't always expect us to be perfect or have the perfect answers all the time. Making their own decisions in life is part of allowing them to grow up. Most of the times all they need to know is that they have a soft place to fall back on as they go through this growing up process. Hope I helped a little.


......Nicely said...and couldn't have worded any better..and very correct as well.....thumbs up thumbs up hug

J.D
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Apr 26, 2009 5:56 PM CST From the mouths of babes
whitesoul
whitesoulwhitesoulrome, Lazio Italy6 Threads 142 Posts
You have grown one young great fellow....more then what you have allready achieved, done or you are allready doing is so much more then what other mothers have done....

if your really want my stupid little and inexperienced comment... well just continue like you are.... for us, little ones, it is extremely important to have a parent, mostly the mother, to have as a best friend, confident and shoulder to rely on.

just keep up the amazing work. tip hat
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Apr 26, 2009 6:06 PM CST From the mouths of babes
Thalassa
ThalassaThalassaRome, Lazio Italy104 Threads 2,410 Posts
whitesoul: You have grown one young great fellow....more then what you have allready achieved, done or you are allready doing is so much more then what other mothers have done....

if your really want my stupid little and inexperienced comment... well just continue like you are.... for us, little ones, it is extremely important to have a parent, mostly the mother, to have as a best friend, confident and shoulder to rely on.

just keep up the amazing work.


Thank you, Whitesoul sweetie! This is indeed my proudest accomplishment....2 amazing young sons.
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Apr 26, 2009 6:17 PM CST From the mouths of babes
nurcnurc
nurcnurcnurcnurcLongwood, Florida USA6 Threads 1,192 Posts
Wonderful advice all around jlb. I know you will be reflecting on what your son has said and what your own experiences have taught you through the years. I would only add that he not to look back at what he has done thus far (in regards to romantic pursuits) with regret. Choices made, even on the short term, are made because it is the right one for the time. We shouldn't regret choosing one path over another as it brings us to where we are at the moment. Reflection of the past and knowing what we have learned thus far is better for serving our purpose in finding happiness. No matter whether it's romantic in nature or not.

JMO

Best to him and to you. Kudos in raising a fine, sensitive son.

teddybear
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Apr 26, 2009 6:19 PM CST From the mouths of babes
Thalassa
ThalassaThalassaRome, Lazio Italy104 Threads 2,410 Posts
Dan and Nurc.....2 more posts to absorb. Thank you!
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Apr 26, 2009 6:22 PM CST From the mouths of babes
whitesoul
whitesoulwhitesoulrome, Lazio Italy6 Threads 142 Posts
jlb684: Thank you, Whitesoul sweetie! This is indeed my proudest accomplishment....2 amazing young sons.


angel angel angel angel angel angel angel

banana banana I got a new mummy banana banana

yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay
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Apr 26, 2009 6:28 PM CST From the mouths of babes
Thalassa
ThalassaThalassaRome, Lazio Italy104 Threads 2,410 Posts
whitesoul: I got a new mummy


I love my sons with all my heart and soul, and I love being their Mom...but I am not on Connecting Singles to be a "mummy" to anyone! laugh How about if we forget the "Mom" stuff for now, ok? rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 26, 2009 6:45 PM CST From the mouths of babes
nurcnurc
nurcnurcnurcnurcLongwood, Florida USA6 Threads 1,192 Posts
But jlb....he may have a wonderful "Daddy" to introduce you to! laugh
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Apr 26, 2009 7:46 PM CST From the mouths of babes
lrrh77
lrrh77lrrh77college station, Texas USA5 Threads 1,451 Posts
I agree with most of what's been said. You're relationship with your son is awesome. And he sounds like a wonderfull person that's been lucky to experience his life with such great women. I'm sure they learned and enjoyed just as he did. I think his feelings are simply him maturing. He feels its time to take things more serious. That's not a bad thing. Has he missed THE ONE dunno only he knows. If there's a doubt about one of those women being the one he could try calling them up or just move on with his eyes wide open.

Either way. He sounds like he'll be just fine. Whether spontanusly being romantic or finding the one to share his life with. He writes very passionately and as long as he keeps that passion in life he'll find happyness. bouquet

Hope this helps.
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Apr 27, 2009 6:14 AM CST From the mouths of babes
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
jlb.

What a beautiful letter. And how wonderful he can write to you in this way.

I don't think you need to help him, because I do not think he is floundering at all. I think he is using his thoughts and transcribing them on paper to let you know that he is working his way through his feelings. And how fantastic is that?

I have a son, who is 21 in June. We have a relationship that is similar to that of you and your son.

He is now in the US finishing his studies, and oh how I miss him, deeply. He has similar thoughts and doubts about the women in his life and has dipped his toe in that hot water many times and been burnt, usually coming home to mum for a sob and a sleep and Shepherd's Pie.

We can't do anything, jlb, we can hug, mop their brow if they get hurt or they feel they have hurt and guide them through it as we do ourselves.

My son has written to me, when he first moved there, was scared a little, but I told him not to let fear stand in his way, three months later, of course there are women involved he is doing okay, he is doing more than okay and is busy charming the people there with his Britishness.

He wrote me, stating that he missed me, a cool, young man, who looks like he is never troubled yet he has made the most fantastic partner in the past and he will again. They are learning about their feelings and romance is a part of that learning curve and we all learn as we wake each day.

YOu are not floundering, neither is he. It is simply evidence of what a wonderful young man he is and what a fantastic mother and parent and person you are.

Beautiful.
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