I think it's been said previously, but WHAT WE ARE TOLD (and I capitalized that for emphasis, highlighting the fact that I DO recognize that we are getting our information in this manner... quite normally so, as that is what "media" is all about and none of us were eyeswitnesses)...but I digress.... What we are told is that bin Laden was also shooting, so an arrest MAY not have been an option, anyway. But, let's face it.. you don't send Special Forces in to make an arrest, right? So, yeah...I believe that the mission was clearly to take him out, and I believe we did just that. As for video of the operation, I believe also that there is such evidence. The President, the Vice President, and most of the Cabinet were watching the operation as it ensued. And I find this TRULY interesting...not because of the picture of them watching it, but because of WHERE they were watching it. That small room (if you've seen the picture) was clearly NOT the Situation Room. They were fairly well crammed in to a room that we've never seen in other pictures, to my recollection. So what do I take from this? I think that they were in a different, less visible location so as to keep the mission as covert and tightly held as possible. All of the Cabinet members being herded into the Situation Room late on Sunday night would have raised some flags and they wanted to avoid any visibility.
I could go on and on, but at the end of the day, we will likely not see eye to eye.
But that's ok with me. The thing about beliefs is that we all hold to those that feel right for us, regardless of what others believe. That doesn't make mine more right than yours (although it IS! LOL).
BB, you've taken the opposite tack...I ask what proof you would require that he WAS killed 2 nights ago? Seeing him live on Oprah would highly DIS-prove it.
I ask what proof would convince you that we did as we said we did...and when we said we did it?
All I want to know, from all those who believe that either (a) he died years ago, or (b) he's not dead even now... What would it take to convince you? Seriously...what do you need to see or hear that would seal the deal and convince you that this operation took place and that he was indeed killed during that operation?
I find it amusing that many claim to want "proof", yet offer none of their own in support of their claims. Where's the proof that he died in 2003? Where's the proof that he's alive even now?
What evidence would you require to change your opinion?
Yes, it is different when you're a potential target. I know this all too well myself, though (luckily) I haven't been a victim, though many of my colleagues have, over the years. A great number of my colleagues were killed in U.S. Embassy bombings that Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for, among many other attacks. Today in Nairobi, there were tears of joy...
It has been less than 24 hours since this operation took place. I can only imagine what's going on behind the scenes as we all sit and discuss this. Hours and hours of debriefing, photo analysis, intelligence analysis and reporting, probably even a little time for the individuals involved to do a little celebrating and catch some sleep. I believe that there is no way that they would have tossed him into the sea without having all the proof and evidence needed. Nor do I believe that it was a spur-of-the-moment decision to do so. The choreography of this event didn't happen within the last 24 hours with haphazard last-minute decisions. These decisions would have been made well in advance of the operation.
Seriously think about this, J. Do you REALLY think that someone said "Hey, guys, now that we've got his body, what shall we do with it?" And someone replies, "Hell, let's toss him in the water!" Another one seconds that motion and so they did it that way? Oh, no, no, no. This would have been already planned. He wanted to be a martyr; we denied him the opportunity to have flowers and candles and letters and photos exhibited at a gravesite, no matter where it may have been. I'm quite ok with that call.
Now we're heading towards a new debate, aren't we? (By the way... LOVED the pics on Boom-Boom's thread!). The debate would be whether or not the ends justify the means. It is my personal opinion that in this case, the ends DID justify the means. Bin Laden has been the number one target for years now, and in my mind, rightfully so. I'm not so naive to believe that cutting off the head will kill the animal, but I have no shame in admitting that I'm glad that he's dead. We wanted him and we got him. Had he died a natural death, we certainly would never have heard the end of it from around the globe. Many won't agree with me, and I'm ok with that...but we NEEDED to get him. And I, for one, am quite pleased that the last thing he saw was an American Navy Seal pointing his gun at his head. And and to you, too!
Yes, it's very suspicious. I wouldn't think twice about sending her a response -- as YOURSELF, not as him -- and reminding her that he is a married man and you are his wife. I would also not think twice about telling him exactly what you did. If he's worried about what SHE will think or how she will react and not worried about how this makes YOU feel....well, there's a problem. There is no reason for him to be communicating with other women, unless you are all friends or you are fully a part. Period. No reason. If he doesn't agree, ask him why.
Sorry, garden, but I don't buy this. OK...so Trump had success as an executive, but he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, as his father was a successful real estate developer. Personally, I feel that the Obamas of the world -- those who are truly self-made, not born into their notoreity -- these are the ones who are truly successful. Success is not inherited, it's earned. For Barack Obama to be President...well, this is a success that was earned, not inherited. Like him or not, he beat many odds. The only odds in Trump's favor are probably best considered in one of his casinos.
I don't know how long you've been here or how actively you're trying to meet someone, but just look at this as another avenue. It may not be the route that will lead you to your ultimate partner in life, but this is at least another option. Whether you find your special someone here or in a bar or at work or in the grocery store or wherever...this is irrelevant. You want to find someone and so you put yourself out there as an open and receptive man. This is what we do here. It works for some, doesn't work for others (I am in the latter group); but, again, it's an avenue. Close this road and you simply close doors and possibilities. Open them and.....well, who knows?
Yes, I'm scared....plenty scared...politics seems to be getting uglier and uglier and I dislike it immensely. I just abhor the thought that we might put someone in our highest office simply because he has a recognizable name. We lean towards that many times (as many other nations do), but Trump would bring nothing other than his arrogance, his ego, and his creepy and smarmy personna.
I haven't read through all the posts, but I'll respond to you, Alias.... You should absolutely be proud of expressing yourself (and the same applies to all whose native language is not English). Many of you speak a more pure and precise English than those of us who were born and raised with this language. Do be proud. The ability to communicate well with others from different nations is the first step...and the best way...to connect and unify. Cheers to all of you who do so well with a language that is not your first.
Ohhhhhhhh....I cannot even pretend to imagine the agony. All I can say is this....surround precious Sven with all the love, hugs, and kisses possible. And from this horribly tragic situation, this little child will not know what he is up against; he will only know the love that surrounds him.
All I know is this... If Donald Trump should somehow be elected President, I am seeking marriage from ANY man, ANY country -- other than the U.S. It doesn't have to be a long marriage; just long enough for me to establish residency and get a job.
Makes it rather lonely for those of us who didn't grow up here, doesn't it? I must say, I've been very surprised at how things are here in Cyprus. I've made "friendships" with Cypriots, insofar as having a laugh and good conversation, sharing stories and dreams, etc. But when I invite someone to join me for a coffee or to go to a movie or dinner or something, they never accept. And I know it's not me because I've never had this happen anywhere else I've lived (and I've lived in 5 countries other than my own). In Greece, I would have been invited to many homes for Easter meal. But here.... I just don't understand why I can't seem to break in. I feel a huge disconnect, sadly.
Hey, Tax... Will there be any tavernas open on Sunday anywhere? I want a traditional lamb dinner and I don't know if there will be any place for me to have an Easter meal. Any ideas? Kalo Pasxa!
I happen to like wearing make-up, though I don't overdo it. My lips actually FEEL better with lipstick and my eyes are brought out more with a bit of liner and mascara. So, I wear make-up whenever I go out, whether or not it is with a man. I get it that men want women to be women....and vice-versa. But womanhood is not defined by wearing of make-up or nail polish, anymore than being a man is defined by one's use of a remote control or prowess at taking out the trash.
Femininity and masculinity are innate characteristics, seen differently by different people...and they cannot be bought at a cosmetics store (or a hardware store).
John, you need to use your QUOTE button so people will know to whom you are responding. And, since you didn't reference anyone, I'm confused. Who called Christians radicals and terrorists? Did I miss a post?
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RE: The beatles: the best song
In My Life....I tell my sons that this is the song I want played when I die. In My Life, I've Loved Them All.