Eating disorders (68)
Laura25: Oh wow... I looked at this link.
It is so very wrong, IMO!
This family had been victimised. Wouldn't helping parents be the a logical, fair and much-cheaper-for-taxpayers thing to do?
So-so sad...
I've read somewhere about a young family of three. The parents and their 2 year-old were grossly obese.
When the child was 2yo, both parents had stomach stapling or gastric banding surgery.
In a following half a year, the child's weight normalized. Just like that.
This is the case of a healthy child influenced by his parents' way of life.
It is so very wrong, IMO!
This family had been victimised. Wouldn't helping parents be the a logical, fair and much-cheaper-for-taxpayers thing to do?
So-so sad...
I've read somewhere about a young family of three. The parents and their 2 year-old were grossly obese.
When the child was 2yo, both parents had stomach stapling or gastric banding surgery.
In a following half a year, the child's weight normalized. Just like that.
This is the case of a healthy child influenced by his parents' way of life.
I think this is most peoples problem, tho i am not a doctor, i do know what wrong influence, and Lack of Motivation can do, in any area of life, as described about the drinking and smoking , and even a habit of throwing dirt clothes on the floor, It is influenced by others, in most cases, if Mom ALLOWS IT, IT WILL Happen...... If the Law allowed Prostution, it would be Outragious.....
I am one who does not believe in CANT!!!!!!
Where there is a will, there is a way......
CANT, is an Excuse.....
Sho me Cant..... Either you do or you dont! Cant dont digest well with me..... Tho yes, one must look at Cause and effect,
The Cause is the fire, and the effect is the smoke,,,,
Many chase the smoke..... instead of realising the Fire is the problem, and so knowing that, they choose to NOT...... because it is hard, thay say I cant..... Thats for Kids, adults with a good mind, do whatever it takes, if they fail, they try another way, till they Master the problem, instead of give up, saying I Cant.....
I have seen Guys with NO legs, walk, or stride, because "No" didnt work for them,,, They did what it takes, and become mail carriers, with no legs, walking on their knuckles with their determination..... they dont accept NO, or Cant
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i have a cousin that was born with prader willie syndrome, they are hungry all the time, they get so hungry they will eat anything from laundry soap, dirt, ect. they gain weight profusely, locks have to be installed on refridgerators and cabinets. i'm not saying all children that are over weight have this syndrome but parents should be aware of such .
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wildkitty: i have a cousin that was born with prader willie syndrome, they are hungry all the time, they get so hungry they will eat anything from laundry soap, dirt, ect. they gain weight profusely, locks have to be installed on refridgerators and cabinets. i'm not saying all children that are over weight have this syndrome but parents should be aware of such .
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HotrodLarrys: I think this is most peoples problem, tho i am not a doctor, i do know what wrong influence, and Lack of Motivation can do, in any area of life, as described about the drinking and smoking , and even a habit of throwing dirt clothes on the floor, It is influenced by others, in most cases, if Mom ALLOWS IT, IT WILL Happen...... If the Law allowed Prostution, it would be Outragious.....
I am one who does not believe in CANT!!!!!!
Where there is a will, there is a way......
CANT, is an Excuse.....
Sho me Cant..... Either you do or you dont! Cant dont digest well with me..... Tho yes, one must look at Cause and effect, The Cause is the fire, and the effect is the smoke,,,,
Many chase the smoke..... instead of realising the Fire is the problem, and so knowing that, they choose to NOT...... because it is hard, thay say I cant..... Thats for Kids, adults with a good mind, do whatever it takes, if they fail, they try another way, till they Master the problem, instead of give up, saying I Cant.....
I have seen Guys with NO legs, walk, or stride, because "No" didnt work for them,,, They did what it takes, and become mail carriers, with no legs, walking on their knuckles with their determination..... they dont accept NO, or Cant
I am one who does not believe in CANT!!!!!!
Where there is a will, there is a way......
CANT, is an Excuse.....
Sho me Cant..... Either you do or you dont! Cant dont digest well with me..... Tho yes, one must look at Cause and effect, The Cause is the fire, and the effect is the smoke,,,,
Many chase the smoke..... instead of realising the Fire is the problem, and so knowing that, they choose to NOT...... because it is hard, thay say I cant..... Thats for Kids, adults with a good mind, do whatever it takes, if they fail, they try another way, till they Master the problem, instead of give up, saying I Cant.....
I have seen Guys with NO legs, walk, or stride, because "No" didnt work for them,,, They did what it takes, and become mail carriers, with no legs, walking on their knuckles with their determination..... they dont accept NO, or Cant
In general, you are right - self discipline and self motivation would be enough...
But did you read about this illness - Prada Willi Syndrome? Morgan mentioned it and Trish posted a link. I never heard of it before.
And since it's a chromosomal disorder, the range of degree can be from mild to severe
It was first described in 1956. I would imagine many go undiagnosed, especially those with a mild disorder. I mean, how many people are being seen by a geneticist
My point, these people suffer their entire lives not just from the illness, but also from all kinds of derogatory comments and from others looking down upon them.
I also think there are other illnesses that may cause it. We just don't know.
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Laura25: In many cases with children, in a nutshell - yes... But NOT necessarily just overfeeding. Many parents are not aware that the same portion of similar food can be anywhere in a range between 150 and 1000 cal. In US to eat right and healthy, you have to be very comfartable financially. Otherwise - you'll eat what's available: chip and crappy. Of course it won't make one obese... just overweight and unhealthy.
You keep saying that, but it's so untrue.
If you ever are in NYC, come to midtown Manhattan at lunch hours and look around. You'll barely see a-few-extra-pounds people, definitely less that 5%.
You keep saying that, but it's so untrue.
If you ever are in NYC, come to midtown Manhattan at lunch hours and look around. You'll barely see a-few-extra-pounds people, definitely less that 5%.
I was twice there ( in NY too) and i have never seen so many fat people in my life before, sorry even it is just what i have seen there. And ok it is not easy to eat right and healthy in the States ( just ask yourself why...) but not impossible, you just need to learn cooking...
Another question, does this disease also exist in Asia or Africa?
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By the way i have also seen a lot of fat american people on other websites
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HotrodLarrys: I could be all wrong, But to me it becomes an Obsession, and a Mind thing, as such is Alcoholism is called a Diesease....
Tho it is mote an addiction, such as I QUIT 6 yrs ago... It is to over power ones own Mind, and same a Addicvtion, of Tobacco...., one of the strongest habits and addictions to break, so they give it a Fancy name, just as alcololism is a Diease, Ha, yes, an it can be Hereditary, passed thru the blood of an infant.... Many are born, addicted to CoCaine.....
so I quit smoking 6 months ago, I still have that desire to Smoke........ I DONT..... I have refrained, and i have refrained from Alcohol
It takes self esteem , Desire, and want too....
and yess it is hard, and takes self motivation, and alot of it to win,
I think their Mentally Addicted........
And mind over matter, can win, if so desired, but many use the excuse, I CANT
I have to work at it , and set my mind to win, or overcome..... so can they, but i do feel they must want too, not just want others to feel they have no options..... They have options, just as i had options, I did it..... so they must too
Tho it is mote an addiction, such as I QUIT 6 yrs ago... It is to over power ones own Mind, and same a Addicvtion, of Tobacco...., one of the strongest habits and addictions to break, so they give it a Fancy name, just as alcololism is a Diease, Ha, yes, an it can be Hereditary, passed thru the blood of an infant.... Many are born, addicted to CoCaine.....
so I quit smoking 6 months ago, I still have that desire to Smoke........ I DONT..... I have refrained, and i have refrained from Alcohol
It takes self esteem , Desire, and want too....
and yess it is hard, and takes self motivation, and alot of it to win,
I think their Mentally Addicted........
And mind over matter, can win, if so desired, but many use the excuse, I CANT
I have to work at it , and set my mind to win, or overcome..... so can they, but i do feel they must want too, not just want others to feel they have no options..... They have options, just as i had options, I did it..... so they must too
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Laura25: Larry, I agree that it can be a mind thing, emotional problems thing, or an addiction learnt in a family from the very first days of one's life.
But keep in mind that one does NOT need alcohol or sigs to SURVIVE, food is different - a person who is addicted cannot go cold turkey with food.
I also believe there are cases of illness that prevents people from helping themselves. For such people no amount of self-motivation or will power makes a big difference.
But keep in mind that one does NOT need alcohol or sigs to SURVIVE, food is different - a person who is addicted cannot go cold turkey with food.
I also believe there are cases of illness that prevents people from helping themselves. For such people no amount of self-motivation or will power makes a big difference.
One doesnt need to eat so much meat and dairy products neigher to survive so?
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I think its family influence...Im really pissed off when ill see overweight parents with overweight kids...If they couldent take care of them at least they can do for the kids..
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Nettermann: By the way i have also seen a lot of fat american people on other websites
Hey Fatty,how come you are so obsessed with American Fat People?
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I once had a terrible eating dissorder, can you believe that ? I would go for days without eating. 
All better now !!
All better now !!
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jeepers: I once had a terrible eating dissorder, can you believe that ? I would go for days without eating.
All better now !!
But you had to take Liquids?All better now !!
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Conrad73: But you had to take Liquids?
Yes,,,rum. 
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jeepers: Yes,,,rum.
Water would have been better!
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Conrad73: Water would have been better!
Had I been drinking water, I would have probably been eating !! 
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jeepers: Had I been drinking water, I would have probably been eating !!
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Nettermann: One doesnt need to eat so much meat and dairy products neigher to survive so?
No, of course not.
But that wasn't the point...
Larry and I were talking about addictions and he said that going "cold turkey" is the best way, because it worked for him with alcohol and sigs.
I just pointed out that for food addicts, battling their addictions by going "cold turkey" might yield totally opposite results...
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jeepers: I once had a terrible eating dissorder, can you believe that ? I would go for days without eating.
All better now !!
All better now !!
OMG! Me too, Jeeps... In my late teens.
I had this odd book about Tibetan Yoga monks practicing it (or something of this sort, don't remember exactly) ...
But it had nothing to do with
\/\/\/ jeepers: Yes,,,rum.
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The child should be removed from the parents, and placed temporarily with a family that treats food for its principal purpose...nutrition.
Then the child's parents undergo deucation on healthy cooking and nutrition, however long that takes.
It's a crime to have that happen to a child.
This girl was temporarily removed from her mother(a single parent) who was overweight herself but still weighed less than her child at the age of 3.
The girl was put into a hospital, I think, not into another family. And they made mother to undergo an educational program on nutrition and physical activity.
The girl was succesful in loosing weight and happy being finaly able to walk.
But still was crying and saying she was ALWAYS hungry.