Should the US abandon the profit-driven healthcare system? (12)
Yes the US should abandon the profit driven healthcare system and go to a single payer system. Contrary to what people say it's NOT free. you still pay for it. But in countries that have it they pay on average half of what the US pays per capita for a better health care system.
For those who whine that they don't want a Socialist health care system, I suggest they go look up the definition of a socialist program and they will find out it simply means PUBLIC program. Examples of existing socialist (public) programs in the US are;
Social Security
Military
Police
Fire
Universities
Schools
Highways
Airports
Park Systems
The list goes on and on.
So if you are against Public (socialist) programs make sure you don't use any of the above.
For those who whine that they don't want a Socialist health care system, I suggest they go look up the definition of a socialist program and they will find out it simply means PUBLIC program. Examples of existing socialist (public) programs in the US are;
Social Security
Military
Police
Fire
Universities
Schools
Highways
Airports
Park Systems
The list goes on and on.
So if you are against Public (socialist) programs make sure you don't use any of the above.
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I'd like to think Life is a bit more important than Profit... I'm not at all sure the Republicans would agree however. 
- Michael
- Michael
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rickjc25: Yes the US should abandon the profit driven healthcare system and go to a single payer system. Contrary to what people say it's NOT free. you still pay for it. But in countries that have it they pay on average half of what the US pays per capita for a better health care system.
For those who whine that they don't want a Socialist health care system, I suggest they go look up the definition of a socialist program and they will find out it simply means PUBLIC program. Examples of existing socialist (public) programs in the US are;
Social Security
Military
Police
Fire
Universities
Schools
Highways
Airports
Park Systems
The list goes on and on.
So if you are against Public (socialist) programs make sure you don't use any of the above.
For those who whine that they don't want a Socialist health care system, I suggest they go look up the definition of a socialist program and they will find out it simply means PUBLIC program. Examples of existing socialist (public) programs in the US are;
Social Security
Military
Police
Fire
Universities
Schools
Highways
Airports
Park Systems
The list goes on and on.
So if you are against Public (socialist) programs make sure you don't use any of the above.
And thank you, sir for that comment and response and for your insight and knowledge of existing socialist public programs.
And Hello, to you.
S
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rob4u777: And thank you, sir for that comment and response and for your insight and knowledge of existing socialist public programs.
And Hello, to you.
S
And Hello, to you.
S
Republicans I know (unfortunately I begin to think these days!) use the term "Socialism" like it's a dirty word or something. We're all supposed to go running for the hills at the mere mention of a proposed "socialist" program. Good grief Charlie Brown!
I believe we're just taking the best of what each system of government around the world offers and making it a part of our own. A pure Capatilist system is just as corrupt as a pure Socialist system, pure Communist system or any other system one can come up with. There is no 1 perfect form of government, each and every one has it's failings.
- Michael
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rickjc25: Yes the US should abandon the profit driven healthcare system and go to a single payer system. Contrary to what people say it's NOT free. you still pay for it. But in countries that have it they pay on average half of what the US pays per capita for a better health care system.
For those who whine that they don't want a Socialist health care system, I suggest they go look up the definition of a socialist program and they will find out it simply means PUBLIC program. Examples of existing socialist (public) programs in the US are;
Social Security
Military
Police
Fire
Universities
Schools
Highways
Airports
Park Systems
The list goes on and on.
So if you are against Public (socialist) programs make sure you don't use any of the above.
For those who whine that they don't want a Socialist health care system, I suggest they go look up the definition of a socialist program and they will find out it simply means PUBLIC program. Examples of existing socialist (public) programs in the US are;
Social Security
Military
Police
Fire
Universities
Schools
Highways
Airports
Park Systems
The list goes on and on.
So if you are against Public (socialist) programs make sure you don't use any of the above.
Do you have a healthcare insurance plan? How does that proces work for you?
Do you have a co-payment plan?
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Michael211_2000: Republicans I know (unfortunately I begin to think these days!) use the term "Socialism" like it's a dirty word or something. We're all supposed to go running for the hills at the mere mention of a proposed "socialist" program. Good grief Charlie Brown!
I believe we're just taking the best of what each system of government around the world offers and making it a part of our own. A pure Capatilist system is just as corrupt as a pure Socialist system, pure Communist system or any other system one can come up with. There is no 1 perfect form of government, each and every one has it's failings.
- Michael
Nice to you again, my brother and Hello, to you. Thanks for your input.I believe we're just taking the best of what each system of government around the world offers and making it a part of our own. A pure Capatilist system is just as corrupt as a pure Socialist system, pure Communist system or any other system one can come up with. There is no 1 perfect form of government, each and every one has it's failings.
- Michael
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Just to give an alternative view.
Rob in your post...you wish us all a pleasant and VERY PRODUCTIVE day. Part of being productive is earning money. So you recognize the need for money earned in a honest manner.
Now let us move that thought to the health care.
You make health care non profit inside a system for profit business and agencies. Even the Gov't (at all levels) runs income producing operations. Do you think that over time, a decade or more, your non profit health care will be as viable or as strong as those for profit business and operations? Or will it lose income and viability?
Why do you think that a number of US Drs are considering leaving the medical profession if health care goes to non profit, single payor or even the public option?
They have had years of gov't intrusion on their business with medicade and medicare. They only see more intrusion coming down the road with this plan. Now is it the 40% figure some have bandied about? I doubt that.
But did watched a Beck show where he had 100 Drs and he found a number of them would leave the profession when polled....and the reason were 1) Gov't would set the fee charged under these plans. 2) Gov't paperwork created.
These plans place health care at the mercy of Gov't. Plain and simeple. Find me a place in the Consitution that gives the gov't that authority? It is not there, my friend.
So when you, as musican.....do a gig.....you expect to paid. The bigger gig and the harder the music, the more you are paid yes?
So why is it, a Dr that goes to med school, practices for a number of years, becomes a expert in his field cannot expect to have income increases along this career path?
Because gov't is going to lock in thier income potential with rate setting of claim payment. Prior approvals for procedure and surgeries. So you will see qualified men and women in health care leaving......
Rob in your post...you wish us all a pleasant and VERY PRODUCTIVE day. Part of being productive is earning money. So you recognize the need for money earned in a honest manner.
Now let us move that thought to the health care.
You make health care non profit inside a system for profit business and agencies. Even the Gov't (at all levels) runs income producing operations. Do you think that over time, a decade or more, your non profit health care will be as viable or as strong as those for profit business and operations? Or will it lose income and viability?
Why do you think that a number of US Drs are considering leaving the medical profession if health care goes to non profit, single payor or even the public option?
They have had years of gov't intrusion on their business with medicade and medicare. They only see more intrusion coming down the road with this plan. Now is it the 40% figure some have bandied about? I doubt that.
But did watched a Beck show where he had 100 Drs and he found a number of them would leave the profession when polled....and the reason were 1) Gov't would set the fee charged under these plans. 2) Gov't paperwork created.
These plans place health care at the mercy of Gov't. Plain and simeple. Find me a place in the Consitution that gives the gov't that authority? It is not there, my friend.
So when you, as musican.....do a gig.....you expect to paid. The bigger gig and the harder the music, the more you are paid yes?
So why is it, a Dr that goes to med school, practices for a number of years, becomes a expert in his field cannot expect to have income increases along this career path?
Because gov't is going to lock in thier income potential with rate setting of claim payment. Prior approvals for procedure and surgeries. So you will see qualified men and women in health care leaving......
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Michael211_2000: Republicans I know (unfortunately I begin to think these days!) use the term "Socialism" like it's a dirty word or something. We're all supposed to go running for the hills at the mere mention of a proposed "socialist" program. Good grief Charlie Brown!
I believe we're just taking the best of what each system of government around the world offers and making it a part of our own. A pure Capatilist system is just as corrupt as a pure Socialist system, pure Communist system or any other system one can come up with. There is no 1 perfect form of government, each and every one has it's failings.
- Michael
Go educate yourself on Capitalism.I believe we're just taking the best of what each system of government around the world offers and making it a part of our own. A pure Capatilist system is just as corrupt as a pure Socialist system, pure Communist system or any other system one can come up with. There is no 1 perfect form of government, each and every one has it's failings.
- Michael
It is a system ran TOTALLY without government Interference.
Only time Government gets involved if a Crime,like Fraud,Theft etc is committed.
Government Officials cannot interfere in the Economic Affairs of the Citizens.
The Economy is separated from Government in the same way as Church and State.
Lets see if any crooked Businessman can run to an equally crooked Politician to "FIX" Things under that system!
You will have to fail or succeed on your own wits,not throttle the ability of your betters with political pull.
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Thinking about this a little more.
Do you think that President Obama has not profited from the capitolist system? Do you think that the he did not renogiate new terms each time he wrote a new book? That as he established himself as writer and orator, as politician and legislature....he kept the same terms for publishing a book as his first?
We know he used some $1.5m from his book sales to finance his home.
So obvious he not against taking money from publishers for his work.
While he would advocate some major change to the US capitol society....for health care is 1/6th of the countries economic.I don't see him requesting restrictions on book royalty rates, or politician speaking engagement fees, or on lawyers fees in mal practice suits. These of course effect him and the DEM in congress abilities to make future income. Effect their quality of life.
So while they would hinder the income potentials of 1000s of Drs....and keep them from the golden ring of economic security in the US. They, themselves would keep the future golden ring available to themselves to grap in the future.
Wish to call that fair?
Do you think that President Obama has not profited from the capitolist system? Do you think that the he did not renogiate new terms each time he wrote a new book? That as he established himself as writer and orator, as politician and legislature....he kept the same terms for publishing a book as his first?
We know he used some $1.5m from his book sales to finance his home.
So obvious he not against taking money from publishers for his work.
While he would advocate some major change to the US capitol society....for health care is 1/6th of the countries economic.I don't see him requesting restrictions on book royalty rates, or politician speaking engagement fees, or on lawyers fees in mal practice suits. These of course effect him and the DEM in congress abilities to make future income. Effect their quality of life.
So while they would hinder the income potentials of 1000s of Drs....and keep them from the golden ring of economic security in the US. They, themselves would keep the future golden ring available to themselves to grap in the future.
Wish to call that fair?
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AND LET GOVERNMENT DECIDE WHAT WE NEED??
I THINK NOT..
I THINK NOT..
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Wall street drives politicians..
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Should the US abandon this profit-driven healthcare system
and give every citizen free quality health care in spite of class and status.
We Americans pay more for Healthcare and get less quality care.
Our Wall Street drive-healthcare system has created one of the most inequitable healthcare system on the planet. I believe there are abuses on a national scale.
Should healthcare executives be allowed to continue their policies?
That literally kills thousands people every year through denied coverage as a result of relentless pressure from Wall Street.