Shfit to Carbon free ecomony will bring peace to earth ? (24)
bollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 PostsMost of the wars fought today is for the world dominance for fuel sources . Oil reserve are getting drained in an alarming rate . future is going to see more wars for oil disguied in many forms . On the other hand many islamic countires funds religous extremists in petro dollars . do you think more research should be taken place in the are of alternate fuel than developing new weaopons ? as to get independece from Oil as fuel ? Do you think It can bring peace to the world ?
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Every plant and every animal, everthing that is living or has ever lived is almost totally composed of carbon and water.
You eat carbon.
You wear carbon.
You heat your home with carbon.
You ARE carbon.
A "carbon-free economy" would be a death economy.
You eat carbon.
You wear carbon.
You heat your home with carbon.
You ARE carbon.
A "carbon-free economy" would be a death economy.
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Peace is not arrived at through wishful thinking . You cannot wish any war away.
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bollywood: Most of the wars fought today is for the world dominance for fuel sources . Oil reserve are getting drained in an alarming rate . future is going to see more wars for oil disguied in many forms . On the other hand many islamic countires funds religous extremists in petro dollars . do you think more research should be taken place in the are of alternate fuel than developing new weaopons ? as to get independece from Oil as fuel ? Do you think It can bring peace to the world ?
Thank you for such a nice question sir. Peace on earth, what can bring it?
Is it not the question for all time? For all humans? Asked for, wished for; the stated goal of every beauty contestant and scholarship applicant, well, most anyway.
I quess that it is not even basic human nature that causes it, because most of us simply want to live free and in peace.
I think that the basic cause is the nature of those who seek power, with influence or wealth.
These power-seekers are only a very few of us humans. Nurturing a "system" of seperation, of deprivation for many. Aristocrats.
Oil, gold, numbers-on-paper, will simply be replaced by... clean-fresh-water~{my guess} ... something else to hord and deny to most.
THERE IS ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE!
Enough air, water and food, FOR EVERY HUMAN, just not enough for everyone to live like an Aristocrat.
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bollywood: Most of the wars fought today is for the world dominance for fuel sources . Oil reserve are getting drained in an alarming rate . future is going to see more wars for oil disguied in many forms . On the other hand many islamic countires funds religous extremists in petro dollars . do you think more research should be taken place in the are of alternate fuel than developing new weaopons ? as to get independece from Oil as fuel ? Do you think It can bring peace to the world ?
I personally would love to see the oil companies go out of business. There is nothing wrong with solar and wind power options; we should be sinking our money there; not destroying nature for oil.
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RayfromUSA: Every plant and every animal, everthing that is living or has ever lived is almost totally composed of carbon and water.
You eat carbon.
You wear carbon.
You heat your home with carbon.
You ARE carbon.
A "carbon-free economy" would be a death economy.
You eat carbon.
You wear carbon.
You heat your home with carbon.
You ARE carbon.
A "carbon-free economy" would be a death economy.
Can we not eat the unemployed like in the movie,'Soylent Green?'
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AmoroArboles:
Peace on earth, what can bring it?
Peace on earth, what can bring it?
Way back in the 80s, the New-World-Order folks established a committee to investigate the functions of war in society and to determine what changes would be necessary in order to do away with war.
It was determined that one of the major functions of war is to waste excess manpower and resources rather than to allow the excess to stifle industrial activity.
Thus war, by its very wastefulness, serves as a sort of economic flywheel to keep all the wheels of industry turning.
In that capacity, the best solution is a war that never really ends, but can be paused at any time and then restarted according to the need of the moment.
Thus the ideal "enemy" is one that doesn't really exist. A phantom that can be called into being when needed, and then folded and put away on the shelf when not in use.
If the fictive war were to be ended once and for all, some other extremely wasteful mechanism would have to be set in place to prevent the buildup of excess, goods, people, energy, and resources.
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oops mistyped the decade.
"Way back in the80s"
Should read
"Way back in the 60s"
"Way back in the
Should read
"Way back in the 60s"
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AmoroArboles: Thank you for such a nice question sir.
Peace on earth, what can bring it?
Is it not the question for all time? For all humans? Asked for, wished for; the stated goal of every beauty contestant and scholarship applicant, well, most anyway.
I quess that it is not even basic human nature that causes it, because most of us simply want to live free and in peace.
I think that the basic cause is the nature of those who seek power, with influence or wealth.
These power-seekers are only a very few of us humans. Nurturing a "system" of seperation, of deprivation for many. Aristocrats.
Oil, gold, numbers-on-paper, will simply be replaced by... clean-fresh-water~{my guess} ... something else to hord and deny to most.
THERE IS ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE!
Enough air, water and food, FOR EVERY HUMAN, just not enough for everyone to live like an Aristocrat.
Peace on earth, what can bring it?
Is it not the question for all time? For all humans? Asked for, wished for; the stated goal of every beauty contestant and scholarship applicant, well, most anyway.
I quess that it is not even basic human nature that causes it, because most of us simply want to live free and in peace.
I think that the basic cause is the nature of those who seek power, with influence or wealth.
These power-seekers are only a very few of us humans. Nurturing a "system" of seperation, of deprivation for many. Aristocrats.
Oil, gold, numbers-on-paper, will simply be replaced by... clean-fresh-water~{my guess} ... something else to hord and deny to most.
THERE IS ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE!
Enough air, water and food, FOR EVERY HUMAN, just not enough for everyone to live like an Aristocrat.
Thanks for your post . It brought to me the famous saying or Sri Mahatima Gandhi - " There is enough for everybody's needs but not for greeds ".
Well , most of the wars are fought for resource security , or dominace for its sources. including whats is going on in Afganistan and Iraq . The not replenishable rescource that run the economy is oil . If we could replace that with easly available or replenishable resouces, I believe these wars will come to an end.
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bollywood: Most of the wars fought today is for the world dominance for fuel sources . Oil reserve are getting drained in an alarming rate . future is going to see more wars for oil disguied in many forms . On the other hand many islamic countires funds religous extremists in petro dollars . do you think more research should be taken place in the are of alternate fuel than developing new weaopons ? as to get independece from Oil as fuel ? Do you think It can bring peace to the world ?
with "man" there will always be something to fight about....no, it would'nt make one bit of difference...
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navygirl1: There is nothing wrong with solar and wind power options; we should be sinking our money there; not destroying nature for oil.
Solar and wind power are not really "options".
Solar power might help a little to heat and light houses.
But there is no way it can replace fossile fuel for transportation.
The only real non-fossile alternative is nuclear power, and it's far more dangerous to the environment than Carbon Dioxide.
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bollywood: Thanks for your post . It brought to me the famous saying or Sri Mahatima Gandhi - " There is enough for everybody's needs but not for greeds ".
Well , most of the wars are fought for resource security , or dominace for its sources. including whats is going on in Afganistan and Iraq . The not replenishable rescource that run the economy is oil . If we could replace that with easly available or replenishable resouces, I believe these wars will come to an end.
Well , most of the wars are fought for resource security , or dominace for its sources. including whats is going on in Afganistan and Iraq . The not replenishable rescource that run the economy is oil . If we could replace that with easly available or replenishable resouces, I believe these wars will come to an end.
Your ideas are very welcome. Uplifting too.Current, mass-produced technologies for transportation are fossel-fuel dependent. True, Ray. Now.
Clean, renewable, sustainable technologies, MUST be phased in. Oil is a finite-human-resource, regardless of who controls the remaining supply. WHEN it runs out, other ways must be invented.
We humans are very resourceful and innovative. We consistantly invent better and more efficient ways.
Solar/electric has great potential. It is even "off-the-shelf" and driving around now. Tidal and wind, also a good direction for our future energy needs, in my opinion.
Perhaps even reviving the "family farm." Transportation needs can be easily diminished if we did not transport food an average of 1800 miles!
Sustainable communities may also diminish the demand for transportaion. Many happy, low-stress life-styles do not involve a car!
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bollywood: Most of the wars fought today is for the world dominance for fuel sources . Oil reserve are getting drained in an alarming rate . future is going to see more wars for oil disguied in many forms . On the other hand many islamic countires funds religous extremists in petro dollars . do you think more research should be taken place in the are of alternate fuel than developing new weaopons ? as to get independece from Oil as fuel ? Do you think It can bring peace to the world ?
I've been listening closely to the statements of our military officers when they are asked "why do you fight?"
They consistantly say, "to defend our way of life."
Honest, and to-the-point.
I feel that our unsustainable "way of life," needs to change. I believe that it must and will change. The only question in my mind is: will we let the change just happen, or will we takes steps to make certain that it is a good change?
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RayfromUSA: Every plant and every animal, everthing that is living or has ever lived is almost totally composed of carbon and water.
You eat carbon.
You wear carbon.
You heat your home with carbon.
You ARE carbon.
A "carbon-free economy" would be a death economy.
You eat carbon.
You wear carbon.
You heat your home with carbon.
You ARE carbon.
A "carbon-free economy" would be a death economy.
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RayfromUSA: Solar and wind power are not really "options".
Solar power might help a little to heat and light houses.
But there is no way it can replace fossile fuel for transportation.
The only real non-fossile alternative is nuclear power, and it's far more dangerous to the environment than Carbon Dioxide.
Solar power might help a little to heat and light houses.
But there is no way it can replace fossile fuel for transportation.
The only real non-fossile alternative is nuclear power, and it's far more dangerous to the environment than Carbon Dioxide.
It's this kind of ignorant backwards thinking that'll get Bush back in for a third term ..........
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RayfromUSA: Solar and wind power are not really "options".
Solar power might help a little to heat and light houses.
But there is no way it can replace fossile fuel for transportation.
The only real non-fossile alternative is nuclear power, and it's far more dangerous to the environment than Carbon Dioxide.
Solar power might help a little to heat and light houses.
But there is no way it can replace fossile fuel for transportation.
The only real non-fossile alternative is nuclear power, and it's far more dangerous to the environment than Carbon Dioxide.
That's actually not true. Build 2 power stations, 1 coal fired and 1 nuclear and run them both for 100 years. More will die from the carcinogens and the like coming from the coal fired station. The only reason nuclear is noticed is that the deaths happen at the one time.
The replacement for transportation will one day come from hydrogen cells. You'll actually be able to power your house from your car.
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jvaski: It's this kind of ignorant backwards thinking that'll get Bush back in for a third term ..........
He was just stating a fact.
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Godsgift: That's actually not true. Build 2 power stations, 1 coal fired and 1 nuclear and run them both for 100 years. More will die from the carcinogens and the like coming from the coal fired station. The only reason nuclear is noticed is that the deaths happen at the one time.The replacement for transportation will one day come from hydrogen cells. You'll actually be able to power your house from your car.
You are an expert on the causes of death?
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power from your car is not economically feasible. when they get around to making this possible, there will be better ways to get power but don't expect technology to improeve overnight. There is no conspiracy to keep it from happening but you won't see any of this soon.
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Godsgift: Build 2 power stations, 1 coal fired and 1 nuclear and run them both for 100 years. More will die from the carcinogens and the like coming from the coal fired station.
Not likely.
Truth is, long before the 100 years is up, both plants will be obsolete and will have to be destroyed and replaced. The coal waste, "slag" will have some radiation (from uranium, radium and other naturally occuring contaminants in the coal) and they will be more concentrated in the slag than they were in nature, but not so much so that they can't be buried safely.
The waste from the nuclear power plant, on the other hand will remain dangerously radioactive for centuries. It cannot be safely buried at all. Even if vitrified and stored in deep underground rock formations it will remain a deadly danger in case of earthquakes or groundwater infiltrations.
And then there will be the inevitable accidents, mistakes, negilgences and intentional sabotage that are always associated with any big human project.
It is total delusion to claim that the use of coal would generate more cancer than the use of nuclear power.
The oceans around Britain are heavily contaminated from nuclear waste that has been leaking for 40 years from one of the UK's first nuclear power plants.
Multiply that by EVERY power plant. Because they will all leak one of these days. No matter how carefully they may be run. It's just not possible to foresee all the problems that can arise when the waste remains dangerous for hundreds of centuries.
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