Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in. ( Archived) (67)

May 5, 2010 11:33 AM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
AthenzGirl
AthenzGirlAthenzGirlAthens, Attica Greece5 Threads 59 Posts
rizlared: How easy is it to get a job as an English Teacher? I hope to move to Greece at some time, in fact I want to retire there to maybe Rhodes or Crete, but would like to teach for a few years first.
I have been told that now, due to the crisis, they are no taking on Foreign teachers, even well qualified and experienced ones.


Honestly Riz, I dunno! because here, its very much a case of 'who you know' if you get my drift.
If you have a Greek friend, you are very lucky - in many ways hug
I do more 'nannying' than actual teaching, which is a bit frustrating at times, but mostly Im happy that I have a job, and am supporting myself.
Greeks can be crazy at times, but they can also show extraordinary kindness and caring.
My advice to you would be - sure, try some teaching but be prepared to be also tutor, babysitter, gardener, driver, plumber, bartender or something else. Look on it as a big adventure!
head banger
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May 5, 2010 11:33 AM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
rizlared: How easy is it to get a job as an English Teacher? I hope to move to Greece at some time, in fact I want to retire there to maybe Rhodes or Crete, but would like to teach for a few years first.
I have been told that now, due to the crisis, they are no taking on Foreign teachers, even well qualified and experienced ones.


Crete...beautiful island...enjoyed my holiday there.
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May 5, 2010 11:55 AM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
Ross30
Ross30Ross30Dublin, Ireland2 Threads 635 Posts
Three dead because some militant left wing extremists decided to set a bank on fire, its stime the Greek government called in the army, declared martial law, banned public sector strikes and protests. Any one who is rioting on the streets should be shot on sight, it would send on the strongest message that the Greek government will not tolerate any trade union militancy as well as communist and anarchist extremists.
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May 5, 2010 1:08 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
englishelegance
englisheleganceenglisheleganceBirmingham, West Midlands, England UK76 Threads 1 Polls 3,025 Posts
Martia: In Australia we were just about out of trouble.But the problems in Europe are reverberating all around the world.... shares plunge again.... any end to it. ? And why do shareholders panic so easily as they all come back up again.


We like you are just seeing the light at the end of the proverbial tunnel, so we can hardly help ourselves let alone Greece. Plus they have a tourist trade which we don't, they need to do cutbacks like the reast of us and pay more taxes!!peace
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May 5, 2010 1:59 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
lefkada
lefkadalefkadalefkada, Ionian Islands Greece7 Threads 49 Posts
hi Martia
must know and these is not a problem of Greece but is problem of all Europe.First was Iceland ,(UK make that trouble there) Ireland now the Greece and cames others EU countrys,
so lets talk with numbers.The Gross Domestic Product for the Greece is 13,6%( and this is the reason Greece cant take loans from the markets and you know all countrys do it that even the USA takes loans from China)
So you must know the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of UK, if no is 12,6%, i think is same like the Greek GDP.
Something else Greece in 2004 had the Olympic Games ,and in 2012 London will have the Olympic Games is that a coincidence for the future UK economy? times shows.
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May 5, 2010 2:28 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
lefkada
lefkadalefkadalefkada, Ionian Islands Greece7 Threads 49 Posts
SORRY MARTIA REPLY IT WAS FOR THE ENGLISHELEGANCE
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May 5, 2010 2:31 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
alfibarios
alfibariosalfibariosaegion, Peloponnese Greece4 Threads 289 Posts
OK I READ ALMOST ALL OF U.IAM LIVING THE PROBLEM IN MY COUNTRY A LOT BEFORE U HEAR OF THIS.THE CAUSES ARE SEVERAL AND I BLAME ALL.POLITICIANS,BANKERS AND CONSUMERS .I AM VERY PROUND TO ASK ANYBODY'S HELP FOR A PROBLEM WE FELL IN LIKE STUPIDS.2 DECADES NOW SUNDDENLY MONEY , CHEAP MONEY WERE OFFERED TO THE PEOPLE HERE FROM THE BANKS FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING AND VERY EASILY.U WANTED TO GO FOR HOLIDAYS? THEY GAVE U A LOAN.U WANTED TO BUY EXPENSIVE CHRISTMAS PRESENTS FOR UR FAMILY? NO PROBLEM .THE FRIENDLY BANKER HAD THE RIGHT LOAN FOR U.NICE CAR? THE SAME.BUILD A NEW SUPER DUPER HOUSE? BANK IS HERE DONT WORRY.I KNOW THAT IN MANY COUNTRIES THE THINGS R THE SAME BUT NOONE EDUCATE THE SIMPLE GREEK CONSUMER HOW TO HADDLE THOSE "FREE" MONEY.THEY-THE BANKS-GAVE CRADIT CARDS TO EVERYONE MOSTLY BY PHONE CALLS . NOONE EVER SAID WHERE THOSE MONEY CAME FROM AND HOW MUCH EXACTLY U GONNA PAY AT THE END-TODAY- FOR THESE .ON 2004 WE HAD THE OLYMPIC GAMES HERE AND IT WAS PROVED THAT THOSE COSTED 5 TIMES MORE THAN THE REALLY PRICES.U CAN IMAGINE WHO WAS BENEFITED FROM THIS.BIG AMERICAN AND EUROPEAN COMPANIES ,POLITICIANS AND PUMBLIC SERVANTS AT THE RIGHT PLACE THE RIGHT TIME.NOT ONLY IN GREECE.MAYBE MORE THAN THE HALF WE OUGHT IS OLYMPIC GAMES LOANS.U ALL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING SIMPLE.AFTER US COMES UR TURN ,CAUSE CAPITALISM HAS DOED A LONG TIME AGO AND NOONE WANTS TO EXEPT THIS.UNTIL THE WISDOM AND STUPID THE SAME TIME BIG HEADS OF THE WORLD ECONOMY FIND A NEW WAY TO RUN THINGS ,DAY AFTER DAY THE SAME HAPPENS ON MY COUNTRY IS GONNA HAPPEN TO PORTUGAL,SPAIN, UK ETC.REMAMBER MY WORDS .SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH BUT ITS NOT MY NATIVE LANGUAGE AND I HATE TRANSLATORS.
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May 5, 2010 2:43 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
englishelegance
englisheleganceenglisheleganceBirmingham, West Midlands, England UK76 Threads 1 Polls 3,025 Posts
alfibarios: OK I READ ALMOST ALL OF U.IAM LIVING THE PROBLEM IN MY COUNTRY A LOT BEFORE U HEAR OF THIS.THE CAUSES ARE SEVERAL AND I BLAME ALL.POLITICIANS,BANKERS AND CONSUMERS .I AM VERY PROUND TO ASK ANYBODY'S HELP FOR A PROBLEM WE FELL IN LIKE STUPIDS.2 DECADES NOW SUNDDENLY MONEY , CHEAP MONEY WERE OFFERED TO THE PEOPLE HERE FROM THE BANKS FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING AND VERY EASILY.U WANTED TO GO FOR HOLIDAYS? THEY GAVE U A LOAN.U WANTED TO BUY EXPENSIVE CHRISTMAS PRESENTS FOR UR FAMILY? NO PROBLEM .THE FRIENDLY BANKER HAD THE RIGHT LOAN FOR U.NICE CAR? THE SAME.BUILD A NEW SUPER DUPER HOUSE? BANK IS HERE DONT WORRY.I KNOW THAT IN MANY COUNTRIES THE THINGS R THE SAME BUT NOONE EDUCATE THE SIMPLE GREEK CONSUMER HOW TO HADDLE THOSE "FREE" MONEY.THEY-THE BANKS-GAVE CRADIT CARDS TO EVERYONE MOSTLY BY PHONE CALLS . NOONE EVER SAID WHERE THOSE MONEY CAME FROM AND HOW MUCH EXACTLY U GONNA PAY AT THE END-TODAY- FOR THESE .ON 2004 WE HAD THE OLYMPIC GAMES HERE AND IT WAS PROVED THAT THOSE COSTED 5 TIMES MORE THAN THE REALLY PRICES.U CAN IMAGINE WHO WAS BENEFITED FROM THIS.BIG AMERICAN AND EUROPEAN COMPANIES ,POLITICIANS AND PUMBLIC SERVANTS AT THE RIGHT PLACE THE RIGHT TIME.NOT ONLY IN GREECE.MAYBE MORE THAN THE HALF WE OUGHT IS OLYMPIC GAMES LOANS.U ALL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING SIMPLE.AFTER US COMES UR TURN ,CAUSE CAPITALISM HAS DOED A LONG TIME AGO AND NOONE WANTS TO EXEPT THIS.UNTIL THE WISDOM AND STUPID THE SAME TIME BIG HEADS OF THE WORLD ECONOMY FIND A NEW WAY TO RUN THINGS ,DAY AFTER DAY THE SAME HAPPENS ON MY COUNTRY IS GONNA HAPPEN TO PORTUGAL,SPAIN, UK ETC.REMAMBER MY WORDS .SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH BUT ITS NOT MY NATIVE LANGUAGE AND I HATE TRANSLATORS.



Well we have given you 1.6 Billion pounds, and i believe Germany have almost trebled that amount. The Uk is hardly out of a really bad recession and we have lost a lot of our manufacturing companies. Our people have not had a yearly rise fore the last 2 years and it will be a long time before this country is back on its feet. I think the biggest mistake for most european countries was to opt for the Euro.
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May 5, 2010 2:59 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
alfibarios
alfibariosalfibariosaegion, Peloponnese Greece4 Threads 289 Posts
DEAR IRISH FRIEND ICAN ASURE U THAT ITS MOST LIKELY THE GUYS WHO KILLED THOSE 3 POOR BANK WORKERS ARE PROVOCATORS WHO GOT PAID TO DO THAT.U ASK THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CREATED OUR PROBLEM-THE POLITICIANS- TO DECLER MARTIAL LAW AND SEND THE ARMY AGAINST POOR WORKERS AND OLD MEN AND WOMEN? ON WHAT BASE?
WE TAKE UR MONEY CAUSE WE SPENT THE LAST ONES WE GOT FROM U ON BIG HOUSES AND PRETTY VILLAS AND WE SHOOT U IF U DARE TO PROTEST? READ MY POST AT THE END OF THE PAGE AND DONT CONCLUDE SO EASILY OUR SITUATION HEREhandshake
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May 5, 2010 3:06 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
alfibarios
alfibariosalfibariosaegion, Peloponnese Greece4 Threads 289 Posts
WHEN I WAS YOUNG THE GOVERNORS TOLD US :BE WARE OF COMMUNISTS.IF THEY TAKE THE LEADERSHIP U GONNA LOSE UR HOUSE ,UR JOB AND ALL THE FREEDOMS WE OFFER U.AND NOW CAPITALISTS DO THAT.
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May 5, 2010 3:13 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
mazar45
mazar45mazar45Somewhere, North Aegean Greece55 Posts
englishelegance: Well we have given you 1.6 Billion pounds, and i believe Germany have almost trebled that amount. The Uk is hardly out of a really bad recession and we have lost a lot of our manufacturing companies. Our people have not had a yearly rise fore the last 2 years and it will be a long time before this country is back on its feet. I think the biggest mistake for most european countries was to opt for the Euro.


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May 5, 2010 4:14 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
LouiseDreaming
LouiseDreamingLouiseDreamingCosta Blanca and, Warwickshire, England UK2 Threads 493 Posts
AthenzGirl: If you know anything about EU law you will know that EU members are entitled to work in the same way as natives of that country.


Just want to point out that this isn't strictly accurate. When a new country joins, they sometimes have a time period before they allow this, and so do some existing members, in allowing the latest members to work there. The Uk used to impose no restrictions, but have put these in place in recent years. For example when Malta joined, I think there was a two year gap before any other EU national was allowed to work there.

I'm very sad for what has happened in Greece today, I love the country and it's people. But, like so many, they have got to get a grip on corruption and tax evasion.
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May 5, 2010 9:10 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
AthenzGirl: 1) you are rude
2) I worked for a canadian not a finn
3) unless you have actually interviewed people who are living there - how can you judge?
4) the day you register at Työvoimatoimisto you can come tell me your educated opinion about foreigner employment in Suomi.

Enjoy your mahalaukku!


Ah, the magic word, judging, perhaps take a look again and see what you posted. To claim a person to be rude without any foundation whatsoever, I find that very very immature behaviour, especially from a teacher.
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May 6, 2010 5:36 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
lefkada
lefkadalefkadalefkada, Ionian Islands Greece7 Threads 49 Posts
well, for the mister from somewhere in Agean sea(maybe from the bottom of the sea}or you are a communist or you like to see in your coins the picture of your queen or king to remember you tails from the past.
IF IS MISTAKE FOR THE EUROPIANS COUNTRIES TO OPT THE EURO ?
better ask the iceland people or the bulgarian people look the lithuanian the estonian these countrys is in EU but they dont have the euro.
for the ENGLISHELEGANCE, my dear your sterlina one week ago has been devalued by 25% in front of euro, you know what means that you personal lost 25%.
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May 6, 2010 9:09 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
Greece, being of theoretic, socialist behavior was bound to fail, just has all nations will, who base their growth, and support on theory. Every human will take the easiest route to prosperity, and when the government offers that route with support of the taxpayers money, they all will let others pay. This theoretic form of government is bound to fail, has the strained taxpayer falls into, and takes the easiest route. AND THE DEMS IN AMERICA ARE PLACING THEIR HOPES IN KILLING OFF THE ELDERLY, AND MAKING THE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS TAXPAYING CITIZENS.
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May 7, 2010 3:56 AM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
Guadalcanal
GuadalcanalGuadalcanalPuurs, Antwerpen Belgium7 Threads 6 Polls 38 Posts
Looks like the usual suspect Goldman Sachs is at it again. It helped the Greek government push forward to a distant future billions of euros in public spending, by selling derivative products to the scheming Greeks. That's how they have been meeting the Eurozone 3% budget limit over the past decade. GS of course earned the usual multi-million dollar fees head banger
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May 7, 2010 4:04 AM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
alfibarios
alfibariosalfibariosaegion, Peloponnese Greece4 Threads 289 Posts
Guadalcanal: Looks like the usual suspect Goldman Sachs is at it again. It helped the Greek government push forward to a distant future billions of euros in public spending, by selling derivative products to the scheming Greeks. That's how they have been meeting the Eurozone 3% budget limit over the past decade. GS of course earned the usual multi-million dollar fees

the same guys who creted the problem now they return dressed like others to solve it.capitalism my friend is like adog who is spinning around itself trying to bite his tale.and the banks offeru an umbrella on a sunny day and take it back the time of raining.frustrated
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May 7, 2010 4:06 AM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
I3estman4u
I3estman4uI3estman4uEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 568 Posts
K_rational: Not to flag wave, but Canada was the only major economy in the world (G20 countries) not to have a bank failure or major debt crisis.

It was also the only major economy in the world that stuck by the old banking rules from pre-2001, not playing fast and loose with cash and debt like everybody else.

No doubt there are people who will try to say those two facts are unrelated.

.


Dis is true.
But we were still hit.
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May 7, 2010 10:44 AM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
lefkada
lefkadalefkadalefkada, Ionian Islands Greece7 Threads 49 Posts
Steve5721: Where did you get this information from?

She hasn't lost 25%, she's in the UK and we don't use the Euro..so her £1 is still £1.

lol laugh where i get this informasion??? read or listen a litle BBC or better you see it in reality now whith the mesures who get the new election goverment.
the 1pound is stil 1 pound like a coin but you dont know the meaning of devalued,learn first and after write something
or better read a litle KEYNES.
laugh
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May 7, 2010 1:26 PM CST Greece up the creek without a Paddle.And we all fall in.
ziggysdad
ziggysdadziggysdadglen burnie, Maryland USA8 Threads 176 Posts
Ross30: Its called socialism which rewards laziness and punishes hard work.
And gets social reconstructionists elected lol.
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