AlbertaghostOPCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
I like to just post this so people are aware of what the government of Palestine stands for. It is actually quite simple, destruction of Israel, death to Jews and a few other odds and ends.
In response to: THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS
The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS
Covenant:
Goals of the HAMAS:
'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.' (Article 6)
On the Destruction of Israel:
'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)
The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:
'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'
(Article 11)
'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be.' (Article 13)
The Call to Jihad:
'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15)
'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.'
(Article 33)
Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:
' initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)
AlbertaghostOPCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
In response to: Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:
'Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle [against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle.
...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason, and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.' (Article 32)
Anti-Semitic Incitement:
'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)
'The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions - which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ... and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it.' (Article 22)
'Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'.' (Article 32)
'The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews.'
This is exactly what I wrote on another thread...Hamas 36 Articles,(might be more now),-and asked the question:-Is this really worth fighting for???It also claims that the constitution IS based on religious beliefs,-which automatically means a theocracy....But isn´t that something of the past,-with no relevance to a modern,rational,liberal,democratic world....Do people really wanna turn back time???And is it really possible,to apply these beliefs,ideas onto a modern,hightech society???So far,-no-one´s been answering me on this one,-instaed I got called this&that,-not that I give a horse a...s,-but I can´t figure out,why political correct people seem to "understand" this nonsense....I ofetn believed that all people strived for the same goal/wishes....to make a better living,and develop....but I´ve been wrong!!!Name ONE,(except Bosnia&Albania),-Islamic country that has a modern,liberal democracy like West!!!please prove me wrong.....And why the he..l do Westerners show acceptance for inhuman sharia-laws,-that has no place in West.......Whipping,torture,stoning,amputation,mutilation of women....There´s quite a few clips on YouTube showing child-weddings from Gaza,(and elsewhere in this developed world)....,And NO-ONE;NOTHING can convince me,that this barbaric crap has relevance or legitimacy....
Costapacketparis, Centre-Val de Loire France2,182 posts
Islam is 500 years behind the west.
We lived in what was called the dark ages, if you dared to say the earth was round or if you dared to say that fossils was anything other than the devils way of tricking us, you could be tortured and executed.
Nobody wanted to live under religious rule and the church is not a leading power into todays socieity, thank goodness!
We in the west do not want to go back to the dark ages.
We lived in what was called the dark ages, if you dared to say the earth was round or if you dared to say that fossils was anything other than the devils way of tricking us, you could be tortured and executed.
Nobody wanted to live under religious rule and the church is not a leading power into todays socieity, thank goodness!
We in the west do not want to go back to the dark ages.
We want our freedom and will fight to keep it.
You´re right....To quote Hamid Karzai:-"Afghanistan is 1.000 yrs behind west"....History "should" be linear,-meaning that everything´s supposed to happen once,-but unfortunately,it seems that it´s about to turn "cyclic"...West´s been thru theocracy,feodalism,imperialism,fascism,communism,-and now we reached democracy....til now....personally speaking(I point that out),-there´s no way that I´ll ever accept any form or acceptance for any long gone,irrelevant idea,that passed best-before date 1000 yrs ago....Problem is though,-West will eventually turn into something that it wasn´t supposed to be...And what speaks for that???Look around,-first is "acceptance,understanding,respect",fertility rates,EAD,ultra-liberalism,self-denial,self-criticism,-and the list is endless...."Cyclic",-yes.....,back to a theocratic rule within a few decades,-but this time,-not Christian....Even our beloved friend M.Khaddaffi stated:-"There´s signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe".....and he´s right....
magna1: You´re right....To quote Hamid Karzai:-"Afghanistan is 1.000 yrs behind west"....History "should" be linear,-meaning that everything´s supposed to happen once,-but unfortunately,it seems that it´s about to turn "cyclic"...West´s been thru theocracy,feodalism,imperialism,fascism,communism,-and now we reached democracy....til now....personally speaking(I point that out),-there´s no way that I´ll ever accept any form or acceptance for any long gone,irrelevant idea,that passed best-before date 1000 yrs ago....Problem is though,-West will eventually turn into something that it wasn´t supposed to be...And what speaks for that???Look around,-first is "acceptance,understanding,respect",fertility rates,EAD,ultra-liberalism,self-denial,self-criticism,-and the list is endless...."Cyclic",-yes.....,back to a theocratic rule within a few decades,-but this time,-not Christian....Even our beloved friend M.Khaddaffi stated:-"There´s signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe".....and he´s right....
You guys would have had some credibility had you posted this on a political site as opposed to a dating site.
Godsgift: You guys would have had some credibility had you posted this on a political site as opposed to a dating site.
Hrmmm,-I admit you´re right...but it´s always nice to exchange ideas with strangers......But yes....you´re right....,but still...with so many interesting people out there,it´s hard to stay away....
Costapacketparis, Centre-Val de Loire France2,182 posts
magna1: You´re right....To quote Hamid Karzai:-"Afghanistan is 1.000 yrs behind west"....History "should" be linear,-meaning that everything´s supposed to happen once,-but unfortunately,it seems that it´s about to turn "cyclic"...West´s been thru theocracy,feodalism,imperialism,fascism,communism,-and now we reached democracy....til now....personally speaking(I point that out),-there´s no way that I´ll ever accept any form or acceptance for any long gone,irrelevant idea,that passed best-before date 1000 yrs ago....Problem is though,-West will eventually turn into something that it wasn´t supposed to be...And what speaks for that???Look around,-first is "acceptance,understanding,respect",fertility rates,EAD,ultra-liberalism,self-denial,self-criticism,-and the list is endless...."Cyclic",-yes.....,back to a theocratic rule within a few decades,-but this time,-not Christian....Even our beloved friend M.Khaddaffi stated:-"There´s signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe".....and he´s right....
Yes the Islamic world has its eyes on Europe, so I hear they are trying to breed us out. Will they succede? I dont know! All I know is that I want for my children and me is a world thats free from religous interference. We have learnt this centuries ago but maybe The middle eastern people have to make the same mistakes as we did, who knows?
Albertaghost: I like to just post this so people are aware of what the government of Palestine stands for. It is actually quite simple, destruction of Israel, death to Jews and a few other odds and ends.
Hamas want an independent palestine not the murders of jew or destruction of Israel,that is only a story to make the reason to kill innocent palistines islam is a religion of peace and love and the struggle is the right of all of us to fight for our lives if the enemy is on our door. Usa attacked on Iraq and created the reason of weapon although they didnt have the weapons but the usa coloured its hands wth the blood of poor Iraqis.No finger to usa or Nato ,where are the peace lovers ?why they cant see the blood of innocent peoples.
Costapacketparis, Centre-Val de Loire France2,182 posts
legend03: Hamas want an independent palestine not the murders of jew or destruction of Israel,that is only a story to make the reason to kill innocent palistines islam is a religion of peace and love and the struggle is the right of all of us to fight for our lives if the enemy is on our door. Usa attacked on Iraq and created the reason of weapon although they didnt have the weapons but the usa coloured its hands wth the blood of poor Iraqis.No finger to usa or Nato ,where are the peace lovers ?why they cant see the blood of innocent peoples.
Costapacket: Yes the Islamic world has its eyes on Europe, so I hear they are trying to breed us out. Will they succede? I dont know! All I know is that I want for my children and me is a world thats free from religous interference. We have learnt this centuries ago but maybe The middle eastern people have to make the same mistakes as we did, who knows?
Any islamic country doesnt want to fight ,can u not see who is attcking on the islamic countries ?No any middle eastern country is fighting in any european contry but the europe and usa are fighting in the mid east ,i think u are still sleeping . Allah says to make the peace no fight on the earth ,no blood on the earth , and yes ,they are absloutly wrong that is the peoples of usa and many euo countries are under crises due to policies of thier govts and the big reason is war wth usa
AlbertaghostOPCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
legend03: Hamas want an independent palestine not the murders of jew or destruction of Israel,that is only a story to make the reason to kill innocent palistines
They might want to change the wording of their charter if that were the case.
"'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)"
legend03: islam is a religion of peace and love and the struggle is the right of all of us to fight for our lives if the enemy is on our door.
It certainly is however, rabid hate filled terrorists such as Hamas twist it to suit their violent purposes.
legend03: Usa attacked on Iraq and created the reason of weapon although they didnt have the weapons but the usa coloured its hands wth the blood of poor Iraqis.No finger to usa or Nato ,where are the peace lovers ?why they cant see the blood of innocent peoples.
If I recall there were numerous ceasefire conditions that Iraq was responsible to adhere to ranging from environmental reparations to human rights issue with destroying and then proving they had destroyed WMDs among those conditions. None of which were adhered to.
Where were the peace lovers when Saddam was the only person on earth who could stop this with a wave of his hand?
Costapacketparis, Centre-Val de Loire France2,182 posts
legend03: Any islamic country doesnt want to fight ,can u not see who is attcking on the islamic countries ?No any middle eastern country is fighting in any european contry but the europe and usa are fighting in the mid east ,i think u are still sleeping . Allah says to make the peace no fight on the earth ,no blood on the earth , and yes ,they are absloutly wrong that is the peoples of usa and many euo countries are under crises due to policies of thier govts and the big reason is war wth usa
Yes nobody is attacking directly western countries even though we are still subject to bombings. I grew up seeing bombings from the IRA I saw a assaination of 3 IRA in Gibrater, mortar attack on terminal 5 Heathrow, I was hoping we had left all this behind.
We in the west are strong at the moment and that protects us. Not all Muslims think the same as you write.
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The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS
Covenant:
Goals of the HAMAS:
'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.' (Article 6)
On the Destruction of Israel:
'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)
The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:
'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'
(Article 11)
'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be.' (Article 13)
The Call to Jihad:
'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15)
'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.'
(Article 33)
Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:
' initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a
waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)
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