Religion and spirituality (46)
Snowfox9Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland2 Threads 4 PostsI think the distinction between religion and spirituality is too often a spurious one. Understood properly, religion - the teachings of the Founders of the world's great religions - is the collective expression of the human spirit.
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Snowfox9: I think the distinction between religion and spirituality is too often a spurious one. Understood properly, religion - the teachings of the Founders of the world's great religions - is the collective expression of the human spirit.
How So?Why is there any need for a COLLECTIVE Expression?
Why not an Individual Expression?
Humanity doesn't have a Collective Brain,neither a Collective Mind!
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Conrad73: How So?
Why is there any need for a COLLECTIVE Expression?
Why not an Individual Expression?
Humanity doesn't have a Collective Brain,neither a Collective Mind!
Why is there any need for a COLLECTIVE Expression?
Why not an Individual Expression?
Humanity doesn't have a Collective Brain,neither a Collective Mind!
Good one...;-))))))
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Actually religion is more often likely to mean trying to control the human spirit. Religion is mans attempt to understand God or what ever name you give to the creator.
Spirituality is far more about trying to understand yourself from the inside rather then adearing to a particular belif system.
Mind you Spirituality has almost become religion all of its own these days with all kinds of junk attached to something very simple in essence.
Spirituality = the desire to express/be unconditional love on earth even if only for moments at a time.
Spirituality is far more about trying to understand yourself from the inside rather then adearing to a particular belif system.
Mind you Spirituality has almost become religion all of its own these days with all kinds of junk attached to something very simple in essence.
Spirituality = the desire to express/be unconditional love on earth even if only for moments at a time.
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Snowfox9: I think the distinction between religion and spirituality is too often a spurious one. Understood properly, religion - the teachings of the Founders of the world's great religions - is the collective expression of the human spirit.
Religion is of your bindings, what you are bound by, be it the human law, our religious law. Spirituality is not dependent on religion, but it is dependent on letting go of human bindings. 
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Conrad73: How So?
Why is there any need for a COLLECTIVE Expression?
Why not an Individual Expression?
Humanity doesn't have a Collective Brain,neither a Collective Mind!
Why is there any need for a COLLECTIVE Expression?
Why not an Individual Expression?
Humanity doesn't have a Collective Brain,neither a Collective Mind!
Why is there a need for a language?
Why not just make any sound you want, to make your desires known?
The ability to share our thoughts with words, gives us a Collective Brain, and a Collective Mind.
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Snowfox9: I think the distinction between religion and spirituality is too often a spurious one. Understood properly, religion - the teachings of the Founders of the world's great religions - is the collective expression of the human spirit.
Religion for the most part is just MOUTHING "the teachings of the Founders of the world's great religions."
Religion has become an industry.
There's 60 pages of people who claim to be of the Christian "religion" on here.
But not one, who can prove Christians exist; even at the most basic level.
Spirituality, is when you go beyond the traditions of men, to seek out the true spirit of all that is; to go beyond what is told to us, and know the reality of the spirit that flows through all, and in all.
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Conrad73: How So?
Why is there any need for a COLLECTIVE Expression?
Why not an Individual Expression?
Humanity doesn't have a Collective Brain,neither a Collective Mind!
Why is there any need for a COLLECTIVE Expression?
Why not an Individual Expression?
Humanity doesn't have a Collective Brain,neither a Collective Mind!
On the contrary, Humanity does in fact have a collective mind.
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In response to: I think the distinction between religion and spirituality is too often a spurious one. Understood properly, religion - the teachings of the Founders of the world's great religions - is the collective expression of the human spirit.
The original definition of the word religion has nothing to do with philosophy, teachings, dogma, and or any other grandiose belief turned into a cultic-like group. It literally meant "re-"= again "-ligion"=gathering of the masses, or group of people(s).
So, the gathering again of the masses (group of people) has nothing to do with Spirituality [the quality, fact or state of being spiritual]
...not even related
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Toekiss4u: The original definition of the word religion has nothing to do with philosophy, teachings, dogma, and or any other grandiose belief turned into a cultic-like group. It literally meant "re-"= again "-ligion"=gathering of the masses, or group of people(s).
So, the gathering again of the masses (group of people) has nothing to do with Spirituality [the quality, fact or state of being spiritual]
...not even related
So, the gathering again of the masses (group of people) has nothing to do with Spirituality [the quality, fact or state of being spiritual]
...not even related
Good point
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Only when we live in the spirit are we truly happy ('Abdul-Baha). I am a spiritual person who prays to God each day and who also happens to be religious (e.g. when I pray with others). I strive that my actions may be prayers.
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Conrad73: How So?
Why is there any need for a COLLECTIVE Expression?
Why not an Individual Expression?
Humanity doesn't have a Collective Brain,neither a Collective Mind!
Why is there any need for a COLLECTIVE Expression?
Why not an Individual Expression?
Humanity doesn't have a Collective Brain,neither a Collective Mind!
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anonymous1: Why is there a need for a language?
Why not just make any sound you want, to make your desires known?
The ability to share our thoughts with words, gives us a Collective Brain, and a Collective Mind.
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Why not just make any sound you want, to make your desires known?
The ability to share our thoughts with words, gives us a Collective Brain, and a Collective Mind.
.
You mean .... everybody should talk English?
What about all the other languages in the world? Do you share a Collective Brain with those who use different words?
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gabrielle95: You mean .... everybody should talk English?
What about all the other languages in the world? Do you share a Collective Brain with those who use different words?
What about all the other languages in the world? Do you share a Collective Brain with those who use different words?
lol
religion is hard to talk about. we got different points of view and several times it has been misunderstood. its just ones belief and practices and we just have to accept our indivualism regarding this.
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Snowfox9: Only when we live in the spirit are we truly happy ('Abdul-Baha). I am a spiritual person who prays to God each day and who also happens to be religious (e.g. when I pray with others). I strive that my actions may be prayers.
Sorry to disagree with you, snowy. I do not live in the spirit, I do not pray any god, but I am truly happy!
In free countries, we fortunately are allowed to have individual thinkings and choices what is not the case in countries run by any religion.
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gabrielle95: Well said, Conrad, nothing to add.
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simply_anne: lol
religion is hard to talk about. we got different points of view and several times it has been misunderstood. its just ones belief and practices and we just have to accept our indivualism regarding this.
religion is hard to talk about. we got different points of view and several times it has been misunderstood. its just ones belief and practices and we just have to accept our indivualism regarding this.
Yes acceptance is good but I also like to discuss different ideas. I enjoy it but I don't like anger or name calling, just discussion. It gets interesting when people share their beliefs at least to me.
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Toekiss4u: . It literally meant "re-"= again "-ligion"=gathering of the masses, or group of people(s).
Do what? There is NO such word as 'ligion' so how the bloody hell you get that to mean 'gathering of the masses, group of people' is beyond me!
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Steve5721: Do what? There is NO such word as 'ligion' so how the bloody hell you get that to mean 'gathering of the masses, group of people' is beyond me!
Origin:
1150–1200; ME religioun (< OF religion ) < L religion- (s. of religio ) conscientiousness, piety, equiv. to relig ( are ) to tie, fasten ( re- re- + ligare to bind, tie; cf. ligament) + -ion- -ion; cf. rely
To bind to an idea or belief. IMO
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femjkw: Origin:
1150–1200; ME religioun (< OF religion ) < L religion- (s. of religio ) conscientiousness, piety, equiv. to relig ( are ) to tie, fasten ( re- re- + ligare to bind, tie; cf. ligament) + -ion- -ion; cf. relyTo bind to an idea or belief. IMO
1150–1200; ME religioun (< OF religion ) < L religion- (s. of religio ) conscientiousness, piety, equiv. to relig ( are ) to tie, fasten ( re- re- + ligare to bind, tie; cf. ligament) + -ion- -ion; cf. relyTo bind to an idea or belief. IMO
Not once have you quoted the direct word of LIGION.
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