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Aug 8, 2010 5:13 AM CST did they have to kill them?
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,032 Posts
There are some news reports available eg

THE bones are bleached white now, as though they had lain here for centuries. But these human remains are only months old; the last proof of the existence of young men who had expected the protection of the Geneva conventions and, instead died horribly, either from suffocation or by summary execution.




"Did U.S. Forces Allow a Massacre of 3,000 Taliban Prisoners to Occur?" BuzzFlash asks Jamie Doran, Producer-Director of "Afghan Massacre: The Convoy of Death"


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Aug 8, 2010 5:23 AM CST did they have to kill them?
Nakedpackage
NakedpackageNakedpackageBradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England UK1 Threads 746 Posts
robplum: There are some news reports available eg

THE bones are bleached white now, as though they had lain here for centuries. But these human remains are only months old; the last proof of the existence of young men who had expected the protection of the Geneva conventions and, instead died horribly, either from suffocation or by summary execution.http://mondediplo.com/2002/09/02graves

"Did U.S. Forces Allow a Massacre of 3,000 Taliban Prisoners to Occur?" BuzzFlash asks Jamie Doran, Producer-Director of "Afghan Massacre: The Convoy of Death"http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/03/09/23_doran.html


Nasty inncidents have occurred no doubts about that.

You link says IF the Americans did this.
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Aug 8, 2010 5:26 AM CST did they have to kill them?
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,032 Posts








Obama pledges to investigate Afghan Massacre at Dasht-e-Leili
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Aug 8, 2010 5:59 AM CST did they have to kill them?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
I pity for them and my prayers for all those are killed in this war. Otherday I read a bit of news that a marriage party was murdered by nato bombing in Kandhahar .many small childern and women were killed . did they have to kill them too ?. There is no just in both the side of the war. while people try to magnify the cruality of Taliaban same time conveniently choose to ignore the Nato killing of innocents . Please read things through links and forward and publish links and scamm others to believe whatever in the links are true .we never know these guys were aid workers , preachers or simply spies in disguise .we simply know that they have been killed.and killing innocents are the major part of this war , by both the sides . so let the kettles stop calling pot black
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Aug 8, 2010 6:04 AM CST did they have to kill them?
Nakedpackage
NakedpackageNakedpackageBradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England UK1 Threads 746 Posts
bollywood: I pity for them and my prayers for all those are killed in this war. Otherday I read a bit of news that a marriage party was murdered by nato bombing in Kandhahar .many small childern and women were killed . did they have to kill them too ?. There is no just in both the side of the war. while people try to magnify the cruality of Taliaban same time conveniently choose to ignore the Nato killing of innocents . Please read things through links and forward and publish links and scamm others to believe whatever in the links are true .we never know these guys were aid workers , preachers or simply spies in disguise .we simply know that they have been killed.and killing innocents are the major part of this war , by both the sides . so let the kettles stop calling pot black


Then tell the Taliban to stop hiding behind the skirts of women and children.
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Aug 8, 2010 6:08 AM CST did they have to kill them?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
Friend,

This is mindless war and going nowhere. Like all other wars after sometime people will attach a lot of "glories" and "vicotories" to this war as well,,People will have hundered of links and articles to prove that the war was worth fighting. but that do not end the story . the fact remain that those who lost their lives and destroyed families could not come back . the human side of the story will be buried under the political mud. No war is won and will never be won.
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Aug 8, 2010 6:09 AM CST did they have to kill them?
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,032 Posts
Yeah look at what WikiLeaks has achieved, however moving the worlds population to reject violence and teach the young more positive outlooks, stop the Mullahs, the Pal Pots the advocates a communist form of government, religious communities promoting violence, the computer games etc How do you stop that
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Aug 8, 2010 6:10 AM CST did they have to kill them?
Nakedpackage
NakedpackageNakedpackageBradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England UK1 Threads 746 Posts
bollywood: Friend,

This is mindless war and going nowhere. Like all other wars after sometime people will attach a lot of "glories" and "vicotories" to this war as well,,People will have hundered of links and articles to prove that the war was worth fighting. but that do not end the story . the fact remain that those who lost their lives and destroyed families could not come back . the human side of the story will be buried under the political mud. No war is won and will never be won.


Thats a better post, not so one sided.......cheers
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Aug 8, 2010 6:11 AM CST did they have to kill them?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
Nakedpackage: Then tell the Taliban to stop hiding behind the skirts of women and children.


If you find a few terrorists in a London neibhourhood will you bomb the whole London ?
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Aug 8, 2010 6:18 AM CST did they have to kill them?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
Nakedpackage: Thats a better post, not so one sided.......


if you ever get to see the kind of people getting killed in this war then you understand why I side them . They are the poorest of the poor you can see in this world . Childern who did not see a candy in their life, women have no decent rag to cover their modesty, impoverished men ,starved for most of their life time, living among nato and the terrorists , thretned and killed by both of them. Its a very different world out there. Nobody is doing any good to them , both the taliban and the Nato are destroying their lives for meeting their objetives.
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Aug 8, 2010 6:19 AM CST did they have to kill them?
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,032 Posts
bollywood: If you find a few terrorists in a London neibhourhood will you bomb the whole London ?


or do you blow a train up in India and kill hundreds, its wide spread, not just Afghanistan, Kashmir, Iraq, Nepal, Burma, South America, Southern Thailand, Tibet, its everywhere bollywood
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Aug 8, 2010 6:20 AM CST did they have to kill them?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
grafter: these people were there to help in afghanistan ,what are your thoughts?
welcome to the real world happens alot sudan,etc.&freedom not free.
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Aug 8, 2010 6:20 AM CST did they have to kill them?
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
bollywood: If you find a few terrorists in a London neibhourhood will you bomb the whole London ?


Of course. What's the difference between a group of terrorists in the middle of the desert, armed to the teeth and a few terrorists discovered in London, right? doh
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Aug 8, 2010 6:23 AM CST did they have to kill them?
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
bollywood: if you ever get to see the kind of people getting killed in this war then you understand why I side them . They are the poorest of the poor you can see in this world . Childern who did not see a candy in their life, women have no decent rag to cover their modesty, impoverished men ,starved for most of their life time, living among nato and the terrorists , thretned and killed by both of them. Its a very different world out there. Nobody is doing any good to them , both the taliban and the Nato are destroying their lives for meeting their objetives.


I'll go along with this. I'm not sure what is expected to be gained by engaging the Taliban any more. We should just pull out and leave Afghanistan at their mercy since that's what everyone seems to want to happen.
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Aug 8, 2010 6:24 AM CST did they have to kill them?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
gardenhackle: Of course. What's the difference between a group of terrorists in the middle of the desert, armed to the teeth and a few terrorists discovered in London, right?


and do you think your goverment will go scot free as the US and Nato did in Afganistan ?. scold
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Aug 8, 2010 6:26 AM CST did they have to kill them?
Nakedpackage
NakedpackageNakedpackageBradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England UK1 Threads 746 Posts
bollywood: if you ever get to see the kind of people getting killed in this war then you understand why I side them . They are the poorest of the poor you can see in this world . Childern who did not see a candy in their life, women have no decent rag to cover their modesty, impoverished men ,starved for most of their life time, living among nato and the terrorists , thretned and killed by both of them. Its a very different world out there. Nobody is doing any good to them , both the taliban and the Nato are destroying their lives for meeting their objetives.


once again a good post......cheers
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Aug 8, 2010 6:26 AM CST did they have to kill them?
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
bollywood: and do you think your goverment will go scot free as the US and Nato did in Afganistan ?.


Subtleties seem to fly right over your head, don't they? doh
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Aug 8, 2010 6:27 AM CST did they have to kill them?
Nakedpackage
NakedpackageNakedpackageBradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England UK1 Threads 746 Posts
bollywood: If you find a few terrorists in a London neibhourhood will you bomb the whole London ?


A little unfair with this question as the situation is different.
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Aug 8, 2010 6:30 AM CST did they have to kill them?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
gardenhackle: I'll go along with this. I'm not sure what is expected to be gained by engaging the Taliban any more. We should just pull out and leave Afghanistan at their mercy since that's what everyone seems to want to happen.


The faster it happen the better it is . Nobody know how to end this war now.Its difficult to get out . hamid Karzai will be overthown and will be murderd for sure . Taliban will form a goverment for sure and Islamic laws will prevail.lets accept that. engage the new taiban goverment in a posative way .Afganistan has been a law less land since ages and will remain so. Actually there is no single Afganistan, its a loose collection many geographies controlled by warlords.This has been their system and people and communities flurished there ,so let it be , Its foolish to established the western value system everywhere in this world. Though the life of the people will be tough but lesser number of innocents will be killed for sure as one of the killer will be pulled out if Nato decide to pull out from here.
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Aug 8, 2010 6:34 AM CST did they have to kill them?
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,032 Posts
bollywood: and do you think your goverment will go scot free as the US and Nato did in Afganistan ?.


there are no winners in any war. You comment on Afghanistan, what the poor in India, the kids pulling ox carts in Calcutta, the number of States violence is occurring in India today. Yes lots of stupidity going on in Afghanistan, what about the attacks in Bomb Bay?
Nehru Gandhi promoting non violence walked across India and through the British out, and was soon after killed because someone wanted something other than Gandhi's plan for India.
The streets of many countries throughout the developed world suffer from violence to.

Its not just Afghanistan bollywood its widespread negative killing karmas going on right across the world
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