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Aug 7, 2010 10:20 PM CST did they have to kill them?
grafter
graftergrafteryelm, Washington USA6 Threads 1 Polls 49 Posts
these people were there to help in afghanistan ,what are your thoughts?
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Aug 7, 2010 10:21 PM CST did they have to kill them?
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
grafter: these people were there to help in afghanistan ,what are your thoughts?
who what where...uh oh
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Aug 7, 2010 10:21 PM CST did they have to kill them?
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
davpk10: who what where...
oh yea.... whenuh oh
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Aug 7, 2010 11:15 PM CST did they have to kill them?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
davpk10: who what where...


If OP tells you, he'll have to kill you... dunno

hmmm
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Aug 7, 2010 11:17 PM CST did they have to kill them?
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
grafter: these people were there to help in afghanistan ,what are your thoughts?


Very Sad, but people blazing though the back country in a foreign land known to have Al Queda killers wasn't the brightest idea .....dunno

It's really time for us to get the hell outta there entirely and let them have that forsaken crap hole doh
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Aug 7, 2010 11:19 PM CST did they have to kill them?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
do you guys really not know about what happened in afghanistan today??
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Aug 7, 2010 11:21 PM CST did they have to kill them?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
my thoughts are that its not a crap hole

and that that group was there serving periodically since 1964

and this is simply awful

Al Queda is NOT Afghanistan!
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Aug 7, 2010 11:22 PM CST did they have to kill them?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
mindfful: do you guys really not know about what happened in afghanistan today??


Does it matter if we do, or don't?

If you start a thread, stick around... dunno


Hi E.
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Aug 7, 2010 11:30 PM CST did they have to kill them?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
grafter: these people were there to help in afghanistan ,what are your thoughts?


Is it about this?

"August 7, 2010 2:44PM
Christian Aid Workers Killed in Afghanistan
Medical team falsely accused of "preaching Christianity."
David Neff
Americans this morning woke to news of 10 aid workers murdered in Afghanistan. They were six Americans, one German, one Briton, and two Afghan interpreters working for the International Aid Mission. The Taliban claimed the traveling medical team was “spying for the Americans” and “preaching Christianity.” The International Aid Mission is a Christian NGO that has operated in Afghanistan since 1966. They do not proselytize or discriminate on the basis of religion in delivering medical assistance."
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Aug 8, 2010 12:35 AM CST did they have to kill them?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Make senses to me....I blogged on in the Obama thread. Both why they did not have a military security detail and why the Taliban would kill them.

Taliban see this as a religous war....Moslen vs Christian. We don't.
But they do. It is a question of perspective.

Sad day for NGOs in Afghanistan.rose

10 ligths went out

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Aug 8, 2010 1:51 AM CST did they have to kill them?
wulfen
wulfenwulfenCospicua, Xlokk Malta3 Threads 1 Polls 810 Posts
lifeisadream: Is it about this?

"August 7, 2010 2:44PM
Christian Aid Workers Killed in Afghanistan
Medical team falsely accused of "preaching Christianity."
David Neff
Americans this morning woke to news of 10 aid workers murdered in Afghanistan. They were six Americans, one German, one Briton, and two Afghan interpreters working for the International Aid Mission. The Taliban claimed the traveling medical team was “spying for the Americans” and “preaching Christianity.” The International Aid Mission is a Christian NGO that has operated in Afghanistan since 1966. They do not proselytize or discriminate on the basis of religion in delivering medical assistance."


Well if you go around a country known for being the home of some of the most fanatical muslims around, unarmed with no military training, and waving your bible around, I guess you're pretty much asking for it. conversing
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Aug 8, 2010 1:51 AM CST did they have to kill them?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
chris27292729: " They are at war, a war in which they wish to take power again".- During their 10 years war with the Russians,it was the USA supplied them with arms to fighr the Russians.They were allies then, what did you expect starting a war with them???


How strange. The Taliban did not exist until the Afghan Civil War which was well after the Russians had left.

chris27292729:
to welcome you with open arms,as somebody said in another thread, nobody has won a war there since Genghis Khan.-And legitimate power, they will get,inflicting a total defeat to the invaders. The Midget defeating the Goliath.


If nobody has won a war then how on earth did the Taliban take power? And, would not defeating anybody constitute a victory considering that the Taliban themselves, while many are Afghans, many are not.
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Aug 8, 2010 2:33 AM CST did they have to kill them?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Have you any doubt???.that USA and their allies will be defeated??? If you leaving without achieving your objectives,capturing Landen,Taliban again in power,Karjay not accepted by his own people,do you regard this victory? I wonder what was called the military academy you gone to.-The Afgan people Taliban fighters or not,they have not yet,but they WILL for sure defeated the USA and their allies.-
Albertaghost: How strange. The Taliban did not exist until the Afghan Civil War which was well after the Russians had left.
If nobody has won a war then how on earth did the Taliban take power? And, would not defeating anybody constitute a victory considering that the Taliban themselves, while many are Afghans, many are not.
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Aug 8, 2010 2:49 AM CST did they have to kill them?
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
how on earth did the Taliban take power?

Taliban came from Pakistan, it wasn't an Afghan sect but was home grown in Pakistan and set its self up after the Russian were defeated.

Trying to win the hearts and minds of the people using Christian doctors in my mind is the same as sending gun slingers in, its as much a part the current stupid attempt to install external power over the region as dropping bombs.

You cannot change the Karmas of people born in that region like that. But then that sort of thinking is clearly to complicated for sheep to understand.
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Aug 8, 2010 2:52 AM CST did they have to kill them?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
chris27292729: Have you any doubt???.that USA and their allies will be defeated??? /quote]

We certainly don't know but should try. You wish to give up for some reason. What is that reason?


If you leaving without achieving your objectives,capturing Landen,Taliban again in power,Karjay not accepted by his own people,do you regard this victory?


Victory was achieved the moment the Taliban high tailed it out of Tora Bora. The rest is preventative maintenance so we don't have to go back again and, just doing a favor to the Aghan people.

Oh, and Bin Laden was never an official reason for the war rather the Taliban were to stop aiding and abetting terrorists, turn over their leadership and close the camps down. They didn't and, are no longer in power. The Afghan people voted for their representative leadership under threat of death so am sure they accept him.

chris27292729: I wonder what was called the military academy you gone to.


I wonder too as I don't recall ever saying I went to one but rather was a soldier. You know, front towards enemy, charge the hill, that sort of thing.

chris27292729:
-The Afgan people Taliban fighters or not,they have not yet,but they WILL for sure defeated the USA and their allies.-


I can tell from your not even knowing how the Taliban originated and when they came into being and, who and how they were supported that you really don't have a clue of what you are talking about so urge you to maybe do a wiki search or something so you come better armed next time.
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Aug 8, 2010 2:56 AM CST did they have to kill them?
afterbam
afterbamafterbamP.A., Pennsylvania USA18 Threads 2,006 Posts
what's going on now...???detective
the troops bring food and medicine to them???
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Aug 8, 2010 3:14 AM CST did they have to kill them?
scottyburd
scottyburdscottyburdglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK6,016 Posts
In response to: these people were there to help in afghanistan ,what are your thoughts?


Very sad news grafter, the folks were there to help and for their kindness they were murdered,i feel it for their families..bouquet
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Aug 8, 2010 3:18 AM CST did they have to kill them?
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
The war is not just been prosecuted by violence the grand plan is to win over the hearts and minds of the people, which was attempted in Vietnam.
The Afghan president (an Afghani) was imported back into Afghanistan from Portugal imported and propped by Bush.
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Aug 8, 2010 3:18 AM CST did they have to kill them?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Never mind what you call them, Taliban,war lords, tribes of Afganistan,etc, the reality is, those people are at war with, USA and their allies, because they don't want you there. And packing up and go,without convincing the Afganis,Why your present there, in my eyes this is a total defeat.
Albertaghost: Victory was achieved the moment the Taliban high tailed it out of Tora Bora. The rest is preventative maintenance so we don't have to go back again and, just doing a favor to the Aghan people.

Oh, and Bin Laden was never an official reason for the war rather the Taliban were to stop aiding and abetting terrorists, turn over their leadership and close the camps down. They didn't and, are no longer in power. The Afghan people voted for their representative leadership under threat of death so am sure they accept him.
I wonder too as I don't recall ever saying I went to one but rather was a soldier. You know, front towards enemy, charge the hill, that sort of thing.
I can tell from your not even knowing how the Taliban originated and when they came into being and, who and how they were supported that you really don't have a clue of what you are talking about so urge you to maybe do a wiki search or something so you come better armed next time.
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Aug 8, 2010 3:23 AM CST did they have to kill them?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
You are so right, thumbs up
robplum: how on earth did the Taliban take power?

Taliban came from Pakistan, it wasn't an Afghan sect but was home grown in Pakistan and set its self up after the Russian were defeated.

Trying to win the hearts and minds of the people using Christian doctors in my mind is the same as sending gun slingers in, its as much a part the current stupid attempt to install external power over the region as dropping bombs.

You cannot change the Karmas of people born in that region like that. But then that sort of thinking is clearly to complicated for sheep to understand.
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