of course id ask for reference and most of foreign people are good at their work their a 20% who are cowboys! well if i have to pay bills like every other person and i dont if my business wenyt belly up in the morning and have a mortgage to pay and i have to budget yea of course id go for the cheapest price wouldnt you?
aidymac: So you wouldnt ask for references and you wouldnt look to see previous work done by the client? You just take the cheapest?
exactly the point people in business just have to drop their price they cant expect to be the price they were a year ago!!i have had to drop the prices in my business
midlands5: deffinitly i have worked with polish and other nationalitys and because the were prepared to do the work locals wouldnt and hours aswell the got the jobs jmo in this recession everyones goina go for the cheapist so if ur pricing ur work to expensive what can you expect
areyoureadytogo: exactly the point people in business just have to drop their price they cant expect to be the price they were a year ago!!i have had to drop the prices in my business
its the same in all aspects if u take hotels if you see one priced at 59 euro and another at 129 euro same stars dont which one do you stay in???/we all feel this recession owners and workers and im sure if some people were offered the same jobs the turned down 2 years ago the would jump at them
midlands5: its the same in all aspects if u take hotels if you see one priced at 59 euro and another at 129 euro same stars dont which one do you stay in???/we all feel this recession owners and workers and im sure if some people were offered the same jobs the turned down 2 years ago the would jump at them
midlands5: its the same in all aspects if u take hotels if you see one priced at 59 euro and another at 129 euro same stars dont which one do you stay in???/we all feel this recession owners and workers and im sure if some people were offered the same jobs the turned down 2 years ago the would jump at them
How in Gods name is that the same as what were talking about??? The whole point of this thread is about a certain group of Polish plumbers that are going around doing half arsed jobs for half the money!!! Is that the same as getting a good deal in a hotel??? Their putting people out of business and also making people pay for repairs by IRISH plumbers they should have got in the first place!!! Jesus this is really annoying me!!!
mcattack: How in Gods name is that the same as what were talking about??? The whole point of this thread is about a certain group of Polish plumbers that are going around doing half arsed jobs for half the money!!! Is that the same as getting a good deal in a hotel??? Their putting people out of business and also making people pay for repairs by IRISH plumbers they should have got in the first place!!! Jesus this is really annoying me!!!
i said in general you said 4 times this week you were undercut by polish plumbers you didnt say by the same firm and if the mess up every job and you have a good reptutation then you will gain in repairs if there that bad its a miracle they got the jobs in the first place JMO
mcattack: How in Gods name is that the same as what were talking about??? The whole point of this thread is about a certain group of Polish plumbers that are going around doing half arsed jobs for half the money!!! Is that the same as getting a good deal in a hotel??? Their putting people out of business and also making people pay for repairs by IRISH plumbers they should have got in the first place!!! Jesus this is really annoying me!!!
Easy now. I'm afraid the taxi business is the same but I've lived long enough to know that nationalism tends to pop up when the money supply drops. It's true here, in the UK, Germany and everywhere else.
Better to direct our anger at the incompetent and overpaid individuals who have driven the ecconomy onto the rocks and who up till now, have not been held accountable by another bunch of cowboys who God willing will be voted out in the next election.
Godsgift: Easy now. I'm afraid the taxi business is the same but I've lived long enough to know that nationalism tends to pop up when the money supply drops. It's true here, in the UK, Germany and everywhere else.
Better to direct our anger at the incompetent and overpaid individuals who have driven the ecconomy onto the rocks and who up till now, have not been held accountable by another bunch of cowboys who God willing will be voted out in the next election.
thats what was trying to say its the same in every aspect of business
mcattack..not going to row or fight with you i know your vexed that your nothing getting any business ... i know how you feel and im self employed and have competition also but you have to look at it from both sides from a business point of view and people point of view have you ever sat down and taught to yourself ok maybe i need to drop my price to get work and maybe you have!maybe you have to drop them more...maybe you do the work charge for the work and your labour and let them get the supplies just an idea!! i had my plumber last week with me i buy the supplies he does his work! my main pump went last week cost me over €100 to get it repaired he put in a bypass for me and rigged it up for me again
midlands5: i said in general you said 4 times this week you were undercut by polish plumbers you didnt say by the same firm and if the mess up every job and you have a good reptutation then you will gain in repairs if there that bad its a miracle they got the jobs in the first place JMO
Read the thread and youl see that i did and also made the point of not talking about ALL Polish!!! Its just one crowd and their getting paid cash too which most people are happy to do!!! My point in the last reply is they are making people pay double because they have to get me or some other mug to come back to fix it (theres nothing worse than fixing some other persons work and trying to give a price to someone thats just been rode) My advice is to not go for the cheapest all the time......Its not a hotel deal and there is a lot more to lose from it!! For example....YOUR MONEY!!!
mcattack: Read the thread and youl see that i did and also made the point of not talking about ALL Polish!!! Its just one crowd and their getting paid cash too which most people are happy to do!!! My point in the last reply is they are making people pay double because they have to get me or some other mug to come back to fix it (theres nothing worse than fixing some other persons work and trying to give a price to someone thats just been rode) My advice is to not go for the cheapest all the time......Its not a hotel deal and there is a lot more to lose from it!! For example....YOUR MONEY!!!
im not getting involved in a argument with you ur thread is called endercut i just used hotels as a example i didnt say it was just hotels but every aspect of business in todays climate
midlands5: im not getting involved in a argument with you ur thread is called endercut i just used hotels as a example i didnt say it was just hotels but every aspect of business in todays climate
Look it was a stupid example but i dont want to fight with you either
midlands5: im not getting involved in a argument with you ur thread is called endercut i just used hotels as a example i didnt say it was just hotels but every aspect of business in todays climate
Maccas point is that cutting prices on like products is competitive but cutting prices by reducing workmanship is a false economy. He was naturally upset at the idea that his scenario and the one you brought up were not comparable...
skyblue43: Maccas point is that cutting prices on like products is competitive but cutting prices by reducing workmanship is a false economy. He was naturally upset at the idea that his scenario and the one you brought up were not comparable...
i understand that but was just trying to use something that everyone can compare with but every business either company or self employed is affected
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Is there a reason why threads on these forums degrade to a flame war? Cant the point be made without resolving to degrading and offensive posts?
I employ people, lots of them. I dont care if you're Irish, British, Indian, Polish or whatever. You will be employed for 30 days, your work vetted, then for 90 days if all is OK. You will be fired just as quick if you are not up to scratch, no iff's or butts about it. Shabby work has no excuse..... period. Our company charges premium for their work, we're known for doing so..... we're also known for the quality of work and the materials we use...... Our order book is full for months. If you cant compete in the real world then get out of the fire, no point whinging about benefits and government's...... all governments are the same..... they are ALL useless. It's called life, get on with it.
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well if i have to pay bills like every other person and i dont if my business wenyt belly up in the morning and have a mortgage to pay and i have to budget yea of course id go for the cheapest price wouldnt you?