How legal is the Legacy of Israel? ( Locked) (301)

Nov 24, 2010 2:36 PM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
You did asked a speculative question, and you got my answer that the Palestinians, would have voted for a Palestinian state solution. AND I ASK YOU THIS. If the British having the Mandate,called the people of Palestine in 1922 to vote if they wanted a Palestine state,what do you think,would have voted???
ttom500: They were a unvoted Majority, Chris....they did not have a nation state to have a voting process. That is and has been the problem for them. It is simple..... without a vote....it is speculation to the vote out come.

Maybe a strong local Palestine would have spoken eloquently for a two state solution....

You are speculating of events that did not occur.

I go to a horse race. I place $100 on the horse with the highest odds...the horse least likely to win. A 1000 to 1 shot. Then....a rain storm comes in and the race is canceled.....I get my $100 back and I can say....I should have got a $100,000....my horse was a sure thing to win.
Yet I still don't have the $100,000

Respectfully until the Palestine get a nation state to vote in, it is the same.
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Nov 24, 2010 2:59 PM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
If my Auntie were an Ottoman,but they lost!rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 24, 2010 3:15 PM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
hey guys,i read many posts but couldnt read all of them

first i must say i am an iranian and though everybody thinks we hate jews i must clarify that we dont and in fact there are many jews living in iran and have their synagogues over here.i have lived in india for since childhood and since lot of israelis travel to india i have met quite few

now back to the question put forth.when so many people are trying to defend the existence of israeli land and its legal standing it itself speaks quite loudly about its legality of the whole thing

but i ask the pro isreali people here that lets forget the whole history of how jews went to palestine and why.whatever the reason does it give them right to kill innocent children?does it give them right to starve people to death?does it give them right to run over children with their cars?

i am not saying all the jews are psychos but how many have condemned these acts?how many have stood up for the rights of human beings being slaughtered over there.

everyone knows whats happening out there and here we sit and post comments that what torah has said or what the queen has said or what resolution has the UN passed on israel

simple truth is "many jews are murdering people in palestine and the rest are watching"
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Nov 24, 2010 3:19 PM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
masoodtaheriy: hey guys,i read many posts but couldnt read all of them

first i must say i am an iranian and though everybody thinks we hate jews i must clarify that we dont and in fact there are many jews living in iran and have their synagogues over here.i have lived in india for since childhood and since lot of israelis travel to india i have met quite few

now back to the question put forth.when so many people are trying to defend the existence of israeli land and its legal standing it itself speaks quite loudly about its legality of the whole thing

but i ask the pro isreali people here that lets forget the whole history of how jews went to palestine and why.whatever the reason does it give them right to kill innocent children?does it give them right to starve people to death?does it give them right to run over children with their cars?

i am not saying all the jews are psychos but how many have condemned these acts?how many have stood up for the rights of human beings being slaughtered over there.

everyone knows whats happening out there and here we sit and post comments that what torah has said or what the queen has said or what resolution has the UN passed on israel

simple truth is "many jews are murdering people in palestine and the rest are watching"


Hi, yes Iran is kind to Jews and the Jews of Iran live mainly in peace there.

What right does the palestinians have to kill Israeli children. Why do Hammas send rockets to land in Israeli schools, hospitals, homes EVERY SINGLE DAY. What gives Israeli arabs the right to stone vehicles, blinding one driver the day before yesterday.

And the palestinians are NOT STARVING TO DEATH. The aid for them reaches them, unless the corrupt hammas decided to intercept it.

You need to base up your post with facts please from legitimate sources.
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Nov 24, 2010 5:04 PM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
see as i said i have lived in india for many years and the news i quote are not from iranian press but international press

if aid is getting to palestinians then why the shipment from turkey was intercepted and few men killed?isnt that a fact?many people on that ship were europeans and americans and non muslims so you cant say that its a muslim propaganda.

i agree with you that many israelis are killed by hammas and other groups but can you tell me why these groups were formed?

were not they formed because they want justice and when they couldnt get it the proper way they had to pick up a fight?though i dont agree with them or agree with anyone getting killed but when you see that you dont get justice then it comes out in wrong ways

you cant deny the fact that many palestinians have been expelled from their own country and now they live in camps based in lebanon ,syria and jordan

i think you should update your facts.israeli gvt unfortunately is breaking every right made for humans from the time man came to earth and many dont want to accept this fact

iranians dont like arabs and that a fact which has been there for centuries but it doesnt give me the right to pick up a gun and go to states where arabs live in iran and through them out

my dear friend the first step towards peace is to accept the mistake
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Nov 24, 2010 8:06 PM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
mikygr
mikygrmikygrNextToYou, South Aegean Greece8 Threads 2 Polls 575 Posts
masoodtaheriy: see as i said i have lived in india for many years and the news i quote are not from iranian press but international press

if aid is getting to palestinians then why the shipment from turkey was intercepted and few men killed?isnt that a fact?many people on that ship were europeans and americans and non muslims so you cant say that its a muslim propaganda.

i agree with you that many israelis are killed by hammas and other groups but can you tell me why these groups were formed?

were not they formed because they want justice and when they couldnt get it the proper way they had to pick up a fight?though i dont agree with them or agree with anyone getting killed but when you see that you dont get justice then it comes out in wrong ways

you cant deny the fact that many palestinians have been expelled from their own country and now they live in camps based in lebanon ,syria and jordan

i think you should update your facts.israeli gvt unfortunately is breaking every right made for humans from the time man came to earth and many dont want to accept this fact

iranians dont like arabs and that a fact which has been there for centuries but it doesnt give me the right to pick up a gun and go to states where arabs live in iran and through them out

my dear friend the first step towards peace is to accept the mistake


That's a bit a problem for some ones here. They rather run to call you anti-Semite, Skinhead, fascist etc. I cannot remember one time of self-criticism; it seems that they are flawless by birth... dunno
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Nov 25, 2010 12:25 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
mikygr
mikygrmikygrNextToYou, South Aegean Greece8 Threads 2 Polls 575 Posts
ttom500: They were a unvoted Majority, Chris....they did not have a nation state to have a voting process. That is and has been the problem for them. It is simple..... without a vote....it is speculation to the vote out come.

Maybe a strong local Palestine would have spoken eloquently for a two state solution....

You are speculating of events that did not occur.

I go to a horse race. I place $100 on the horse with the highest odds...the horse least likely to win. A 1000 to 1 shot. Then....a rain storm comes in and the race is canceled.....I get my $100 back and I can say....I should have got a $100,000....my horse was a sure thing to win.
Yet I still don't have the $100,000

Respectfully until the Palestine get a nation state to vote in, it is the same.


Beside your horses now...grin

Palestine was a Mandatory, yes, but the League of Nations could have given theme the right to vote in that matter. Easy game if they wanted, comparing with the other, heavy and tricky resolution they took... But I agree that this all is history now, nothing to change about. Nevertheless I put this quote in here because I believe that this had a big influence in all after -rather tragic- happenings in the region, and still has. And questioning things a bit deeper is helpful for a better understanding of what really is going on.

As for me, just only studying the composition of the voting members in the League and UN later, the questioning of most UN-members themselves about the background-legacy, the immense pressure putted on some members in the second run, the comments of high officials about this vote etc., I consider the whole procedure as a big farce and nothing else. Again I agree that so it is now, but I doubt that there can be ever a real functioning 2-State solution anymore. Beside Gaza and the West bank, the Golan Heights and East Jerusalem have become a self understating status quo for most Israelis today- nothing to discuss about anymore. And the younger Israeli-Generation wouldn’t even understand such a question - nothing to blame about, how could they ever.

Year per year, for decades now, it ripples of Delegations, “freedom-speeches”, “agreements” and “resolutions” but the creation of a Jewish State including greater Palestine is just a question of time anymore- with a steadily and more and more ignorant procedure. And the justification of it in here is constantly “self-defense from the bad boys”, nixed up with a little bit of Torah and the holy land. Let’s at least give this immense hypocrisy an end.

And in the today but also new “Jewland”, or however it’s going to be called, only Jewish may be permanent citizens, right? Very funny actually, even only comparing this policy with the text of the Balfour-Declaration… And where are all “the bad boys” from former Palestine-Protectorate living today- and are going to live tomorrow? Not of importance, right?

Doesn't you one sided, fanatic Israel supporter ask yourself -one time only- if there were also severe failures in its policy towards the Arabs? Or is that totally excluded? And are you not a bit worried about the public opinion today, concerning the image of Israel? Not of importance? Relaying on military power only? Might be dangerous, because I also believe that Israel has not such a big geo-strategic role to play anymore, as it had before.

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Nov 25, 2010 12:26 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
mikygr
mikygrmikygrNextToYou, South Aegean Greece8 Threads 2 Polls 575 Posts
Finally -as I intend to quit this quote- I also want to point out that Israel’s policy relays to much on lies and efforts to hush up facts and blind public opinion. Yesterday, accidentally I stumbled on a long TV-interview with Israel’s President. Among other things, he was repeatedly asked about Israel’s Nuclear weapons – yes or no. He wouldn’t give a clear answer ever. Instead, he repeated himself how peace-loving Israel is, never attacked any one and never would do so etc. Following asked about the former prime minister who, after retiring, clearly declared that that Israel possesses Nuclear weapons (he is not the first one, BTW), he wouldn’t know about, but continuing praising the peace-loving Israel. Just a small example.

I also put this question to Albertaghost some time in another matter, his worldly answer was: “Prove it” grin … Closing, there is a difficult Enigma I’d like to put, hoping for your all help to solve: It has 4 legs and a tail, is sitting on a roof and makes miau miau miau. What is it?
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Nov 25, 2010 12:28 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
mikygr
mikygrmikygrNextToYou, South Aegean Greece8 Threads 2 Polls 575 Posts
u2Kitty: Sorry to burst the "peace bubble" guys.

Anyone can make a wrong decision
(only the catholic church is not admitting it?)

BUT even the Israelis admit it now:

They should have chosen Uganda instead of Palestine



LAMA LO UGANDA

grin VIVA UGANDA! let's go to Kibutz there as well! grin
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Nov 25, 2010 1:43 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Right you can have the first role and i can have the second.
Conrad73: Have you ever applied at Comedy Central?
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Nov 25, 2010 1:43 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
mikygr: VIVA UGANDA! let's go to Kibutz there as well!
Let's go to one in Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur,and compare notes with our other Conspiracy-Theorist!
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Nov 25, 2010 1:44 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
chris27292729: Right you can have the first role and i can have the second.
Sideshow-Chris!yay
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Nov 25, 2010 1:47 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
mikygr: Finally -as I intend to quit this quote- I also want to point out that Israel’s policy relays to much on lies and efforts to hush up facts and blind public opinion. Yesterday, accidentally I stumbled on a long TV-interview with Israel’s President. Among other things, he was repeatedly asked about Israel’s Nuclear weapons – yes or no. He wouldn’t give a clear answer ever. Instead, he repeated himself how peace-loving Israel is, never attacked any one and never would do so etc. Following asked about the former prime minister who, after retiring, clearly declared that that Israel possesses Nuclear weapons (he is not the first one, BTW), he wouldn’t know about, but continuing praising the peace-loving Israel. Just a small example.

I also put this question to Albertaghost some time in another matter, his worldly answer was: “Prove it” … Closing, there is a difficult Enigma I’d like to put, hoping for your all help to solve: It has 4 legs and a tail, is sitting on a roof and makes miau miau miau. What is it?
You are not a very good Historian,or you might have some Gedächtnis-Lücken,Mikky!
You decide!
But you are as Antisemite as they come!
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Nov 25, 2010 1:54 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
But Ray does not getting any salary, for his Theories, though you are.Just between you and me,how much they pay you per month,and is really worth the money they pay you, been a propogandist????.- How much more you want per month to change sides???.-rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing tongue tongue tongue
Conrad73: another one gone!
Keep on proscribing to Ray's Conspiracy Theories!
Makes you look even more ridiculous!
What happenn to the skeletons???? Found anything of note YET???rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 25, 2010 1:58 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
chris27292729: But Ray does not getting any salary, for his Theories, though you are.Just between you and me,how much they pay you per month,and is really worth the money they pay you, been a propogandist????.- How much more you want per month to change sides???.- What happenn to the skeletons???? Found anything of note YET???


And you still haven't negotiated your pay rate for being the village idiot of CS. If you need some help composing a letter let us know.

After you provide the proof of your idiot contentions of course where you accuse others without proof, quotes or links.
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Nov 25, 2010 1:59 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Conrad73: Sideshow-Chris!


rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 25, 2010 2:02 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Conrad the collaborator,asking absolution for his previous generation crimes against humanity.-
Conrad73: Chris The Clown!
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 25, 2010 2:04 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
chris27292729: But Ray does not getting any salary, for his Theories, though you are.Just between you and me,how much they pay you per month,and is really worth the money they pay you, been a propogandist????.- How much more you want per month to change sides???.- What happenn to the skeletons???? Found anything of note YET???
If I look at those Greek-Skeletons,I glad I ain't you all!
And you have Nerve to paint others with your Brush!laugh
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Nov 25, 2010 2:05 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Are you a paid agent as well????rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Albertaghost: And you still haven't negotiated your pay rate for being the village idiot of CS. If you need some help composing a letter let us know.

After you provide the proof of your idiot contentions of course where you accuse others without proof, quotes or links.
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Nov 25, 2010 2:05 AM CST How legal is the Legacy of Israel?
chris27292729: Conrad the collaborator,asking absolution for his previous generation crimes against humanity.-
Damn,Look at that Selfesteem of that Fellow!bowing bowing bowing
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