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Nov 23, 2010 6:33 PM CST Al Gore Tells it like it is!!!!
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
For once in his life!

grin


Al Gore Says Supporting Corn Ethanol Was a Mistake

Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore has said he made a mistake promoting first generation corn ethanol during his presidential campaign in 2000.

Gore says he was more concerned with garnering votes from farmers in Tennessee and Iowa than with what was best for the environment. A clean energy enthusiast, Gore says corn ethanol is not a sustainable alternative to fossil fuels. The process of converting corn into ethanol is highly energy intensive and also requires using a food crop for fuel.

The food-versus-fuel debate is nothing new. However, it really exploded when the United States experiences record food prices. The biofuel industry was blamed for this. This year 41% of the United States' corn crop, representing 15% of all corn produced on the planet will be converted into ethanol.

Corn ethanol received US$7.7 billion in subsidies from the U.S. government last year. These subsidies are up for renewal soon, and the debate has already become heated. Growth Energy, an organization representing ethanol producers in the United States, responded to Gore's comments with this statement: "The contributions of first generation ethanol to our nation's economy, environment and energy production are not a mistake, but a success story."

Gore contends corn ethanol is negatively impacting food prices and that there are better biofuel solutions to be developed and supported: "I think second and third generation that don't compete with food prices will play an increasing role, certainly with aviation fuels."



It takes a big man to admit his mistakes. Maybe next he'll face up to his huge carbon footprint.

Naaaaaaaw! Not Al!

rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 23, 2010 6:35 PM CST Al Gore Tells it like it is!!!!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
1st time the sweathog has ever told the truth! yay
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Nov 23, 2010 6:37 PM CST Al Gore Tells it like it is!!!!
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
katt1017: For once in his life!

Al Gore Says Supporting Corn Ethanol Was a Mistake

Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore has said he made a mistake promoting first generation corn ethanol during his presidential campaign in 2000.

Gore says he was more concerned with garnering votes from farmers in Tennessee and Iowa than with what was best for the environment. A clean energy enthusiast, Gore says corn ethanol is not a sustainable alternative to fossil fuels. The process of converting corn into ethanol is highly energy intensive and also requires using a food crop for fuel.

The food-versus-fuel debate is nothing new. However, it really exploded when the United States experiences record food prices. The biofuel industry was blamed for this. This year 41% of the United States' corn crop, representing 15% of all corn produced on the planet will be converted into ethanol.

Corn ethanol received US$7.7 billion in subsidies from the U.S. government last year. These subsidies are up for renewal soon, and the debate has already become heated. Growth Energy, an organization representing ethanol producers in the United States, responded to Gore's comments with this statement: "The contributions of first generation ethanol to our nation's economy, environment and energy production are not a mistake, but a success story."

Gore contends corn ethanol is negatively impacting food prices and that there are better biofuel solutions to be developed and supported: "I think second and third generation that don't compete with food prices will play an increasing role, certainly with aviation fuels."It takes a big man to admit his mistakes. Maybe next he'll face up to his huge carbon footprint.



Naaaaaaaw! Not Al!


Shame on me I forgot to add the link:

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Nov 23, 2010 6:52 PM CST Al Gore Tells it like it is!!!!
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Not need to be a Nobel Prize to know that, in a hungry world using a food crop to get energy is a BIG MISTAKE!
when we do have other energy sources besides the one from oil.
uh oh
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Nov 23, 2010 8:04 PM CST Al Gore Tells it like it is!!!!
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
lifeisadream: Not need to be a Nobel Prize to know that, in a hungry world using a food crop to get energy is a BIG MISTAKE!
when we do have other energy sources besides the one from oil.


I think it is interesting that he now admits he supported corn use just to get votes. Kind of makes you wonder how much else he's compromised himself to get what he wants.
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Nov 23, 2010 8:08 PM CST Al Gore Tells it like it is!!!!
jovisst
jovisstjovisstLjusdal, Gavleborg Sweden84 Threads 22 Polls 709 Posts
You should know that all politicians fish for votes, no exeption.

In my opinion ethanol is a big waste of resources as fuel.

Thank god for a big old gas guzzler, I'm tired of snow and ice and welcoms warmer climate for my country.
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Nov 23, 2010 8:10 PM CST Al Gore Tells it like it is!!!!
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
katt1017: I think it is interesting that he now admits he supported corn use just to get votes. Kind of makes you wonder how much else he's compromised himself to get what he wants.


like global warming

uh oh
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Nov 23, 2010 8:38 PM CST Al Gore Tells it like it is!!!!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
lifeisadream: like global warming


I think it's the biggest hoax played on the world...(particularly America though) help
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Nov 23, 2010 8:56 PM CST Al Gore Tells it like it is!!!!
jovisst: You should know that all politicians fish for votes, no exeption.

In my opinion ethanol is a big waste of resources as fuel.

Thank god for a big old gas guzzler, I'm tired of snow and ice and welcoms warmer climate for my country.
Why don't you move to a warmer area instead of praising wasteful technology like inefficient overweight land barges?
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Nov 23, 2010 9:29 PM CST Al Gore Tells it like it is!!!!
OK, this is a subject I happen to know a lot about.
For starters Gore is right that corn ethanol is not a great alternative to fossil fuels for the reasons stated however, the reason corn prices went through the roof a few years ago was because the EPA forced big oil to replace MTBE which was added to gasoline to boost octane rating but is a carcinogenic and can contaminate water wells.



This was replaced with ethanol made from corn. 2nd gen ethanol, known as cellulosic ethanol (made from weeds basically) was not perfected yet and is in fact still undergoing developement. The switch from MTBE to ethanol was extremely disruptive to the supply of gasoline which, along with the decision by GWB to continue filling the SPR (Strategic Petroleum Reserve) even though he was strongly advised to pause because it was already at 97% full caused gas prices to skyrocket to more than $4.00 a gallon. Hey, he's an oil man as was most of his administration so high gas prices were a windfall to them.
It may interest you to know that the 10% ethanol blend with gasoline has just been increased to 15% in the US.

Ethanol from corn and in fact other food grains is still the only game in town for the time being. There are 2nd generation ethanol producers all across the US waiting for loan guarantees from the DOE which are not being acted upon and have been on hold for over a year. Many of these companies are going down the tubes waiting for word from the DOE.
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