Sinn Fein to do well in the next election (247)

Terribly misguided to discourage people with kids from working when been on welfare for people with kids is better than actually working in this country.

How do you define poor anyway?

Its much easier to understand these days....They're all gangsters

poor?

its not having enough money for the basics e.g. not being able to afford to run the heating long enough in this weather.

This always amazes me.


1. Working Class

2. Middle Class

Does that mean that the middle class are not working.

While all the time the mega rich sip champagne on their yacht's basking in the sun not working at all but laughing their arses at the squabble between the two working classes.

What about a family with kids who have never worked living in council/corporation housing who have satelite TV and have more disposable income than a family who are struggling to pay their mortgages each month and both parents are working.

When I feed the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor are hungry, they call me a communist. — Dom Helder Camara

Well let's avoid the narrow mindedness for a while and go back to the topic of the thread. Will SF do well in the next election? Well first thing is first, let's put last week's poll to one side. The idea that SF could get 16% is fanciful- as fanciful as the concept of FF ending up with a mere 13%. Most likely I see Sf getting about 10% and FF getting somewhere in the low to mid 20s.

10% would be a good return for SF and would see them significantly increasing their seats. The thing with SF, is that the current bounce to them is to a large extent, a delayed reaction. In around 2006, most commentators, would have given SF up to 10 seats at the next election, but circumstances changed.

Around that time, SF haemorrhaged members at an alarming rate, with the emergence of éirígí, a lot of people left. Some joined éirígí, others went nowhere, but SF in Dublin and in other parts of the country, where they had been strong, were decimated. 13% of people in Dublin voted for SF in 2004 in the local and european elections, whereas they got 4% in 2007 and lost a seat. They have weathered that storm now and Seán Crowe should probably win back his seat. It is also unlikely that they will lose anymore in Dublin and may win 1 or 2 more. They will keep all their current seats (including the one they just won in Donegal), will probably pick up one in Donegal North East and could make a breakthrough in other areas. They could win up to 10 seats, which would essentially be a delayed reaction from 2007, when they should have done well.

In terms of how SF would do in government? Well that won't be answerable in the south. At best, the combined total seats between Labour, SF and the ULA as they call themselves, will be only in the 50s. Not close to a position where they could govern, even if Labour would go for such a government, which they won't.

However, we can judge them on the North and their behaviour in government there belies the assumption of SF being a party of the radical left. They have no problem helping the far-right DUP to privatise public services in the North and it was only a few months ago, that they were trying to restrict the right of people to protest through the Public Assemblies Bill. SF are not a political party, they are a coalition. One which has many good people, but many more who may as well be in FF. An SF candidate in Cork or Dublin for example, may be very left wing, but in other parts of the country they may not be. Consequentially, some people may vote for an SF candidate because in their particular area they me be the most progressive candidate, but that does not mean they support SF in general.

have you ever been in the position to come from a less well off background and tried to get yourself into a good job? ive pointed out before what happend to me.

people have this image of those not working living in huge houses full of all that expensive stuff i dont no about those near you but in our house it wasnt like that.

maybe people shouldnt be putting themselves under those big mortgages and they wouldnt be in such a mess. easy. rent like others do.