Statelet of N. Ireland (89)

Feb 1, 2011 3:07 AM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
homegnome
homegnomehomegnomeBangkok, Central Thailand Thailand24 Threads 1 Polls 161 Posts
I was born there and grew up there. Can I just ask that if there was a referendum given to Nationalists in the north, how many would vote to join the Republic?
I'm just asking because I used to be a Civil Servant in Belfast and think that a lot of Nationalists who have done well would be reluctant to vote 'Yes'.
This is not only a question for people from N.I.
All opinions are appreciated.
Feb 1, 2011 5:25 AM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
Taureanmale
TaureanmaleTaureanmaleRoscommon, Ireland86 Threads 5 Polls 1,672 Posts
Jeezs who in their right mind would want to vote yes to joining us given the position that we re in!
Feb 1, 2011 7:19 AM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
In response to: I was born there and grew up there. Can I just ask that if there was a referendum given to Nationalists in the north, how many would vote to join the Republic?
I'm just asking because I used to be a Civil Servant in Belfast and think that a lot of Nationalists who have done well would be reluctant to vote 'Yes'.
This is not only a question for people from N.I.
All opinions are appreciated.
I would imagine the entire sinn fein vote would vote yes, as for the sdlp it's hard to know i would imagine there would be a section of that vote that would be happy to remain part of the uk
Feb 1, 2011 7:58 AM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
stanley8m
stanley8mstanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland156 Threads 7 Polls 5,341 Posts
homegnome: I was born there and grew up there. Can I just ask that if there was a referendum given to Nationalists in the north, how many would vote to join the Republic?
I'm just asking because I used to be a Civil Servant in Belfast and think that a lot of Nationalists who have done well would be reluctant to vote 'Yes'.
This is not only a question for people from N.I.
All opinions are appreciated.


I would say the majority of nationalists would vote to join the republic.
Could safely say if the same question was put to the unionists they would say NOlaugh
Feb 1, 2011 10:47 AM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
Who in their right mind would want to be ruled by Dublin, if they had any choice in the matter?
Feb 1, 2011 10:58 AM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
snowlynx: Who in their right mind would want to be ruled by Dublin, if they had any choice in the matter?


They would be voting for increased health and medical costs which they currently get for free including doctor's visits and cheap prescriptions. They would be voting to pay for school books which they currently get for free. They would be voting for 25%higher car prices as there's no VRT in the UK, higher car insurance costs and in some cases, the quadrupling of road tax!

They'd be voting for restrictions of over the counter medications. And they'd be voting to contribute to our social charge and insurance levvy! And they would be voting for negative equity in their homes and lending rates set by the Bundesbank!

YUP: Makes great sense!dunno
Feb 1, 2011 1:07 PM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
blipper2000: and go where
we are one of the few countries in the world that has rule of law and probably the best civil rights anywhere and defo the best social welfare system anywhere

id defo vote no to a united ireland
why
Feb 1, 2011 1:10 PM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
jimbo79: why

well the unionists wouldnt be happy and would probably start bombing dublin for a start
and its an outdated idea
we live a united states of europe now
Feb 1, 2011 1:14 PM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
blipper2000: well the unionists wouldnt be happy and would probably start bombing dublin for a start
and its an outdated idea
we live a united states of europe now


we would have to appease the unionists no doubt but i see it hapenning in the long term

as for united states of europe i would not be surprised if that experiment failed and within the next 5 years
Feb 1, 2011 1:14 PM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
QueenofKings
QueenofKingsQueenofKingsCelbridge, Kildare Ireland8 Threads 171 Posts
blipper2000: and go where
we are one of the few countries in the world that has rule of law and probably the best civil rights anywhere and defo the best social welfare system anywhere

id defo vote no to a united ireland


We should vote yes to a United Ireland as part of Great Britainlaugh wink laugh
Feb 1, 2011 1:21 PM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
jimbo79: we would have to appease the unionists no doubt but i see it hapenning in the long term

as for united states of europe i would not be surprised if that experiment failed and within the next 5 years

ill bet my leg nugget that it will last forever

yer havin a laugh
appease the unionists
its like askin a rabid dog not to bite yalaugh
Feb 2, 2011 3:27 PM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
forestshaks
forestshaksforestshaksgalway/dublin, Galway Ireland435 Posts
Taureanmale: Jeezs who in their right mind would want to vote yes to joining us given the position that we re in!


Don't even flatter urself, the north brought fame to the south..Nobody knew the south even existed...Besides the economy up north is 10times better than urs so pls don't let me start.
Ur ignorance is now manifesting itself....
Feb 2, 2011 3:37 PM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
1FieryRedHead
1FieryRedHead1FieryRedHeadWestmeath, Ireland37 Threads 1 Polls 949 Posts
forestshaks: Don't even flatter urself, the north brought fame to the south..Nobody knew the south even existed...Besides the economy up north is 10times better than urs so pls don't let me start.
Ur ignorance is now manifesting itself....


I'm thinking you've gotten the wrong end of the stick there?? confused
My take on his comment was, that given the state of this country atm...who in their right mind would have anything to do with us.
Could be wrong mind you?
dunno
Feb 8, 2011 3:45 AM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
homegnome
homegnomehomegnomeBangkok, Central Thailand Thailand24 Threads 1 Polls 161 Posts
I'd like to think that there will be a United Ireland sometime in the future but it certainly won't happen in my lifetime.
Education in schools in the North has to be revised and that will take more than a few generations to produce any positive results.
But here's hoping.
Feb 8, 2011 4:10 AM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
hoopy1973
hoopy1973hoopy1973carlow, Carlow Ireland2 Threads 46 Posts
Godsgift: They would be voting for increased health and medical costs which they currently get for free including doctor's visits and cheap prescriptions. They would be voting to pay for school books which they currently get for free. They would be voting for 25%higher car prices as there's no VRT in the UK, higher car insurance costs and in some cases, the quadrupling of road tax!

They'd be voting for restrictions of over the counter medications. And they'd be voting to contribute to our social charge and insurance levvy! And they would be voting for negative equity in their homes and lending rates set by the Bundesbank!

YUP: Makes great sense!

Seems to me your pissed off with this country by all your posts.
If its annoying that you much why don't you go back to your fellow SCOTSireland
Feb 8, 2011 4:56 AM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
abitunlucky
abitunluckyabitunluckyKerry, Ireland6 Threads 241 Posts
In response to: I was born there and grew up there. Can I just ask that if there was a referendum given to Nationalists in the north, how many would vote to join the Republic?
I'm just asking because I used to be a Civil Servant in Belfast and think that a lot of Nationalists who have done well would be reluctant to vote 'Yes'.
This is not only a question for people from N.I.
All opinions are appreciated.



If I was voting I would vote no. We cannot afford it. The North's economy is too heavily reliant on the public sector. This side of the border cannot afford our own, don't mind adding in a lot more from the North.

The only way for the North and South to unite is for them to converge their economies, laws and culture over a long period of time. To do this properly Northern Ireland would have to split economically from the UK.

If we wish to look at unification problems, look at East and West Germany. Their economy is still paying for it.

And then there is Belgium and Italy. Countries that are split internally because of history where one tradition still doesn't get on with another.
Feb 8, 2011 5:06 AM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
Who in their right mind would support a united Ireland given the fact that the Republic is bankrupt and will be bankrupt for years to come, do people expect another financial loan from the EU/IMF for something that is completely unaffordable?
Feb 8, 2011 12:19 PM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
howlingwolf
howlingwolfhowlingwolfWest Cork, Cork Ireland30 Threads 1,218 Posts
homegnome: I was born there and grew up there. Can I just ask that if there was a referendum given to Nationalists in the north, how many would vote to join the Republic?
I'm just asking because I used to be a Civil Servant in Belfast and think that a lot of Nationalists who have done well would be reluctant to vote 'Yes'.
This is not only a question for people from N.I.
All opinions are appreciated.


In fact a vote of that sort has already taken place. It was called The Good Friday Agreement. The vast majority of northern 'nationalists' voted to become part of the United Kingdom and to relinquish the claim by the Irish Republic over what they previously said were the 'occupied' six counties. The people in the 26 counties also voted by a large majority for the partition of the island with the north becoming an undisputed part of the United Kingdom.
Feb 8, 2011 12:37 PM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
Taureanmale
TaureanmaleTaureanmaleRoscommon, Ireland86 Threads 5 Polls 1,672 Posts
1FieryRedHead: I'm thinking you've gotten the wrong end of the stick there??
My take on his comment was, that given the state of this country atm...who in their right mind would have anything to do with us.
Could be wrong mind you?

Thank you A. You read it perfectly
Feb 8, 2011 2:59 PM CST Statelet of N. Ireland
hoopy1973
hoopy1973hoopy1973carlow, Carlow Ireland2 Threads 46 Posts
I've been here for a quarter of my life. I pay my taxes here and you would deny me the same right of free speech that you would claim your forefathers fought for.

Some of us have too work and cant sit around all day on a computer hence the reason for not replying earlier.
I don't try deny you any freedom of speech (not that I'd listen anyway) I don't claim anything its fact and logged in history no thanks to certain suppressors
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