Modern Family Portrait:Mom,Child&Plastic Dad.... (126)
Great thread... the subject is something I've wondered about for some time... how the children in these various situations feel when they get older
I feel for them..
I feel for them..
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SCatlyn: Great thread... the subject is something I've wondered about for some time... how the children in these various situations feel when they get older
I feel for them..
Hello,yes,and the book is great.Sometimes quite shocking...I feel for them..
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I guess my views on this are the same as my views on gay couples raising a child.
As long as that child is loved then there is nothing to say what " a statistical" family should be.
It does rile me somewhat that in this day and age people still feel that the perfect family should consist of a mother and father.
It simply is not the case....
A child with a well balanced life and love of any gender parent should not fear rebuffs because of the circumstances they where raised or created under.
As long as that child is loved then there is nothing to say what " a statistical" family should be.
It does rile me somewhat that in this day and age people still feel that the perfect family should consist of a mother and father.
It simply is not the case....
A child with a well balanced life and love of any gender parent should not fear rebuffs because of the circumstances they where raised or created under.
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Amity: I guess my views on this are the same as my views on gay couples raising a child.
As long as that child is loved then there is nothing to say what " a statistical" family should be.
It does rile me somewhat that in this day and age people still feel that the perfect family should consist of a mother and father.
It simply is not the case....A child with a well balanced life and love of any gender parent should not fear rebuffs because of the circumstances they where raised or created under.
But if the children suffer?What then?As long as that child is loved then there is nothing to say what " a statistical" family should be.
It does rile me somewhat that in this day and age people still feel that the perfect family should consist of a mother and father.
It simply is not the case....A child with a well balanced life and love of any gender parent should not fear rebuffs because of the circumstances they where raised or created under.
I know what you mean,but disagree...
So far,the world has moved forward thank´s to "traditional" family relations,why experiment with it?
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AtwoZ: Family portraits/photos brings back memories,good or bad,-but they´re a reminder of who we are,and where we come from...
Family´s smiling into the cam,Mom,child(ren),-but where´s Dad?
After all,-you can´t have a test tube posing as Dad,even though he is one....
Insemination,-many reasons for it,and it surely has helped many people to fulfill their dreams of becoming parents...
But when that becomes an industry,and when young,fertile women chooses to inseminate,because they´re eager to become Mom´s,wwith or without a partner,-is that a reason to question the logic and morals behind this?
A controversial topic,and probably there´s no definite answer,-but a newly released book in Sweden,:"The most beautiful gift",-raises this question...
And it has started a heated debate..
But the book points to studies,where test tube children are suffering from this,when they find out the reason for Dad´s abscence.
Inmany cases,children gets shocked and suffers psychological from this.Even suicide attempts have been the result,when the truth came out..
Many Mom´s don´t tell the truth,and when some kids eventually found out,-the shock was even greater....
And when it came to tell the truth,even wrong Men where pointed out as Dad´s...
This phenomena" is even promoted by politicians,as,-Lena Hallongren spoke in the Swedish Parl.6/4,where she said:"It´s not acceptable that women longing for a child should be discriminated by it´s marital status"
discriminated?For being single?But is insemination the right way to go,even though people are capable of getting a child?Isn´t adoption a better solution?
Are children becoming a "luxury item",-something that can be bought and sold?
A few clicks away,-the person can choose whoever she finds most suitable to become "father",-and who has the best genes...
But everything can be sen from 2 sides,-so who´s right or wrong,is probably hard to tell...But if surveys show that many children actually suffers psychological,isn´t it about time to question this industry?
Family´s smiling into the cam,Mom,child(ren),-but where´s Dad?
After all,-you can´t have a test tube posing as Dad,even though he is one....
Insemination,-many reasons for it,and it surely has helped many people to fulfill their dreams of becoming parents...
But when that becomes an industry,and when young,fertile women chooses to inseminate,because they´re eager to become Mom´s,wwith or without a partner,-is that a reason to question the logic and morals behind this?
A controversial topic,and probably there´s no definite answer,-but a newly released book in Sweden,:"The most beautiful gift",-raises this question...
And it has started a heated debate..
But the book points to studies,where test tube children are suffering from this,when they find out the reason for Dad´s abscence.
Inmany cases,children gets shocked and suffers psychological from this.Even suicide attempts have been the result,when the truth came out..
Many Mom´s don´t tell the truth,and when some kids eventually found out,-the shock was even greater....
And when it came to tell the truth,even wrong Men where pointed out as Dad´s...
This phenomena" is even promoted by politicians,as,-Lena Hallongren spoke in the Swedish Parl.6/4,where she said:"It´s not acceptable that women longing for a child should be discriminated by it´s marital status"
discriminated?For being single?But is insemination the right way to go,even though people are capable of getting a child?Isn´t adoption a better solution?
Are children becoming a "luxury item",-something that can be bought and sold?
A few clicks away,-the person can choose whoever she finds most suitable to become "father",-and who has the best genes...
But everything can be sen from 2 sides,-so who´s right or wrong,is probably hard to tell...But if surveys show that many children actually suffers psychological,isn´t it about time to question this industry?
Having kids has become a matter of convenience - this issue is just an aspect of this underlying ethic.
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TrueBlue1986: Having kids has become a matter of convenience - this issue is just an aspect of this underlying ethic.
Hello TrueBlue,welcome in....or getting children out of boredom...Or not really knowing the reason to get a child,-just getting it for the sake of it..
At least here!
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Amity: I guess my views on this are the same as my views on gay couples raising a child.
As long as that child is loved then there is nothing to say what " a statistical" family should be.
It does rile me somewhat that in this day and age people still feel that the perfect family should consist of a mother and father.
It simply is not the case....A child with a well balanced life and love of any gender parent should not fear rebuffs because of the circumstances they where raised or created under.
As long as that child is loved then there is nothing to say what " a statistical" family should be.
It does rile me somewhat that in this day and age people still feel that the perfect family should consist of a mother and father.
It simply is not the case....A child with a well balanced life and love of any gender parent should not fear rebuffs because of the circumstances they where raised or created under.
I'm absolutely your opinion Amity 
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AtwoZ: But if the children suffer?What then?
I know what you mean,but disagree...
So far,the world has moved forward thank´s to "traditional" family relations,why experiment with it?
I know what you mean,but disagree...
So far,the world has moved forward thank´s to "traditional" family relations,why experiment with it?
Suffer as in? what? bullying? or maybe financially?
I do understand your point believe me.
What i think bothers me slightly is that the millions of children awaiting adoption need loving homes.
But again...singledom is not acceptable, or if it is a major uphill battle. No wonder women chose this option of insemination
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AtwoZ: Hello TrueBlue,welcome in....
or getting children out of boredom...Or not really knowing the reason to get a child,-just getting it for the sake of it..
At least here!
or getting children out of boredom...Or not really knowing the reason to get a child,-just getting it for the sake of it..
At least here!
That's in part what I mean by convenience, which is whatever is best for the parent and not the child. This is because the parent exists here and now and so it is the individual's right to do what pleases themselves most easily.
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Ummm...my favorite family portrait is of me and my two girls, Theres no man in site. That hasnt affected anyone begatively at all. Your living in the past. Mom, Dad, three kids and a station wagon is an outdated ideal. Family units are comprised of people who love each other...thank heavens there is no "norm" anymore.
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Yes, any industry that has an ethical element should be questioned regularly and this is fairly high up the list, I would say.
BUT...
The biggest questions should be asked on a societal level. Many, many kids these days have parental abandonement issues, whether that's because their mother, or their father is absent.
Most often its the father that's absent and a significant number of women are choosing to raise a child on their own, like myself. The question is, why is that?
I think with the advent of feminism and the move away from a patriarchal structure, women are taking the lead. Inevitably there will be a period of disharmony until men and women learn to work together again.
Women have the power to have children with a marginal input from men. Why should they not use this power? Why should they go childless because its taking men longer to make the changes necessary?
At least part of this argument is about the idea that under a patriarchal structure, men had most of the power, but now women can exclude men if they choose.
To my mind, the obvious solution is for men not to put themselves in a position where women wish to exclude them. Work to understand and come to terms with equality. Its not going away.
Its bloody hard raising a child on your own. I think some of us are waiting for some of you to make yourselves useful.
BUT...
The biggest questions should be asked on a societal level. Many, many kids these days have parental abandonement issues, whether that's because their mother, or their father is absent.
Most often its the father that's absent and a significant number of women are choosing to raise a child on their own, like myself. The question is, why is that?
I think with the advent of feminism and the move away from a patriarchal structure, women are taking the lead. Inevitably there will be a period of disharmony until men and women learn to work together again.
Women have the power to have children with a marginal input from men. Why should they not use this power? Why should they go childless because its taking men longer to make the changes necessary?
At least part of this argument is about the idea that under a patriarchal structure, men had most of the power, but now women can exclude men if they choose.
To my mind, the obvious solution is for men not to put themselves in a position where women wish to exclude them. Work to understand and come to terms with equality. Its not going away.
Its bloody hard raising a child on your own. I think some of us are waiting for some of you to make yourselves useful.
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Amity: Suffer as in? what? bullying? or maybe financially?
I do understand your point believe me.
What i think bothers me slightly is that the millions of children awaiting adoption need loving homes.
But again...singledom is not acceptable, or if it is a major uphill battle. No wonder women chose this option of insemination
That´s what I asked!I do understand your point believe me.
What i think bothers me slightly is that the millions of children awaiting adoption need loving homes.
But again...singledom is not acceptable, or if it is a major uphill battle. No wonder women chose this option of insemination
But again,-if children in a later stage actually gets psycic ill,-shouldn´t it be questioned?
Single,yes,-so what?Not acceptable?
What do you mean?
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TrueBlue1986: That's in part what I mean by convenience, which is whatever is best for the parent and not the child. This is because the parent exists here and now and so it is the individual's right to do what pleases themselves most easily.
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jac379: Yes, any industry that has an ethical element should be questioned regularly and this is fairly high up the list, I would say.
BUT...
The biggest questions should be asked on a societal level. Many, many kids these days have parental abandonement issues, whether that's because their mother, or their father is absent.
Most often its the father that's absent and a significant number of women are choosing to raise a child on their own, like myself. The question is, why is that?
I think with the advent of feminism and the move away from a patriarchal structure, women are taking the lead. Inevitably there will be a period of disharmony until men and women learn to work together again.
Women have the power to have children with a marginal input from men. Why should they not use this power? Why should they go childless because its taking men longer to make the changes necessary?
At least part of this argument is about the idea that under a patriarchal structure, men had most of the power, but now women can exclude men if they choose.
To my mind, the obvious solution is for men not to put themselves in a position where women wish to exclude them. Work to understand and come to terms with equality. Its not going away.
Its bloody hard raising a child on your own. I think some of us are waiting for some of you to make yourselves useful.
Jac,a good post..However,-a "real" dad´s at least a "real" dad,no matter what.I was raised by mom myself,and hardly saw dad,but at least I knew who he was,-and that counts...BUT...
The biggest questions should be asked on a societal level. Many, many kids these days have parental abandonement issues, whether that's because their mother, or their father is absent.
Most often its the father that's absent and a significant number of women are choosing to raise a child on their own, like myself. The question is, why is that?
I think with the advent of feminism and the move away from a patriarchal structure, women are taking the lead. Inevitably there will be a period of disharmony until men and women learn to work together again.
Women have the power to have children with a marginal input from men. Why should they not use this power? Why should they go childless because its taking men longer to make the changes necessary?
At least part of this argument is about the idea that under a patriarchal structure, men had most of the power, but now women can exclude men if they choose.
To my mind, the obvious solution is for men not to put themselves in a position where women wish to exclude them. Work to understand and come to terms with equality. Its not going away.
Its bloody hard raising a child on your own. I think some of us are waiting for some of you to make yourselves useful.
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venusenvy: Ummm...my favorite family portrait is of me and my two girls, Theres no man in site. That hasnt affected anyone begatively at all. Your living in the past. Mom, Dad, three kids and a station wagon is an outdated ideal. Family units are comprised of people who love each other...thank heavens there is no "norm" anymore.
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AtwoZ: Family portraits/photos brings back memories,good or bad,-but they´re a reminder of who we are,and where we come from...
Family´s smiling into the cam,Mom,child(ren),-but where´s Dad?
After all,-you can´t have a test tube posing as Dad,even though he is one....
Insemination,-many reasons for it,and it surely has helped many people to fulfill their dreams of becoming parents...
But when that becomes an industry,and when young,fertile women chooses to inseminate,because they´re eager to become Mom´s,wwith or without a partner,-is that a reason to question the logic and morals behind this?
A controversial topic,and probably there´s no definite answer,-but a newly released book in Sweden,:"The most beautiful gift",-raises this question...
And it has started a heated debate..
But the book points to studies,where test tube children are suffering from this,when they find out the reason for Dad´s abscence.
Inmany cases,children gets shocked and suffers psychological from this.Even suicide attempts have been the result,when the truth came out..
Many Mom´s don´t tell the truth,and when some kids eventually found out,-the shock was even greater....
And when it came to tell the truth,even wrong Men where pointed out as Dad´s...
This phenomena" is even promoted by politicians,as,-Lena Hallongren spoke in the Swedish Parl.6/4,where she said:"It´s not acceptable that women longing for a child should be discriminated by it´s marital status"
discriminated?For being single?But is insemination the right way to go,even though people are capable of getting a child?Isn´t adoption a better solution?
Are children becoming a "luxury item",-something that can be bought and sold?A few clicks away,-the person can choose whoever she finds most suitable to become "father",-and who has the best genes...
But everything can be sen from 2 sides,-so who´s right or wrong,is probably hard to tell...But if surveys show that many children actually suffers psychological,isn´t it about time to question this industry?
Family´s smiling into the cam,Mom,child(ren),-but where´s Dad?
After all,-you can´t have a test tube posing as Dad,even though he is one....
Insemination,-many reasons for it,and it surely has helped many people to fulfill their dreams of becoming parents...
But when that becomes an industry,and when young,fertile women chooses to inseminate,because they´re eager to become Mom´s,wwith or without a partner,-is that a reason to question the logic and morals behind this?
A controversial topic,and probably there´s no definite answer,-but a newly released book in Sweden,:"The most beautiful gift",-raises this question...
And it has started a heated debate..
But the book points to studies,where test tube children are suffering from this,when they find out the reason for Dad´s abscence.
Inmany cases,children gets shocked and suffers psychological from this.Even suicide attempts have been the result,when the truth came out..
Many Mom´s don´t tell the truth,and when some kids eventually found out,-the shock was even greater....
And when it came to tell the truth,even wrong Men where pointed out as Dad´s...
This phenomena" is even promoted by politicians,as,-Lena Hallongren spoke in the Swedish Parl.6/4,where she said:"It´s not acceptable that women longing for a child should be discriminated by it´s marital status"
discriminated?For being single?But is insemination the right way to go,even though people are capable of getting a child?Isn´t adoption a better solution?
Are children becoming a "luxury item",-something that can be bought and sold?A few clicks away,-the person can choose whoever she finds most suitable to become "father",-and who has the best genes...
But everything can be sen from 2 sides,-so who´s right or wrong,is probably hard to tell...But if surveys show that many children actually suffers psychological,isn´t it about time to question this industry?
Hi....If you look at the way Hollywood chooses to have children it does seem to be a marketplace. Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt were the first to have children from different cultures. Then other celebs got on the bandwagon and started adopting from countries other than the U.S. It appeared to me to be a form of status depending on how many children you had.
I think invitro is good when for women who have problems getting pregnant. I'm not fond of women who have children by surrogate because they don't want to get fat. I am highly in favor of adoption but, it seems people are going out of the U.S. to adopt children. The reason I hear is that it doesn't take as long to adopt a child from another country as it does in the U.S.
I don't think Angelina's children are going to suffer psychological trauma because it appears they are well loved and taken care of.
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AtwoZ: Jac,a good post..However,-a "real" dad´s at least a "real" dad,no matter what.I was raised by mom myself,and hardly saw dad,but at least I knew who he was,-and that counts...
To be honest...i would think it would be harder to learn you have a dad that doesn't care about you!!!
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venusenvy: Ummm...my favorite family portrait is of me and my two girls, Theres no man in site. That hasnt affected anyone begatively at all. Your living in the past. Mom, Dad, three kids and a station wagon is an outdated ideal. Family units are comprised of people who love each other...thank heavens there is no "norm" anymore.
How much worse does the economy, the environment and social conditions in general need to get before this prevailing, yet rootless and isolated attitude is discarded?
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Snuggs09: Hi....If you look at the way Hollywood chooses to have children it does seem to be a marketplace. Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt were the first to have children from different cultures. Then other celebs got on the bandwagon and started adopting from countries other than the U.S. It appeared to me to be a form of status depending on how many children you had.
I think invitro is good when for women who have problems getting pregnant. I'm not fond of women who have children by surrogate because they don't want to get fat. I am highly in favor of adoption but, it seems people are going out of the U.S. to adopt children. The reason I hear is that it doesn't take as long to adopt a child from another country as it does in the U.S.
I don't think Angelina's children are going to suffer psychological trauma because it appears they are well loved and taken care of.
Maybe not,but wealth does matter..And they´re ADOPTED,that´s a difference...I think invitro is good when for women who have problems getting pregnant. I'm not fond of women who have children by surrogate because they don't want to get fat. I am highly in favor of adoption but, it seems people are going out of the U.S. to adopt children. The reason I hear is that it doesn't take as long to adopt a child from another country as it does in the U.S.
I don't think Angelina's children are going to suffer psychological trauma because it appears they are well loved and taken care of.
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Family´s smiling into the cam,Mom,child(ren),-but where´s Dad?
After all,-you can´t have a test tube posing as Dad,even though he is one....
Insemination,-many reasons for it,and it surely has helped many people to fulfill their dreams of becoming parents...
But when that becomes an industry,and when young,fertile women chooses to inseminate,because they´re eager to become Mom´s,wwith or without a partner,-is that a reason to question the logic and morals behind this?
A controversial topic,and probably there´s no definite answer,-but a newly released book in Sweden,:"The most beautiful gift",-raises this question...
And it has started a heated debate..
But the book points to studies,where test tube children are suffering from this,when they find out the reason for Dad´s abscence.
Inmany cases,children gets shocked and suffers psychological from this.Even suicide attempts have been the result,when the truth came out..
Many Mom´s don´t tell the truth,and when some kids eventually found out,-the shock was even greater....
And when it came to tell the truth,even wrong Men where pointed out as Dad´s...
This phenomena" is even promoted by politicians,as,-Lena Hallongren spoke in the Swedish Parl.6/4,where she said:"It´s not acceptable that women longing for a child should be discriminated by it´s marital status"
discriminated?For being single?
But is insemination the right way to go,even though people are capable of getting a child?Isn´t adoption a better solution?
Are children becoming a "luxury item",-something that can be bought and sold?
A few clicks away,-the person can choose whoever she finds most suitable to become "father",-and who has the best genes...
But everything can be sen from 2 sides,-so who´s right or wrong,is probably hard to tell...
But if surveys show that many children actually suffers psychological,isn´t it about time to question this industry?