is denying same as lying? ( Archived) (12)

May 7, 2011 4:46 AM CST is denying same as lying?
colorblue
colorbluecolorbluedubai, Dubai United Arab Emirates2 Threads 14 Posts
is it?
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May 7, 2011 4:49 AM CST is denying same as lying?
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
colorblue: is it?


dunno ..... that would depend if you are guilty or not.
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May 7, 2011 4:51 AM CST is denying same as lying?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Doesn't that rather depend on what your denying?
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May 7, 2011 4:54 AM CST is denying same as lying?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
well If your boyfriend finds you in bed doing a doggy with his best friend and he ask you :are you cheating on me?
And you deny it then some people will think that your denial is a lie.
Who dare theydoh
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May 7, 2011 4:55 AM CST is denying same as lying?
lavina
lavinalavinaParadise, Indonesia12 Threads 4,755 Posts
Denying
1. To declare not to be true; to gainsay; to contradict; -- opposed to affirm, allow, or admit.

2. To refuse (to do something or to accept something); to reject; to decline; to renounce.

3. To refuse to grant; to withhold; to refuse to gratify or yield to; as, to deny a request.

4. To disclaim connection with, responsibility for, and the like; to refuse to acknowledge; to disown; to abjure; to disavow

lying
noun
dishonesty, perjury, deceit, fabrication, guile, misrepresentation, duplicity, fibbing, double-dealing, prevarication, falsity, mendacity, dissimulation, untruthfulness Lying is something that I will not tolerate.

adjective
deceitful, false, deceiving, treacherous, dishonest, two-faced, double-dealing, dissembling, mendacious, perfidious, untruthful, guileful You lying, cowardly beast!
deceitful straight, frank, reliable, straightforward, sincere, honest, candid, truthful, forthright,

that's form dictinonary meaning professor
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May 7, 2011 4:55 AM CST is denying same as lying?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
If you deny something you have done...that perhaps you should not have done... and in hindsight it was not the correct thing, or did not produce that expected result..


only you know if you are lying about it..


but denying is not always lying... Its often a mechanism used to protect another... sometimes its better to not know..

wave
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May 7, 2011 4:56 AM CST is denying same as lying?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
you mean the doggy?
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May 7, 2011 4:58 AM CST is denying same as lying?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
she could have said the doggy was a medical treatement or said but I closed my eyes and thought I was you
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May 9, 2011 5:33 PM CST is denying same as lying?
IgorFrankensteen
IgorFrankensteenIgorFrankensteenSpringfield, Virginia USA63 Posts
I take it either you, or someone you know, tried to get away with a fake version of reality, and used "denying isn't the same as lying" to try to escape responsibility?


Anything you do with the intention that someone accept as true, something that is not, is deceptive (the same applies for the intention that someone accept as false, something that is true, of course).

Unless you are a performance artist of some kind, and the person you are deceiving expects it as part of the show, then whether you call it lying, dissembling, denying something is true that IS actually true,obfuscating, creative imagining for personal gain, or "telling the REAL truth as I wish it was," (I actually had someone explain why I should LOVE them for their lies, with THAT claptrap), then you might as well call it lying.

It isn't what you CALL it that's important; it's what your intentions are, what you do with it that matters.
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May 9, 2011 5:38 PM CST is denying same as lying?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
In response to: is it?


The def I found says that Denying is a characteristic of lying but the two aren't the same.Lying is the deliberate act of deviating from the truth.
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May 9, 2011 5:52 PM CST is denying same as lying?
DogMaI
DogMaIDogMaISartell, Minnesota USA17 Threads 1 Polls 2,729 Posts
IgorFrankensteen: I take it either you, or someone you know, tried to get away with a fake version of reality, and used "denying isn't the same as lying" to try to escape responsibility?Anything you do with the intention that someone accept as true, something that is not, is deceptive (the same applies for the intention that someone accept as false, something that is true, of course).

Unless you are a performance artist of some kind, and the person you are deceiving expects it as part of the show, then whether you call it lying, dissembling, denying something is true that IS actually true,obfuscating, creative imagining for personal gain, or "telling the REAL truth as I wish it was," (I actually had someone explain why I should LOVE them for their lies, with THAT claptrap), then you might as well call it lying.

It isn't what you CALL it that's important; it's what your intentions are, what you do with it that matters.



I agree... can't be stated any better than that thumbs up
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