The right to self defence (47)

May 21, 2011 8:32 AM CST The right to self defence
howlingwolf: A home owner always had the right to use 'reasonable force' in defence of their person and property but the Home Defence Bill 2010 stepped that up to 'justifiable force' which the Bill says may result in the death of an intruder but it will be a judge and jury that will ultimately decide if the force was justifiable or not. You are not required to retreat anymore and any area of your property close to the home is covered by the Bill. It's not justifing 'Lethal Force' per say but if you turn up in court looking good and the scumbag on the slab or in the hospital has record you will more than likely walk.

What sort of a 'Magnum revolver' were you intending to use Snowlynx? A .357, a .44 or a .22? Sugar77's idea of a 9mm sounds better but not under the pillow. There are about 500 pistol licences in Ireland. You can apply for one in the District Court. Go on a holiday to Prague of Sofia where you can go to a gun club and fire all the calibres so you know what your up against but my advice is get a pit bull.

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A .44 is the business, christ it would stop an elephant.
May 21, 2011 8:47 AM CST The right to self defence
jbomf
jbomfjbomf,,,,,,,,,,,,, Carlow Ireland11 Threads 1 Polls 805 Posts
have any of you ever been in a situation where someone was breaking into your house or already in it, i had one few year back with a junkie trying to get into my garage i fractured his skull, scary going out to him not knowing what he was carrying as it turned out he had a lump hammer in his hand
May 21, 2011 8:50 AM CST The right to self defence
howlingwolf
howlingwolfhowlingwolfWest Cork, Cork Ireland30 Threads 1,218 Posts
snowlynx: A .44 is the business, christ it would stop an elephant.


I'll agree with you there. Do you get many burgling elephants up your way?
May 21, 2011 8:51 AM CST The right to self defence
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
Silentlust: Doesn't seem to have deterred it alot in the States. You'd just need to be aware that there would be TWO of you with guns in the room.

And the advice always given to us was if you shoot him and he falls back out the window, drag him back inside. That't the only way you'll get off on a Justifiable Homicide decision.

Ill keep that in mindlaugh thumbs up
May 21, 2011 8:51 AM CST The right to self defence
jbomf: have any of you ever been in a situation where someone was breaking into your house or already in it, i had one few year back with a junkie trying to get into my garage i fractured his skull, scary going out to him not knowing what he was carrying as it turned out he had a lump hammer in his hand


iv had somebody try to open my window in the middle of the night, i opened the door with my dog on the lead and they werent long running off !!
May 21, 2011 8:52 AM CST The right to self defence
jbomf
jbomfjbomf,,,,,,,,,,,,, Carlow Ireland11 Threads 1 Polls 805 Posts
howlingwolf: I'll agree with you there. Do you get many burgling elephants up your way?
rolling on the floor laughing
May 21, 2011 8:53 AM CST The right to self defence
jbomf
jbomfjbomf,,,,,,,,,,,,, Carlow Ireland11 Threads 1 Polls 805 Posts
ellimere: iv had somebody try to open my window in the middle of the night, i opened the door with my dog on the lead and they werent long running off !!
a dog is great protection most won't chance it
May 21, 2011 8:53 AM CST The right to self defence
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
snowlynx: Yes, those gangsters in Limerick and Dublin would have got what they deserved long ago if that was the case.

Very true
May 21, 2011 8:56 AM CST The right to self defence
jbomf: a dog is great protection most won't chance it


hes a staffordshire bull terrier crossed with an alsation , if i didnt know him i wouldnt chance it ... he has huge jaws and powerful legs !! best thing i ever bought
May 21, 2011 8:59 AM CST The right to self defence
howlingwolf
howlingwolfhowlingwolfWest Cork, Cork Ireland30 Threads 1,218 Posts
ellimere: hes a staffordshire bull terrier crossed with an alsation , if i didnt know him i wouldnt chance it ... he has huge jaws and powerful legs !! best thing i ever bought


I'm terrified just reading about him.
May 21, 2011 9:00 AM CST The right to self defence
salanky
salankysalankydublin, Dublin Ireland90 Threads 1 Polls 9,888 Posts
jbomf: a dog is great protection most won't chance it
we have three that realistically wouldnt touch anyone but the big dog gives the impression he would take your head off till you let a roar at him but he has the desired affect when its needed laugh
May 21, 2011 9:02 AM CST The right to self defence
howlingwolf: I'm terrified just reading about him.


i have a pic up of him , hes a big baby but he will bark if somebody knocks at the door !! our labrador is a big softy hed act as a door stop while the burgler takes off with the tv haha !
May 21, 2011 9:02 AM CST The right to self defence
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
Well i was security guard a few years back for Waterford brewery i had a break in one nite when i was on duty and clubed one with a torch broke it over him the cops weren't to happy with it.dunno
May 21, 2011 9:02 AM CST The right to self defence
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
howlingwolf: Has crime come down in the US? Hadn't heard that. Anyway it's only in a few states you have the right to use lethal force and Obama is pulling gun laws every day.

I meant i think crime would go down here if there was a fear that they would be dropped if they entered our property.
May 21, 2011 9:03 AM CST The right to self defence
jbomf
jbomfjbomf,,,,,,,,,,,,, Carlow Ireland11 Threads 1 Polls 805 Posts
ellimere: hes a staffordshire bull terrier crossed with an alsation , if i didnt know him i wouldnt chance it ... he has huge jaws and powerful legs !! best thing i ever bought
i wouldn't chance a jack russelllaugh
May 21, 2011 9:04 AM CST The right to self defence
jbomf: i wouldn't chance a jack russell


iv one of them too ! i have 4 dogs !! and two cats !!
May 21, 2011 9:05 AM CST The right to self defence
salanky
salankysalankydublin, Dublin Ireland90 Threads 1 Polls 9,888 Posts
jbomf: i wouldn't chance a jack russell
my big dog is half jack russell laugh
May 21, 2011 9:06 AM CST The right to self defence
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
ellimere: i have a pic up of him , hes a big baby but he will bark if somebody knocks at the door !! our labrador is a big softy hed act as a door stop while the burgler takes off with the tv haha !


jaysis me mother as a newfoundland pup the size of him only five months old and hes like a horse.laugh
May 21, 2011 9:07 AM CST The right to self defence
biggles90000: jaysis me mother as a newfoundland pup the size of him only five months old and hes like a horse.


they are gorgous !! id love one !! my lab is 5 months old and hes too big for me ! id never be able to handle a newfoundland
May 21, 2011 9:11 AM CST The right to self defence
jbomf
jbomfjbomf,,,,,,,,,,,,, Carlow Ireland11 Threads 1 Polls 805 Posts
salanky: my big dog is half jack russell


i had one last year it died don't know if il get another
ellimere: iv one of them too ! i have 4 dogs !! and two cats !!
im alergic to cats
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